From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V00 #287 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume00/287 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 00 : Issue 287 Today's Topics: Re: [B7L] ways of keeping orac quiet [ "Neil Faulkner" ] [B7L] Christmas presents [ "Sally Manton" To: "b7" Subject: Re: [B7L] ways of keeping orac quiet Message-ID: <001701c034dd$d18142a0$e535fea9@neilfaulkner> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jacqui Speel Subject: [B7L] ways of keeping orac quiet <3)Polylingual languages Scrabble - words have to mean something in two different languages (my 'invention')> My favourite example of that would be 'gift'. It's German for 'poison'. Neil ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 14:11:23 +0200 From: Natasa Tucev To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: NS Message-Id: <200010131211.OAA22083@Tesla.rcub.bg.ac.yu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Fiona wrote: >>Frankly, I fail to see how the Federation can maintain the vast >>numbers of blackshirts we see *without* NS. > Apart from NS, the Federation may have other means of enlisting troops. Such a huge empire must have a powerful propaganda. If the army is professional, perhaps the people would be tempted to join it if, e.g., they are constantly bombarded with war films (or some far-future equivalent of films. I recall this was the only genre that the cinemas in '1984' showed.) 'Top Gun' style films, demonstrating how cool it is to be a soldier and wear a uniform (although the propaganda would have to be really powerful to persuade you that THIS uniform is cool.) And of course, films in which Heroes in Black Uniforms kill Bad Rebels and save the world. The propaganda could also be used to provoke animosity between the Inner and the Outer Worlds. The inhabitants of the IW, e.g., could be led to believe that they are poverty-stricken because the rebellious OW colonists refuse to trade. This would turn the general discontent in a safe direction, away from the administration, and people would be likely to volunteer for the raids against Bad Colonists. Hunger and redundancy could be another reason for a vast number of people to join the ranks, as the army service would ensure at least the bare necessities for them and their families. Assuming, however, that the lower classes are forced to enlist, either by law or due to poverty, I wonder why Blake doesn't try to stir some kind of rebellion among the common troops. Although I don't have an idea how he would get in touch with them. Natasa ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 22:24:18 EST From: "Jessica Taylor" To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Fantasy Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >Harriet wrote > > > Iain wrote: > > >when I was a little boy with a cute button nose > > >I really wanted to be Doctor Who. > > > > Now I think about it, Iain as Dr Who makes perfect sense... Is this >going > > to turn back into a recasting thread? Steve Rogerson responded: >I wanted to be a companion. Living in the Tardis seemed cool. But then >again, I thought that way >about the Liberator. Never wanted to be Blake or Dr Who though. Just wanted >to be me in those >environments. That's funny, I felt the same way about Star Wars. I remember once getting really depressed one night when I was about seven (after I'd just seen the Return of the Jedi) because I wanted to live in that universe so much. Best Wishes Jessica _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 08:40:24 -0400 (EDT) From: sjk3@cornell.edu To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] ways of keeping orac quiet Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > 3)Polylingual languages Scrabble - words have to mean something in two > different languages (my 'invention') We played a similar version of Scrabble, "no holds barred." Any real word was ok, including proper nouns and foreign words (though being a word in only one language was ok). It led to a roommate turning an E backwards so he could make a word in Russian. Needless to say, nobody came up with a word crossing that vowel! :-) Sandra Kisner sjk3@cornell.edu ------------------------------ Date: 13 Oct 00 17:02:10 PDT From: Jacqui Speel To: Subject: Re: [Re: [B7L] ways of keeping orac quiet] Message-ID: <20001014000210.4467.qmail@www0w.netaddress.usa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Neil Faulkner" wrote: From: Jacqui Speel Subject: [B7L] ways of keeping orac quiet <3)Polylingual languages Scrabble - words have to mean something in two different languages (my 'invention')> My favourite example of that would be 'gift'. It's German for 'poison'. Neil This was used in one of Isaac Asimov's short non-sciencefiction 'puzzle'= stories (set in a club.) There are 'quite' a few others (Rolls Royce Silv= er Mist was another 'classic). ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home= =2Enetscape.com/webmail ------------------------------ Date: 13 Oct 00 17:03:55 PDT From: Jacqui Speel To: Subject: Re: [[B7L] B7 gods] Message-ID: <20001014000355.4602.qmail@www0j.netaddress.usa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Where would Loki (Norse) fit into this: the trickster god? ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home= =2Enetscape.com/webmail ------------------------------ Date: 13 Oct 00 17:06:08 PDT From: Jacqui Speel To: Subject: Re: [[B7L] ways of keeping orac quiet] Message-ID: <20001014000608.9601.qmail@ww156.netaddress.usa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The answers to the non-paradox are 'I am lying' - ie as distinct from sit= ting, standing etc. Je suis: first person singular for both 'etre' (to be) and suivre (to fol= low) ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home= =2Enetscape.com/webmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 20:52:33 -0600 From: "Ellynne G." To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [[B7L] B7 gods] Message-ID: <20001013.205235.-89721.0.rilliara@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 13 Oct 00 17:03:55 PDT Jacqui Speel writes: > Where would Loki (Norse) fit into this: the trickster god? Let's see, Loki was never overly attached to telling the truth, definitely the brains of the Norse pantheon, considered himself neither stupid nor expendable but always wound up going, hung out with a one eyed guy he was destined to bring about the death of, had one extremely evil female type from the enemy interested in him (his wife Angurboda) but also had a fairly long suffering, no idea what she saw in him type from the 'good guys' interested in him (his other wife, Sigyn).... We're talking Avon as avatar instead of an avatar of Avon, right? The only problem is this would seem to make Vila Thor.... (the only problem apart from the fact that Avon wouldn't set up Tarrant - I mean Baldur - to be killed by blind Hoder - uh, I mean Hal Melanby - without a really good reason. And I don't see him as having a snake and wolf for kids [Hela, OTOH, would be Daddy's Little Girl and spoiled rotten]) Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 06:46:14 GMT From: "Sally Manton" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Christmas presents Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Jacqui wrote: 'tis one thing to think of what we'd give Our Heroes (Blake would like a Successful Revolution, Avon wants the Liberator and Dayna would love Servalan's head, but none of these are exactly easy to gift-wrap). But then when one tries to imagine what they would give *each other* the mind starts to boggle quite verily (and, having rewritten A Christmas Carol a la B7, I *know*. I never did think of something for Avon to give Gan, or Tarrant or Soolin to give anyone at all :-)) For the most part, they don't strike me as the very-good-at-choosing-presents-type. I mean Avon *could* give Blake an I-Will-Not-Argue-For Two-Weeks voucher (and Blake could then frame it for his cabin, 'cause no *way* would My Darling ever redeem that one). 'Tis fun to imagine Cally giving them all clothes (given her own ... errr ... interesting taste in this direction) but they've got Zen to supply all they need in that line. Vila would unquestionably (IMHO) be the best at choosing presents, since he's got the imagination and the basic generosity (and wouldn't baulk at buying - err, sorry, I meant acquiring - something silly but fun); Blake also, though I can see him driving himself mad trying to get something meaningful and *just right* for each of them (not that easy with the crew he's got). Gan doesn't strike me as the imaginative type, and would get them all something sensible (socks and hankies all round?) Dayna would mean well, but almost certainly end up buying things *she'd* like and getting tetchy if they didn't like the stuff just as much; Jenna the same (except for Blake, and I think we can all guess what she'd like to give him). Tarrant would buy them all matching logo-ed sweatshirts and hats (to foster that united-crew feeling he's so into) and not understand when Avon promptly stuffs them back down his throat. Soolin, being a supremely practical lass, would give them all gift vouchers, then get enormous fun watching these wanted criminals work out how to redeem them . And Avon, my Avon ... putting aside the joyous picture of him at the local mall during the pre-Christmas frenzy (I'm in Australia, remember; this means manic shopping crowds combined with 40 deg C heat and endless repeats of balalaika Jingle Bells complete with wobble-board and/or digeridoo), I have to say Avon is a definite give-them-money-it's-easier type. The money of course coming from the Treasure Room, and someone else's share if he can manage it :-). _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V00 Issue #287 **************************************