From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V00 #206 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume00/206 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 00 : Issue 206 Today's Topics: [B7L] Peter Miles [B7L] ch5 Avon? [B7L] Snape as Avon Re: [B7L] Snape as Avon Re: [B7L] A Patriotic Fourth [B7L] Snape as Avon Re: [B7L] Snape as Avon Re: [B7L] A Patriotic Fourth Re: [B7L] aussies Re: [B7L] Re: Together Again Tapes Re: [B7L] Revolutions past Re: [B7L] Peter Miles Re: [B7L] A question about ethics Re: [B7L] aussies Re: [B7L] Re: potential Gareth Thomas sighting Re: [B7L] Re: winspit quarry trip Re: [B7L] aussies Re: [B7L] Revolutions past - so off topic we should be kicked off by now. Re: [B7L] Peter Miles [B7L] Vids for sale Re: [B7L] Re: Together Again Tapes [B7L] Zenith Re: [B7L] Peter Miles Re: [B7L] A Patriotic Fourth Re: [B7L] Peter Miles [B7L] A Patriotic Fourth [B7L] Zenith ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 00:12:18 +0100 From: "Andy Hopkinson" To: "Lysator" Subject: [B7L] Peter Miles Message-ID: <000001bff10d$9f39d6e0$6aea2ac2@andyrh> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > "Secretary Rontaine" is also in that episode (as the Project > > Director). I believe he is also in one of the Dalek episodes (Genesis > > Of The Daleks (?)). In that same ep is one of the Alta's from > > Redemption (she's one of the freedom fighters). > > The actor you're thinking of is Peter Miles, who plays Davros' sidekick > Nyder (pretty much a villain in his own right really) in "Genesis of the > Daleks," and is also Professor Whitaker in "Invasion of the Dinosaurs" as > well as Dr Lawrence in "Silurians." Actually he's been in just about *any* > telefantasy show you care to name, and is apparently still at it. The > actress is Harriett Philpin, playing Bettan, one of the Thals. If you want to know more about Peter Miles, there's an in depth interview and many previously unseen photos in the new Zenith magazine... Available from Judith Proctor's site at http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 and now many SF shops around the UK. (SHAMELESS PLUG) :) Andy. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 01:17:02 GMT From: "Isobel Hamilton" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] ch5 Avon? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I've had another thought which is vaguely out-take related I guess.. something else I missed that I heard was on TV! I don't suppose anyone saw the trailer for Channel 5 (in the UK)'s sci-fi movie season in January I think which apparently had Paul Darrow in Avon gear saying the line 'Avon calling'? Had I known they'd done that I would have sat glued to my TV set watching channel 5 (a sure fate worse than death) just to see it! Isobel -------------------------------------- Dayna: Avon why do you keep everything to yourself? Why so secretive? Avon: Perhaps I'm shy... Powerplay -------------------------------------- ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 18:13:33 -0700 From: Helen Krummenacker To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Snape as Avon Message-ID: <397500BE.4CFB@jps.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Snape reminds me a lot more of Avon > > > than he did before. > > > That must be why I've always found it difficult to dislike Snape in the first > 3 books. (I'd mentioned this before, I think?)Snape dislikes Harry, yet protects him. Hmm, can't imagine what similiarity there could be... btw, anyone get the feeling that Snape's real problem with James Potter is that *he* was in love with Lily, too? Therefore, he scorns Harry for being James' son, but there's a bit of 'could-have-been' involved in protecting him? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 12:08:02 EST From: "J MacQueen" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Snape as Avon Message-ID: <20000719020802.56008.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: Helen Krummenacker > btw, anyone get the feeling that Snape's real problem with James Potter >is that *he* was in love with Lily, too? Therefore, he scorns Harry for >being James' son, but there's a bit of 'could-have-been' involved in >protecting him? Helen, you are reading my mind. Stop it at once, I say! Regards Joanne ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 23:27:37 -0400 From: "Dana Shilling" To: "b7" Subject: Re: [B7L] A Patriotic Fourth Message-ID: <00b001bff132$ebe9f360$66ac4e0c@dshilling> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ika said in rsponse to Ellynne G.: [perhaps they asked the > > Liberator's unknown fashion designer to come up with something but could > > never quite bring themselves to fight under black leather studded with > > silver stars]?). Might have aided recruitment, if our C30 descendants are anything like us > > I went on about this at some length in a paper I wrote a couple of months ago - > how the "Blake's 7" symbol is actually the Federation's symbol with what is > essentially graffiti on it saying, um, "Blake's 7" - so the rebels don't have a > sign of their own. Rebels Without a Flag. Actually I think that they were about 44 minutes before the first taping day and someone said "Oh !@##$% we don't have a logo." Not only didn't they have anyone around the BBC who could speak Spanish, they obviously weren't hip-deep in Jews either--I must say I'm not flattered about the squashed mogen David on the Federation uniforms. -(Y) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 23:07:30 -0600 From: "Ellynne G." To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Snape as Avon Message-ID: <20000718.230733.-98435.0.rilliara@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 19 Jul 2000 12:08:02 EST "J MacQueen" writes: > > > > >From: Helen Krummenacker > > btw, anyone get the feeling that Snape's real problem with James > Potter > >is that *he* was in love with Lily, too? Therefore, he scorns Harry > for > >being James' son, but there's a bit of 'could-have-been' involved > in > >protecting him? > > Helen, you are reading my mind. Stop it at once, I say! > And reading mine, too. [Spoiler alert] It's true, we know what Snape thinks of James but he never mentions Lily. Add the fact Voldemort was originally [from Harry's memories in book 3] willing to spare her when it turns out he could have snuffed her like a candle and there was no way she could stop him. Then [BIG spoiler], we find out Snape was once on you-know-who's side but became a spy for Dumbledore. Skipping the intriguing question of why (although, I have to mention he was one of SIX friends who worked for Voldemort [since Voldemort lacks curly hair, this is an imperfect comparison]). So, did Voldemort, aware of Snape's feelings, try to avoid killing Lily (for those who feel that's too kind of Voldemort, imagine that Voldemort intended to hand her over to Snape who he assumed had highly ungentlemanly intentions and some possible desire to balance old wrongs [being scorned or whatever] or whatever)? But Snape very likely was the spy who warned Dumbledore - meaning Snape had secretly broken with all his old friends and risked his life but the effort was wasted because (in Snape's view) James _wouldn't_ break with his old friends or make similar sacrifices. Snape then learns Lily died because of Sirius (or so everyone believes), the guy he's thought of as a potential murderer since they were sixteen. No wonder he hated Sirius _and_ despised James for trusting him! Oh, and she also died, in part, because of Harry. So, when Hermione tries to make him listen to Sirius and he tells her to shut up and that she doesn't know what she's talking about, he's talking as a guy who has seen what Death Eaters do given half a chance and who thinks he's up against two. In other words, he's rushed into what he considers a desperate, dangerous situation where he could easily get killed to save these kids. THEN, after all these years of trying to atone for his crimes, Snape discovers he still ranks under an escaped murderer in the trust department (although he managed to avoid quoting Avon's lines at the end of Star One when Blake shows up on the bridge). Poor Snape. Avon only had one Blake. Snape has two, Dumbledore and Voldemort. I'm wondering if this makes Avery, Snape's old pal who spent years on the run and who gets tortured by Voldemort, Vila. Oh, but is Snape's nastiness a blind, in case he has to spy for Dumbledore again? B7 connection: Lily as Anna without Rumors (and an Anna who chose the other guy). Avery as Vila. Sirius as Shrinker (in Snape's view)... Oh, and Servalan made a cameo, didn't she? Whew, got that out of my system. Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 15:32:12 EST From: "J MacQueen" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Snape as Avon Message-ID: <20000719053212.32729.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: "Ellynne G." >and Servalan made a cameo, didn't she? Madame Maxime, I hope? I can't and don't want to connect her with Rita Skeeter, the Daily Prophet correspondent. Oh, and one minor character's ancestry has an interesting spelling. Are we meant to pronounce Vila as Veela, after all? No, that's right, that isn't a nice thought. Regards Joanne (who loves the bit where Harry is stuck on a staircase, and Snape recognises the map that insulted him in the previous book) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 04:46:01 +0100 From: "Neil Faulkner" To: "b7" Subject: Re: [B7L] A Patriotic Fourth Message-ID: <00aa01bff137$6d0fa3a0$e535fea9@neilfaulkner> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ellynne G. > I'm very fond of the symbolism behind ours (side issue: political > implications in the various rebellions in B7 having no flag or symbol of > their own [other than Blake]. There's the Emblem of Liberty in Voice From The Past, which as a pink disc would at least be easy to recognise. Neil ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 05:39:49 GMT From: kminne@camtech.net.au (Ken Minne) To: Subject: Re: [B7L] aussies Message-ID: <39753e5c.7128450@mail.camtech.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Good day all, On Sun, 16 Jul 2000 22:19:49 +1000, powerplay@cheerful.com wrote: >KA wrote >*** >least four. >you, me, Joanne, Ross... >I assume Lindley is no longer with us, and hasn't been for a while. >*** >Me too ! From Melbourne (not the Florida one), Victoria, (not the Canada >one), Australia (accept no substitute). > I'll stake a claim for Adelaide, South Australia > > >darren r > Walter Minne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 05:44:54 GMT From: kminne@camtech.net.au (Ken Minne) To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Together Again Tapes Message-ID: <39763f47.7364257@mail.camtech.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Good day all, On Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:21:54 EDT, Joyce wrote: >Isobel said: >> Also I have to add, I got my first 2 Together Again tapes in the mail >> yesterday (Blakes Back and Liberatored) and I must say they are excellent! >> I'm going to have to buy the others now :o) >> >Everyone, please remember that BOTH tapes, Blake's Back and Liberatored, are >available NOW but only until the limited reprint runs out. So if you do not >own these first two tapes of the Together Again series by Sheelagh Wells, >ORDER them TODAY. >Judith Proctor is taking orders for Europe and Australia. And, don't be >fooled if her website still says that Liberatored is OOP, because it isn't. >http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 > >Sheelagh is taking orders for the UK and the USA. For England, it's 8.25 >pounds per tape. For the USA, it's $15 cash or check per tape made out to >Sheelagh J. Wells. The address is 20A New Road, Brentford, Middlesex TW8 >ONX, UK. The cost includes postage. Sheelagh doesn't penalize Americans >for using checks as opposed to cash. The price is the same. > >I absolutely love these first two tapes. They are my favorites of the seven >of them. I urge everyone to order these two tapes NOW. The rest of the five >you can order anytime. But these two are only just back in print and won't >be for long. Every B7 fan should own these first two tapes. Both Sheelagh >and Judith give fast service, and you will be getting your tapes in less >than a month's time. > >Joyce Does anyone know if it is possible to buy these tapes over the counter anywhere, particularly in the United Kingdom? If, so, I will have to take advantage of my parents visiting the UK to get me some of the tapes. If not, well, we will have to see. Thanks, Walter Minne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 04:50:14 +0100 From: "Neil Faulkner" To: "b7" Subject: Re: [B7L] Revolutions past Message-ID: <00ab01bff137$6de0af40$e535fea9@neilfaulkner> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Una McCormack > Not as good a soundbite as your original statement, Neil, but I think that's > something I could agree on. > > Should we issue a communique? Nah, it'll get leaked sooner rather than later. Neil ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 05:10:05 +0100 From: "Neil Faulkner" To: "b7" Subject: Re: [B7L] Peter Miles Message-ID: <00ac01bff137$6eb34180$e535fea9@neilfaulkner> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Andy Hopkinson > If you want to know more about Peter Miles, there's an in depth interview > and many previously unseen photos in the new Zenith magazine... > > Available from Judith Proctor's site at http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 > and now many SF shops around the UK. > > (SHAMELESS PLUG) :) If you don't mind me asking, what was the print run, and how well is it selling? Previous ventures into publishing B7 material haven't exactly fared well, like the Marvel postermag (though I gather the summer specials didn't do too badly). Does this suggest a viable market for a professional zine? Does it also say something about the level of content that people expect before they're prepared to buy? I thought Zenith was rather good, with substance to match its style. Certainly far meatier than your average TV Zone/Dreamwatch though that in itself is hardly much of a compliment. One question I can't help asking, much as I don't want to raise That Topic again - is Zenith the Horizon NL That Never Was? And if so, why was it vetoed? Because I can't see anything in Zenith that couldn't fit quite comfortably in a Horizon newsletter, except possibly the Nickey Barnard/Alan Stevens fiction (which I enjoyed immensely). Neil ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 04:34:35 +0100 From: "Neil Faulkner" To: "b7" Subject: Re: [B7L] A question about ethics Message-ID: <00a901bff137$6c2dcf20$e535fea9@neilfaulkner> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Pat Sumner > Anyway, back to Blakes 7... > I've been reading lots of fan fiction recently, and I was wondering > about my legal position. > I run a small Blakes 7 roleplaying group, with five players, all close > friends. > Would it be unethical or illegal of me to 'recycle' plot ideas from > any of these as adventures for the group? > The adventures are NOT published in any way, for profit or otherwise. > They are ONLY used to keep a small group of idiots (sorry - meant to > say 'people') happy for a few hours each week. > I realise I'm being euphemistic in using the word 'recycle', when I > should say 'plagiarise.' I would say just go ahead and plunder. It's not like you would be ripping anyone off. RPGs regularly recycle well known plots, often transposing them into different genres - Imagine magazine once ran an ADandD scenario that had hordes of goblins threatening a village of helpless peasants, the PCs being hired to save the peasants and drive the goblins away. I think the GM notes suggested that having *seven* PCs might be appropriate... (That's seven as in Magnificent Samurai, not Blakes) I disagree with Trish - there is no need whatsoever to seek permission from the author of the original fanfic. If anyone asked me if they could use the plot from one of my stories for a rolegaming session I'd think they were a total loon. Would you ask the BBC for permission to run a game set in the B7 universe? Of course not, no more than a fan writer does the same when setting out to write fanfic. The only downside is that anyone who's read the same source material might spot the plot and bulldoze through it. Neil ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 15:37:21 +0930 From: "Minnie" To: , "Joanne" Subject: Re: [B7L] aussies Message-ID: <007f01bff149$2b805300$ecaf3acb@marina> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >> >>Melbournites all. >>(except me ) >> >>Min.xxx > >Actually, I'm from Sydney. > >Joanne >-- Oo! thats even further away Min.xxx >‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚ ‚‚‚‚‚ > >Because I love it. It takes me to the stars, to the moon, on any >journey I can imagine. Any place but here ... > >Cyrano de Bergerac > >‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚‚ ‚‚‚‚‚ > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 15:42:06 +0930 From: "Minnie" To: "J MacQueen" , Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: potential Gareth Thomas sighting Message-ID: <008201bff149$2e48e8e0$ecaf3acb@marina> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Joanne wrote: > I know exactly how you feel - I was up and in front >of the television at the right time, only I happened to be trying to fix the >tv channel settings on the video after a family member pressed the wrong >button, and so I missed it. I suppose there's always next weekend - Rage's >video playlists have been looking somewhat similar over the past few >weeks... Glad to hear I wasnt the only doofus. If you hear of anything PLEASE please let me know. :) Min.xxx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 15:36:17 +0930 From: "Minnie" To: "Jessica Taylor" , Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: winspit quarry trip Message-ID: <007e01bff149$2ad87a40$ecaf3acb@marina> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Oh, no magic or secret spy operations then, I must say that I'm a little >disappointed. Oh well, good guess > >Jessica Hahaha. No! Im not a member of the Federation. :) Min.xxx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 15:50:21 +0930 From: "Minnie" To: "Ken Minne" , Subject: Re: [B7L] aussies Message-ID: <008d01bff149$6b3e12c0$ecaf3acb@marina> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >I'll stake a claim for Adelaide, South Australia > >> >> >>darren r >> > > >Walter Minne > Im not alone after all. Yippieeeeeeeee! :) Min.xxx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 08:42:22 +0100 From: "Nyder" To: , Subject: Re: [B7L] Revolutions past - so off topic we should be kicked off by now. Message-ID: <006901bff155$52e95200$bdc628c3@stx.ox.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Gnog wrote: > > control. Blake (with the unwitting help of the Americ...oops Andomedans, Morrigan: > I WARNED the rest of you that if we kept letting Gnog in this country -- > supposedly on "business" -- he'd reveal our true form. Deep down, didn't we all suspect...? Fiona Fiona Moore http://redrival.com/nyder/indexx.html Resist the Host or your Oneness will be Absorbed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 10:20:07 +0200 From: Jacqueline Thijsen To: "Lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] Peter Miles Message-Id: <4.3.1.0.20000719093237.00a76f00@pop3.wish.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 01:12 19-7-00, Andy Hopkinson wrote: >If you want to know more about Peter Miles, there's an in depth interview >and many previously unseen photos in the new Zenith magazine... > >Available from Judith Proctor's site at http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 >and now many SF shops around the UK. > >(SHAMELESS PLUG) :) I'm surprised that's even needed. This is one magazine that's so good it should practically sell itself. I'm not talking about the "if you're a fan you must support this effort" plugging which nearly put me *off* buying it (I always think that if people say we should buy something for reasons other than it being a good product, there's probably something wrong with it). Well, ok, it was the piccie of Brian Chroucher in very tight swimtrunks that first got me interested. Wow baby. And that is my one complaint: why was that picture so small? It deserved to be a full size, fold out pinup. I know that would have meant staples through Brian's tummy, but I believe I could have gotten over that . Other than that one complaint, I could find absolutely nothing to complain about in this entire magazine. And this is coming from a misanthropic, glass three quarters empty whiner, who can usually find fault in just about any magazine. For once I didn't hate the artwork (I'm not a nice person for artists, since I don't really like any picture that isn't a near photographic likeness), but in fact really admired it. That cover drawing of Travis is absolutely beautiful and one of the very few drawings that (in my overly critical eyes) looks better than a photograph. As for contents: it's everything I ever hoped for in a magazine and have never before been able to find: good, interesting and indepth articles, lots of information and most important of all (to me) I've read absolutely everything in it. Most of the time when I buy a magazine, I read only about half or maybe three quarters of the articles, and find the rest too boring to bother with. Not so with Zenith. Everything was eminently readable, and I guess kudos for that go to the authors as well as the editors. I intend to keep Judith's article about her visit to the power station on my lap the next time I see any of the episodes that were taped there. I have one question: where were all the ladies? Even Servalan was mentioned only a few times (although that picture of her in the white dress was quite beautiful) and Jenna and Cally were barely mentioned at all. How about next time (yep, shameless plug, but I'll definitely buy it) you guys put in an interview with Jan Chappell or Sally Knyvette? How's it going with the sales, BTW? Are we nearly at the point where we can expect Zenith #2? If not: everybody buy this! I want a next one! Or I'll huff and I'll puff and I'll... well, go off to sulk, I guess. Jacqueline ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 12:57:14 -0700 From: Steve Rogerson To: Lysator Subject: [B7L] Vids for sale Message-ID: <3976081A.4058CFA0@mcr1.poptel.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A colleague of mine has the following videos for sale. If anyone is interested, contact him directly. His name is Tony Fyler and his email: tony.fyler@rbi.co.uk Doctor Who The Daleks - Two Tapes The Day Of the Daleks The Time Warrior Robot Terror of the Zygons The Talons of Weng-Chiang City of Death Earthshock The Five Doctors The Caves Of Androzani Blake's Seven 1. The Way Back/Spacefall 12. Voices From The Past/Gambit 13. The Keeper/Star One 14. Aftermath/Powerplay 16. The Harvest Of Kairos/City At The Edge Of The World 21. Power/Traitor 22. Stardrive/Animals 24. Warlord/Blake Star Trek : Voyager 2.7 - Dreadnought/Death Wish 3.8 - Coda/Blood Fever -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson "In my world, there are people in chains and you can ride them like ponies" The alternative Willow, Buffy the Vampire Slayer ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 18:42:51 +0100 From: Julia Jones To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Cc: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Together Again Tapes Message-ID: <1NAqKoAbied5EwSd@jajones.demon.co.uk> In message <39763f47.7364257@mail.camtech.net.au>, Ken Minne writes >Does anyone know if it is possible to buy these tapes over the counter >anywhere, particularly in the United Kingdom? You can get them at cons, which is probably not a lot of use to you. If your parents are around for a while, it would also be possible for the tapes to be sent to their UK address to save on postage. But if you have a credit card, or access to US$ or sterling cash, the easiest thing is probably to order them direct from Judith Proctor for postage to Australia. -- Julia Jones "Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!" The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 18:37:32 +0100 From: Julia Jones To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Cc: b7 Subject: [B7L] Zenith Message-ID: In message <00ac01bff137$6eb34180$e535fea9@neilfaulkner>, Neil Faulkner writes >I thought Zenith was rather good, with substance to match its style. >Certainly far meatier than your average TV Zone/Dreamwatch though that in >itself is hardly much of a compliment. Having finally got home to a large pile of post, all of which I'm too tired to LoC just now, I'd agree with the above. I thought Zenith was superb, and had I seen it in a newsagent I would have assumed it was a professionally published magazine. It's a lot better than some of the stuff that is published professionally. Andy, Alan, well done. I just wish I was in a fit state to wibble about it at length, as it deserves. -- Julia Jones "Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!" The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 09:07:29 +0100 From: "Nyder" To: "Andy Hopkinson" , "Lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] Peter Miles Message-ID: <002401bff1d1$7776da80$7cc628c3@stx.ox.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > If you want to know more about Peter Miles, there's an in depth interview > and many previously unseen photos in the new Zenith magazine... > > Available from Judith Proctor's site at http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 > and now many SF shops around the UK. > > (SHAMELESS PLUG) :) Thanks for that, Andy-- I realised after I sent the post that I missed a plugging opportunity, and kicked myself for it. For those who haven't seen it, the interview is a terribly entertaining as well as informative one.... Fiona Fiona Moore http://redrival.com/nyder/indexx.html Resist the Host or your Oneness will be Absorbed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 23:33:12 +0100 From: "Nyder" To: "Neil Faulkner" , "b7" Subject: Re: [B7L] A Patriotic Fourth Message-ID: <002601bff1d1$78cfb3c0$7cc628c3@stx.ox.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Neil Faulkner > From: Ellynne G. > > I'm very fond of the symbolism behind ours (side issue: political > > implications in the various rebellions in B7 having no flag or symbol of > > their own [other than Blake]. > > There's the Emblem of Liberty in Voice From The Past, which as a pink disc > would at least be easy to recognise. But it appears in Voice and would therefore be blocked from the memory in self-defence. Fiona Fiona Moore http://redrival.com/nyder/indexx.html Resist the Host or your Oneness will be Absorbed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 23:30:34 +0100 From: "Nyder" To: "Neil Faulkner" , "b7" Subject: Re: [B7L] Peter Miles Message-ID: <002501bff1d1$78171220$7cc628c3@stx.ox.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Neil Faulkner > vetoed? Because I can't see anything in Zenith that couldn't fit quite > comfortably in a Horizon newsletter, except possibly the Nickey Barnard/Alan > Stevens fiction (which I enjoyed immensely). Now if I recall correctly, Horizon had a policy of not printing anything by anyone who wasn't a member. That means at *least* four of the pieces wouldn't have run in Horizon (including mine), and probably a lot more. Fiona Fiona Moore http://redrival.com/nyder/indexx.html Resist the Host or your Oneness will be Absorbed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 19:00:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "rita d'orac" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] A Patriotic Fourth Message-ID: <383946322.964047615337.JavaMail.root@web307-mc.mail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ellynne G wrote: > I'm very fond of the symbolism behind ours (side issue: political > implications in the various rebellions in B7 having no flag or symbol of > their own [other than Blake]. > There's the Emblem of Liberty in Voice From The Past, which as a pink disc > would at least be easy to recognise. Don't remember seing the emblem, but then I've never managed to watch more than 10 mins of "Voice From the Past" before falling asleep... rita d'orac "If you think of this mouse as a space captain..." http://www.vilaworld.com ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 02:35:45 +0100 From: "Andy Hopkinson" To: "Lysator" , "Neil Faulkner" Subject: [B7L] Zenith Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > If you want to know more about Peter Miles, there's an in depth interview > and many previously unseen photos in the new Zenith magazine... > > Available from Judith Proctor's site at http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 > and now many SF shops around the UK. > > (SHAMELESS PLUG) :) If you don't mind me asking, what was the print run, and how well is it selling? Zenith is selling extraordinarily well, however we need to sell 700 to break even and to ensure that there will be an issue two. We are half way there (and in three weeks that really is something), but there are still quite a number of you who have not yet purchased a copy! (Hint, Hint) >Previous ventures into publishing B7 material haven't exactly fared >well, like the Marvel postermag (though I gather the summer specials didn't >do too badly). Does this suggest a viable market for a professional zine? Zenith isn't a professional magazine, it just looks that way! The poster magazine was selling about 3500 a month. If we could hit a readership like that we would be very happy. >Does it also say something about the level of content that people expect >before they're prepared to buy? Probably. >One question I can't help asking, much as I don't want to raise That Topic again... Are you sure? Pull the other one. >is Zenith the Horizon NL That Never Was? Not entirely. Eight articles are completely new, as quite a number of the articles originally done for H40 are now very dated. Don't forget, H40 was due out in August 1999. Other features were written by Diane, or her friends and so we didn't have the right to use them. These articles later appeared in H39.5. >And if so, why was it vetoed? Because I can't see anything in Zenith that couldn't fit quite comfortably in a Horizon newsletter. Insecurity. >except possibly the Nickey Barnard/Alan Stevens fiction (which I enjoyed immensely). That's interesting. Why do you think Horizon would have rejected it? Alan (who is staying at Andy's home at the moment, not working on H40...) -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V00 Issue #206 **************************************