From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V99 #197 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume99/197 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 197 Today's Topics: Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers Re: [B7L] Netiquette Fwd: Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) Re: [B7L] Netiquette RE: [B7L] Netiquette RE: [B7L] A silly Star Trek Crossover for the amusement of the li st Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) RE: [B7L] A silly Star Trek Crossover for the amusement of the li st Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) Re: [B7L] A silly Star Trek Crossover for the amusement of the list [B7L] avenging angels Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) [B7L] Love and Hairstyling -- A Drabble [B7L] US cons [B7L] Moon cycles [B7L] Re: SC: US cons Re: [B7L] Love and Hairstyling -- A Drabble Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers [B7L] A Few Zines for Sale Re: [B7L] Re: SC: US cons Re: [B7L] Netiquette Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) Re: [B7L] US cons Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers Re: [B7L] A silly Star Trek Crossover for the amusement of the list Fwd: Re: [B7L] [B7L] Re: A Xover Question Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) Re: [B7L] avenging angels ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 04:11:20 EDT From: AdamWho@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) Message-ID: <149d5d08.249f4da8@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 99-06-21 00:01:53 EDT, jomacqueen@yahoo.com writes: << Such selfishness. Adric was a bit difficult to love before, let alone after. Doesn't Adam get a better offer? Harry Sullivan perhaps (not that I'm expecting that one to be warmly received either...) >> Harry? No thanks. After Jenna vaporizes him for calling her "bird" and "chick" three dozen times, I would enjoy seeing the charred remains. I will take Leela, Romana 2, or the air hostess with a voice which never bothered me, Tegan. Not only could she stand up to the Doctor when she needed to, she was the only Fifth Doctor companion (OK, Nyssa sometimes) who didn't cause dry heaves. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 18:04:40 +0100 From: "David A McIntee" To: "Calle Dybedahl" , "lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) Message-Id: <199906210829.JAA12705@gnasher.sol.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I've recently developed this overwhelming desire to rewrite the > > scripts for the first couple of Who stories, replacing Ian and > > Barbara with... Well, two totally unexpected characters, who I won't > > name in case it inspired someone else to do it! (Not B7 characters, > > before you ask) > > Xena and Gabrielle? Far worse ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 18:08:16 +0100 From: "David A McIntee" To: "Kathryn Andersen" , "Blake's 7 list" Subject: Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers Message-Id: <199906210829.JAA12716@gnasher.sol.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ---------- > From: Kathryn Andersen > To take some examples... > - Doctor Who is readily crossable because he can travel anywhere in > time and space, and occassionally jumps universes. Thoroughly compatible, and very nearly done on screen a couple of times. > - Star Trek and Blake's 7 are incompatible (different histories) Not necessarily. B7 is at least set in the 28th century - plenty of time for the Federation to go bad, and various other bits of background history to happen. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:41:48 +0100 From: "Una McCormack" To: "lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] Netiquette Message-ID: <006801bebbc3$20d66190$0c01a8c0@hedge> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Penny 'Tmesis' Dreadful wrote: > Also bad spelling, egregious apostrophe misuse, failure to appreciate > Travis II, odd quoting styles, false syllogisms, questionable political > stances, any implication that the sender is sitting at the keyboard wearing > nothing but black socks and a Federation trooper's mask, any ink other than > black or blue-black on unlined white stationery, any mention of Robbie > Coltrane in leather trousers, any reference to the M*y*rs-Br*ggs > personality test, Whovianism, Buffy-baiting, Xenaphelia, failure to > appreciate Travis II, repetitiousness, pretentiousness, flippancy, inanity, > drool, and fake names. And any mention at all of 'Blake's 7'. Did I say that out loud? Una ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 01:58:38 PDT From: Sally Manton To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Fwd: Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) Message-ID: <19990621085841.45651.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Joanne wrote: expecting that one to be warmly received either...)Speaking of which, how long would it be before Harry >found himself being forceably escorted to the airlock by Avon, or Soolin, or even Tarrant?> Tarrant - two hours, tops. Soolin - one. Avon - fifteen minutes if he was lucky. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:21:14 +0100 From: "Una McCormack" To: "lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) Message-ID: <001e01bebbc7$6b648b70$0c01a8c0@hedge> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David A McIntee wrote: > > I've recently developed this overwhelming desire to rewrite the > > > scripts for the first couple of Who stories, replacing Ian and > > > Barbara with... Well, two totally unexpected characters, who I won't > > > name in case it inspired someone else to do it! (Not B7 characters, > > > before you ask) > > > > Xena and Gabrielle? > > Far worse Tom and Jerry. Una ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 02:34:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Borg To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Netiquette Message-ID: <19990621093401.29121.rocketmail@web602.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit --- Penny Dreadful wrote: > At 02:37 PM 6/20/99 +0100, Julia Jones wrote: > > >It would be nice if it rejected upside down posting > and overly long sigs > >as well, but that's probably too much to ask. > > Also bad spelling, egregious apostrophe misuse, > failure to appreciate [SNIP] > appreciate Travis II, repetitiousness, > pretentiousness, flippancy, inanity, > drool, and fake names. > > --Penny "Particularly Ones With Silly Snippets > Inserted In The Middle Of > Them" Dreadful Not to mention gratuitous "me too" posts. Peter. === -- Peter Borg peter_borg@yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 12:36:21 +0200 From: Jacqueline Thijsen To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: RE: [B7L] Netiquette Message-ID: <39DCDDFD014ED21185C300104BB3F99F10FBF8@NL-ARN-MAIL01> Content-Type: text/plain Peter Borg wrote: > --- Penny Dreadful wrote: > > At 02:37 PM 6/20/99 +0100, Julia Jones wrote: > > > > >It would be nice if it rejected upside down posting > > and overly long sigs > > >as well, but that's probably too much to ask. > > > > Also bad spelling, egregious apostrophe misuse, > > failure to appreciate > [SNIP] > > appreciate Travis II, repetitiousness, > > pretentiousness, flippancy, inanity, > > drool, and fake names. > > > > --Penny "Particularly Ones With Silly Snippets > > Inserted In The Middle Of > > Them" Dreadful > > Not to mention gratuitous "me too" posts. > Me too (sorry, couldn't resist) Jacqueline ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:07:57 +0200 From: Jacqueline Thijsen To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: RE: [B7L] A silly Star Trek Crossover for the amusement of the li st Message-ID: <39DCDDFD014ED21185C300104BB3F99F10FBF9@NL-ARN-MAIL01> Content-Type: text/plain Thank you very much indeed, I'll be giggling inanely all day long now. I haven't seen the original, so does anyone have an adress for that one? Did Zaphod Beeblebrox meet Servalan? If he did, I'm sure there were fireworks, although I'm not sure which kind. > Gan Vs any Red Shirt > Gan can't kill, and the Red Shirt can't survive. > Ah, the old instoppable force vs immovable object idea. Or something... Oh, what the hell, just kill 'em both. Jacqueline ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 04:32:31 PDT From: Sally Manton To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) Message-ID: <19990621113235.52352.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Neil wrote: I see the landscape, but don't tend to concentrate very hard on it (this is someone who can suspend disbelief all the way to Cygnus Alpha if she wants to). That's part of the problem. They *do* belong in the B7 universe, I accept them there and *don't* have to think too hard about the backdrop. Put them in a crossover, and the background starts assuming more importance than I want it to. If that's appalling lightweight and frivolous of me, I’m sorry (but not very ) Judith wrote: Diary of a Nobody? Neil, Neil, where do I order? When can I order? That's one of the books I'd rescue if my house was burning down... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:45:15 +0200 From: Jacqueline Thijsen To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: RE: [B7L] A silly Star Trek Crossover for the amusement of the li st Message-ID: <39DCDDFD014ED21185C300104BB3F99F10FBFA@NL-ARN-MAIL01> Content-Type: text/plain I wrote: > Thank you very much indeed, I'll be giggling inanely all day long now. I > haven't seen the original, so does anyone have an adress for that one? Did > Zaphod Beeblebrox meet Servalan? If he did, I'm sure there were fireworks, > although I'm not sure which kind. > And then looked at the original message again and discovered that it specifically stated that B7 was *not* in that crossover. I will read what I'm replying to, I will read what I'm replying to..... Oh well, nothing for it but to write my own story where Zaphod meets Servalan. Or has someone else already done this? Jacqueline ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 00:46:32 -0700 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 List Subject: Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers Message-ID: <376DEDD7.D65E1D0C@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Neil Faulkner wrote: > I think the multiverse idea can only really work - and retain consistency > with the original source - if the multiverse concept is already there in > that source. With B7, it isn't. ???????? Not to argue -- *really* -- but isn't that a bit like saying you can't have a round world if people believe it's flat? Having a multiverse doesn't imply that people in each universe *know* that there is a multiverse. Apart from that, just because something hasn't been mentioned in the show doesn't mean it's unknown within its universe. Aren't you the one who's always saying that fanfic should tell us more than what's inherent in the series? > I don't think I could take a serious crossover of B7 with -anything-. At > least, I could never take it seriously. A non-serious one is another matter > entirely. This whole thread has been fascinating -- previously I've only known that I like some crossovers and not others, but could never have said why. I think for me it boils down to tone; I prefer the silly ones to be silly and the serious ones to be tonally matched and at least as plausible as the series are; and I do like the 'fish out of water' or 'through the looking-glass' style as well, as long as the characters *realize* that something's wrong. ("Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore.") Generally I don't like multiverse unless it's Dr. Who; I prefer merged universes. (I don't like Trek/B7 under any circumstances, because I think the tones don't match at all -- except I've been wanting to read the DS9 one that presents the B7 characters as legendary Bajoran heroes; I can see how that might work.) B7 has both darkness and humor, so I think it lends itself well to crossovers of both types; it has that in common with Buffy; as I can suspend disbelief for each of them separately, I have no trouble thinking of the B7 universe as a future version of the Buffy universe. Fun thread. Thanks everybody. Mistral -- Avon: I am not your dad! Vila: Avon's right, Willow. He's not your dad, I am. Avon's your mum. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 01:26:07 -0700 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 List Subject: Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) Message-ID: <376DF71E.D0BF55D1@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit AdamWho@aol.com wrote: > Blake: Who left a package in the recreation room? > Vila (opening the package): It's a carton of....what are they called? > Avon: Jelly babies. > Blake: Here's a note. 'From one curly-haired rebel to another. Enjoy. My > gratitude is matched only by my lifespan. The Doctor' > Jenna: Told you he was doing cartwheels. Adam, you've bought into that 'Avon is the Doctor's nephew' theory, haven't you? Must be where he gets that legendary sweet tooth. Jelly babies, indeed! Mistral -- "And for my next trick, I shall swallow my other foot."--Vila ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 01:04:20 -0700 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 List Subject: Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) Message-ID: <376DF203.1F429258@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Adam and Joanne wrote: > >Since > > Sarah knew a lot about coping with stormy > > personalities, she might even get along with Avon. > > Tolerated, maybe. Being a journalist, she'd want to > ask a hell of lot of questions, and our dear Avvy > doesn't have that high a patience threshhold for that > sort of thing. Depends on the type and tone of questions, IMHO. Journalistic and antagonistic questions, not. Sincere interest in his work and opinions is not only tolerated but appreciated; he can be a bit of a pedant, and more easily flattered than he'd like to admit. Grins, Mistral -- "If you didn't want the answer, you shouldn't have asked the question."--Avon (Mistral withdraws strategically.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 12:45:21 +0100 From: "Jenni-Alison" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) Message-Id: <199906211157.NAA22379@samantha.lysator.liu.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DM wrote: > > I've recently developed this overwhelming desire to rewrite the > > > scripts for the first couple of Who stories, replacing Ian and > > > Barbara with... Well, two totally unexpected characters, who I won't > > > name in case it inspired someone else to do it! (Not B7 characters, > > > before you ask) > > > > Xena and Gabrielle? > > Far worse Bill and Ted? Beavis and Butthead? or even Bill and Ben, the Flowerpot men? Jenni (Today's message was sponsored by the letter B) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:34:59 -0400 (EDT) From: sjk3@cornell.edu To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] A silly Star Trek Crossover for the amusement of the list Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Walter Minne suggests: > Data Vs Orac > Our trusting fools from the big E, steal a tarriel cell to analyse the > technology, so Geordie wires Data up to it. Hello Orac. Just what they would do (though how, I don't know). > Gan Vs any Red Shirt > Gan can't kill, and the Red Shirt can't survive. A very interesting premise! Get Schro:dinger to build them a box? Sandra Kisner sjk3@cornell.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:52:58 +0100 From: "Alison Page" To: "lysator" Subject: [B7L] avenging angels Message-ID: <012301bebbf5$f49a7f20$ca8edec2@pre-installedco> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh, they are playing my favourite B7 song on the radio again. 'Avenging angels' by Space. Please listen to it if you get the chance. It's not the best song in the world by any means, but it is just so evocative to me. 'calling all avenging angels angels kick-ass angels' I simply can not listen to it without seeing Vila and Avon materialising in silver suits, back to back, with their weapons at the ready. Looking so serious and 'we mean business'. Sigh. Alison ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:25:55 +0100 From: "Alison Page" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) Message-ID: <012101bebbf5$ecd02c40$ca8edec2@pre-installedco> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sally said - >Diary of a Nobody? Neil, Neil, where do I order? When can I order? That's one of the books I'd rescue if my house was burning down...< Yes, read it. it's a really funny parody. Alison ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:20:43 +0100 From: "Neil Faulkner" To: "lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) Message-ID: <006e01bebbfb$d7471d60$21488cd4@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +ADw-I've recently developed this overwhelming desire to rewrite the scripts for the first couple of Who stories, replacing Ian and Barbara with... Well, two totally unexpected characters, who I won't name in case it inspired someone else to do it+ACE- (Not B7 characters, before you ask)+AD4- +AD4-Xena and Gabrielle? +AD4-Far worse +AD4-Bill and Ted? +AD4-Beavis and Butthead? +AD4-or even +AD4-Bill and Ben, the Flowerpot men? Or even ..... Edward and Sophie... Neil (Can I have a Mars bar if I've guessed right? Just wondered...) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:29:05 +0100 From: "Neil Faulkner" To: "lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers Message-ID: <006f01bebbfb$d842e280$21488cd4@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mistral wrote +AD4-Neil Faulkner wrote: +AD4- +AD4APg- I think the multiverse idea can only really work - and retain consistency +AD4APg- with the original source - if the multiverse concept is already there in +AD4APg- that source. With B7, it isn't. +AD4- +AD4-???????? +AD4- +AD4-Not to argue -- +ACo-really+ACo- -- but isn't that a bit like saying you +AD4-can't have a round world if people believe it's flat? Having a +AD4-multiverse doesn't imply that people in each universe +ACo-know+ACo- +AD4-that there is a multiverse. I suspect it ultimately boils down to personal preferences. Either you like multiverses, or you don't. Personally, I don't very much. +AD4- +AD4-Apart from that, just because something hasn't been mentioned +AD4-in the show doesn't mean it's unknown within its universe. Aren't +AD4-you the one who's always saying that fanfic should tell us more +AD4-than what's inherent in the series? In Tolienesque terms, adding extra universes to that in B7 is a bit like planting more trees before you've studied all the leaves on the original. I would rather map roughly-charted territory in more detail than venture out into a whole new great unknown. +AD4-B7 has both darkness and humor, so I think it lends itself well +AD4-to crossovers of both types+ADs- it has that in common with Buffy+ADs- +AD4-as I can suspend disbelief for each of them separately, I have +AD4-no trouble thinking of the B7 universe as a future version of +AD4-the Buffy universe. I have enough trouble thinking of B7 as a plausible future of the real universe, let alone another fictional one. Neil ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:33:14 +0100 From: "Neil Faulkner" To: "lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) Message-ID: <007001bebbfb$d95eb2c0$21488cd4@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sally wrote: Diary of a Nobody? Neil, Neil, where do I order? When can I order? That's one of the books I'd rescue if my house was burning down... It should be out in the next four to six weeks. I'll announce it on the list (with prices and stuff) when it's ready. Other contributors include Marian Mendez, Christine Lacey, Jenni-Alison and a -brilliant- piece by Nickey Barnard. Nothing by me, though. Neil ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:26:57 -0600 From: kmwilcox@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (K. Michael Wilcox) To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) Message-Id: <199906211623.SAA06901@samantha.lysator.liu.se> David McIntee wrote: > Calle Dybedahl wrote: > > "David A McIntee" writes: > > > I've recently developed this overwhelming desire to rewrite the > > > scripts for the first couple of Who stories, replacing Ian and > > > Barbara with... Well, two totally unexpected characters, who I won't > > > name in case it inspired someone else to do it! (Not B7 characters, > > > before you ask) > > Xena and Gabrielle? > Far worse. Mr Humphries and Mrs Slocombe? Richard Fish and Ling? Hugo and Alice Horton? Dilbert and Dogbert? Frank Burns and Margaret Houlihan? Jar Jar Binks and Boss Nass? Maxwell Smart and 99? [Nah, that'd actually be neat.] Josef and Maria Tura? [No, so would that, especially the original.] Stan Marsh and Wendy Testaburger? Patty and Selma Bouvier? Greg and Marcia Brady? The Tick and Arthur? Pip and Jane Baker? K. M. Wilcox Oh, wait, silly me. Of course it's Dangermouse and Penfold! [ObB7: Who'd be willing to put any of these on the Liberator (pre-Terminal)?] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:34:18 -0600 From: kmwilcox@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (K. Michael Wilcox) To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Love and Hairstyling -- A Drabble Message-Id: <199906211630.SAA07555@samantha.lysator.liu.se> Love and Hairstyling Set after "Warlord" "Zeeona's dead," Tarrant told the others. Avon nodded. "It's for the best." "Best?" Dayna asked. "How? For whom?" "Me, for one," Avon said. "She looked like an old woman's poodle." Dayna and Tarrant gasped, and Soolin nearly choked on her drink. "That's how they wear their hair on Betafarl," she said eventually. "That is no excuse. I couldn't look at her without wanting to offer her some kibble." Tarrant barked out a laugh. "Now Avon counsels on unattractive lovers? How soon he forgets." Avon clenched his fists. "For the last time, I was drunk!" "Yeah, we both were," Vila added. --- A drabble is a work of exactly 100 words (not counting title). Drabble Tracker: 176 total; 5 B7 This and other B7 drabbles are at http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~kmwilcox/Blake K. M. Wilcox This was inspired by pics recently added to Lisa's frame capture library. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 18:34:08 +0100 From: Steve Rogerson To: Space City , Lysator Subject: [B7L] US cons Message-ID: <376E778F.6E4B7E97@mcr1.poptel.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yippee, I've now got enough airmiles to go to a US con (but only between November and March, when you go further for less). Any suggestions about which one I should go to? -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson "What is it with you and holes?" Xena to Gabrielle, Paradise Found ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 18:46:43 +0100 From: Steve Rogerson To: Space City , Lysator , buffyb7 Subject: [B7L] Moon cycles Message-ID: <376E7A82.417CE2A2@mcr1.poptel.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you to all who responded to this. It was phases of the moon I was after, and this has helped - no full moon during the two weeks, so Oz is fully active, and a nice dark, no moon night early in the two weeks. Plus the lovely mystical addition of a first crescent on the solstice (or as near as dammit) ? it was established in the first ever Buffy episode that first crescents are significant at the Hellmouth. What astounded me though was this knowledge that moon phases are the same the world over. I'd never really thought about it but just assumed, cos it is all about angles as to how much of it you see lit up at one time, it would vary depending on where the observer was on earth. -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson "What is it with you and holes?" Xena to Gabrielle, Paradise Found ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 12:54:47 -0500 From: Beth Friedman To: Space City , Lysator Subject: [B7L] Re: SC: US cons Message-Id: <4.1.19990621125319.009e3da0@pop3.visi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:34 PM 6/21/99 +0100, Steve Rogerson wrote: >Yippee, I've now got enough airmiles to go to a US con (but only >between >November and March, when you go further for less). Any suggestions >about >which one I should go to? Do you mean an SF convention or a media convention? If the first, I'd suggest Boskone in February; if the latter, Visions in late November. -- "UNIX is user friendly. It's just selective about who its friends are." Beth Friedman bjf@wavefront.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 18:52:23 +0100 From: "Una McCormack" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Love and Hairstyling -- A Drabble Message-ID: <007101bebc0f$1a665d00$0c01a8c0@hedge> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit K. Michael Wilcox wrote: > Love and Hairstyling > Set after "Warlord" Kudos! Una ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 18:53:54 +0100 From: "Una McCormack" To: "lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) Message-ID: <007401bebc0f$1c4f6850$0c01a8c0@hedge> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Neil wrote: +AD4- +ADw-I've recently developed this overwhelming desire to rewrite the +AD4- scripts for the first couple of Who stories, replacing Ian and +AD4- Barbara with... Well, two totally unexpected characters, who I won't +AD4- name in case it inspired someone else to do it+ACE- (Not B7 characters, +AD4- before you ask)+AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4-Xena and Gabrielle? +AD4- +AD4- +AD4-Far worse +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4-Bill and Ted? +AD4- +AD4- +AD4-Beavis and Butthead? +AD4- +AD4- +AD4-or even +AD4- +AD4-Bill and Ben, the Flowerpot men? +AD4- +AD4- Or even ..... Edward and Sophie... +AD4- +AD4- Neil AAAAAARGHGGHGHGHGHGH nnnnnnnngggggg +ADw-urk+AD4- Una ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:41:07 -0400 From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com> To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" Subject: Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers Message-ID: <199906211441_MC2-7A36-272F@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Joanne, a member of the alarmingly large Sarah Jane fan club, wrote: >Being a journalist, she'd want to ask a hell of lot of questions I didn't think she was a very good journalist. Did she ever file any copy? Or ring in to explain to the news editor that she'd just popped off to the other side of the galaxy but she'd be back before she set off so he needn't tear his hair out because she'd write her 1,000 words on the way back? I'm an Ace fan, but looking back I find myself very fond of Jo, who is now generally reviled. I thought she was another of those "persevering in the face of being scared" types, and with lovely eyes to boot. Can't picture her legs at the moment, but I'm sure she'd get on with Vila. And she did seem to be doing the job she was paid for. Harriet ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:05:40 -0500 From: "Lorna B." To: Subject: [B7L] A Few Zines for Sale Message-Id: <199906212013.PAA12121@pemberton.magnolia.net> While at MediaWestCon, I picked up a couple of used zines. I already have copies of all of them (and, indeed, I originally published one of them), but these were in good shape and reasonably priced, so I thought I'd grab them and offer them for sale to online readers who likely don't get to many cons. They're all gen, BTW. All the prices include US priority mail postage. If you buy more than one, I'll need to refigure the postage if it goes over 3 pounds of weight, so be patient. :-) I'm afraid I won't be able to take non-US funds, and shipping them outside the US would obviously be more expensive--probably lots more expensive. :-( 1. Roads Not Taken. Excellent condition. 20 stories, 245 pp., reduced type, comb binding. Stories that branch off from televised episodes, mixture of regular characters. Authors include J. Graham, P. Hartsook, C. McCoy, A. Aldridge (part 1 of her excellent Jenna-Travis epic), R. Brothers, lots of others. $14.00, including postage. 2. Roads Not Taken (yeah, I bought 2!). Excellent condition, except pp. 229 & 230 have a lower corner of text torn off. I will give you an unblemished copy of that page, though I won't be able to bind it into the zine. $13.00, including postage. 3. Zen & the Art of Rebellion 1. Out of print, and to my understanding not likely to ever be reprinted. Good condition. 10 stories, 135 pp., comb binding. Mix of characters, emphasis on Vila, Tarrant, some Travis. Authors include T. Ward, C. McCoy, L. Breshears, L. Moto'oka, others. $8.00, including postage. 4. Delta Blues. Also out of print and unlikely to be reprinted. Excellent condition. 4 stories, 76 pages, comb binding. The Vila zine! The cover of Our Hero by Phoenix is to-die-for. Authors are...well, mostly me, with some filks and humor by Jane Mailander. $9.00, including postage. Please email me privately if you're interested in any of these. Thanks! Lorna B. "Cookies and porn? You're the best mom ever!" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:16:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kim F. Holec" To: Beth Friedman cc: Space City , Lysator Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: SC: US cons Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Last I heard, Visions wasn't on this year. Sigh. If it is, somebody please tell me differently. I haven't been to their web page in ages. For a good listing of conventions, try this link: http://sflovers.rutgers.edu/archive/Web/cons.html For a good start page for SF links, go here: http://www.wsfa.org/SFLINKS.HTM Good luck, Kim On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Beth Friedman wrote: > At 06:34 PM 6/21/99 +0100, Steve Rogerson wrote: > >Yippee, I've now got enough airmiles to go to a US con (but only > >between > >November and March, when you go further for less). Any suggestions > >about > >which one I should go to? > > Do you mean an SF convention or a media convention? If the first, I'd > suggest Boskone in February; if the latter, Visions in late November. > > -- > "UNIX is user friendly. It's just selective about who its friends are." > Beth Friedman > bjf@wavefront.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:20:48 +0100 From: Julia Jones To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Cc: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Netiquette Message-ID: In message <4.1.19990620221807.009836a0@mail.geocities.com>, Penny Dreadful writes >any ink other than >black or blue-black on unlined white stationery Ah, but that one's under the control of the reader, not the sender. If I feel like having lurid pink on fluorescent blue, I can set my software to so do:-) -- Julia Jones "Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!" The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 14:35:07 -0600 From: "Ellynne G." To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers Message-ID: <19990516.143508.9958.1.Rilliara@juno.com> On Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:41:07 -0400 Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com> writes: >Joanne, a member of the alarmingly large Sarah Jane fan club, wrote: >>Being a journalist, she'd want to ask a hell of lot of questions > >I didn't think she was a very good journalist. Did she ever file any >copy? > Or ring in to explain to the news editor that she'd just popped off >to the >other side of the galaxy but she'd be back before she set off so he >needn't >tear his hair out because she'd write her 1,000 words on the way back? > Unless the boss was exceptionally mellow, I wouldn't leave messages like this myself. Ellynne ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 14:28:49 -0600 From: "Ellynne G." To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) Message-ID: <19990516.143508.9958.0.Rilliara@juno.com> >David McIntee wrote: >> Calle Dybedahl wrote: >> > "David A McIntee" writes: >> > > I've recently developed this overwhelming desire to rewrite the >> > > scripts for the first couple of Who stories, replacing Ian and >> > > Barbara with... Well, two totally unexpected characters, who I >won't >> > > name in case it inspired someone else to do it! (Not B7 >characters, >> > > before you ask) > >> > Xena and Gabrielle? > >> Far worse. > Avon's Mum and Dad, Morticia and Gomez? Ellynne ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:32:45 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: Re: [B7L] US cons Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Mon 21 Jun, Steve Rogerson wrote: > Yippee, I've now got enough airmiles to go to a US con (but only between > November and March, when you go further for less). Any suggestions about > which one I should go to? Eccelcticon. No guests. Lots of interesting debates. A few UK fans who travel over and a fair number of US B7 fans whom you'll know. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.nas.com/~lknight) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:05:30 -0700 (PDT) From: J MacQueen To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers Message-ID: <19990621230530.23375.rocketmail@web905.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit --- Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com> wrote: > Joanne, a member of the alarmingly large Sarah Jane > fan club, Well, it's the fault of the ABC. If it hadn't kept repeating Tom Baker stories (mostly) during an impressionable period (late childhood-early adolescence), I wouldn't have bothered about the character. I like Leela and the second Romana as well, for much the same reason. I only wish the ABC had repeated Blake's 7 as much as Doctor Who - I wouldn't have needed, as I did some months back, to enquire who this Carnell person was. It's fair enough what you say about Sarah's profession, but then I've never been able to convince myself that certain characters had any degree of competence in their given professions. Mel Bush is one of them. She always gave me the impression that I knew more about computers than she did, and I know close to damn all Avon would sneer at her, but there are very few he wouldn't sneer at, if the fancy took him. I'm afraid Jo Grant, secret agent, is another example. (Not that I dislike Jo - John Pertwee's era got its fair share of repeats on the ABC as well.) > I'm an Ace fan, Not as fond of her as I was (at the time, the character was about my age), probably as I began to think that the character was declining. Not into another screamer, but into neurosis of the week. I suggested once, to the amusement of my brother, that if the character had come back for another series, the Doctor would've taken her to Metabelis 3 because she had arachnophobia. And I agree that Vila would've rather taken with Jo. Regards Joanne _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:16:48 -0700 From: kalazar To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] A silly Star Trek Crossover for the amusement of the list Message-ID: <376EC7E0.CE80A63B@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jacqueline Thijsen wrote > Oh well, nothing for it but to write my own story where Zaphod meets > Servalan. Or has someone else already done this? There's a short story in SOUTHERN 7 #8 called "PROBABILITY FACTOR" that has Servalan as Zaphod" "third favorite twin sister". And I seems to remember another story where the B7 crew meet up with Arthur and Ford. Avon lusts after Zaphod's sun(Don't Panic) glasses. And I think there's another story involving Marvin. Anyone know the titles? Kalazar ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:09:25 -0700 (PDT) From: J MacQueen To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Fwd: Re: [B7L] Message-ID: <19990621230925.19919.rocketmail@web904.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Adam, if this wasn't meant for the list, I apologise. But I like the idea of Leela giving fashion tips to Dayna, and I'm sure there are others who would too! --- AdamWho@aol.com wrote: > From: AdamWho@aol.com > Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 04:34:12 EDT > Subject: Re: [B7L] > To: jomacqueen@yahoo.com > > In a message dated 99-06-20 19:53:12 EDT, J Macqueen > writes: > > << Ahem, you don't think Leela's dangerous enough > already? >> > > At the very least Leela could give Dayna good > wardrobe advice. Compare > Dayna's repetitive one-shoulder horrors to how > gorgeous Leela looks in the > white outfit she occasionally wore. > > B7\DW crossovers I choose: > > Vila and Jamie, both getting completely drunk and > sarcastically commenting on > their fellow crew members, the Doctor, etc. > > Servalan, with the Fourth Doctor and Romana 2 > generally annoying the hell out > of her. > > Bayban and Peri, so he can finish the job Doctor #6 > started in The Twin > Dilemma . > > Orac and K9 > > Travis and Blake united in a desperate mission, to > rid the cosmos of the most > irritating, wildly over the top creature ever > created: Anthony Ainley's > version of the Master. > > Zoe, cross at Cally. "You're a female companion. > Female companions are > supposed to scream a lot and wear tight outfits." > Tired of her shrieking, > Cally finally agrees and digs her gold lame catsuit > (with "Auron or Bust" > written across the chest area) out of mothballs. > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:23:18 -0700 From: kalazar To: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: [B7L] Re: A Xover Question Message-ID: <376EC966.86F92BA7@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just reread "FLIGHTS" by Linda Terrell a B7/Pern crossover. It's a very believable story. My question is: I think I remember reading other stories in this Xover. Does anyone know of any others? Thanks. Kalazar ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:22:20 -0700 (PDT) From: J MacQueen To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) Message-ID: <19990621232220.26500.rocketmail@web905.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit --- mistral@ptinet.net wrote: > Depends on the type and tone of questions, IMHO. > Journalistic and antagonistic questions, not. > Sincere interest in his work and opinions is not > only tolerated but appreciated; Argh! You've just conjured up an image of Sarah Jane, having been taken over by another example of the Lost, approaching him to ask which were the detectors because she was interested in his work...and the Decimas represent the Lollipop Guild... I think it's time to do some work. If typing indexes for torts isn't serious enough, nothing is Regards Joanne _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 17:05:21 -0700 From: "LaughingRain" To: "b7" Subject: Re: [B7L] Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin #45 - Part 1 of 6) Message-ID: <008201bebc44$e16d7e80$58b5fcd1@behemoth> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How about Bill and Monica? Peace, Penny -----Original Message----- From: Una McCormack +ADw-una+AEA-q-research.connectfree.co.uk+AD4- To: lysator +ADw-blakes7+AEA-lysator.liu.se+AD4- Date: Monday, June 21, 1999 11:01 AM Subject: Re: +AFs-B7L+AF0- Potential crossovers (was Flat Robin +ACM-45 - Part 1 of 6) +AD4-Neil wrote: +AD4- +AD4APg- +ADw-I've recently developed this overwhelming desire to rewrite the +AD4APg- scripts for the first couple of Who stories, replacing Ian and +AD4APg- Barbara with... Well, two totally unexpected characters, who I won't +AD4APg- name in case it inspired someone else to do it+ACE- (Not B7 characters, +AD4APg- before you ask)+AD4- +AD4APg- +AD4APg- +AD4-Xena and Gabrielle? +AD4APg- +AD4APg- +AD4-Far worse +AD4APg- +AD4APg- +AD4APg- +AD4-Bill and Ted? +AD4APg- +AD4APg- +AD4-Beavis and Butthead? +AD4APg- +AD4APg- +AD4-or even +AD4APg- +AD4-Bill and Ben, the Flowerpot men? +AD4APg- +AD4APg- Or even ..... Edward and Sophie... +AD4APg- +AD4APg- Neil +AD4- +AD4-AAAAAARGHGGHGHGHGHGH nnnnnnnngggggg +ADw-urk+AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4-Una +AD4- +AD4- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 17:28:14 -0700 (PDT) From: J MacQueen To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] avenging angels Message-ID: <19990622002814.20669.rocketmail@web901.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit --- Alison Page wrote: > Oh, they are playing my favourite B7 song on the > radio again. 'Avenging angels' by Space. Please > listen to it if you get the chance. It's not the > best song in the world by any means, but it is just > so evocative to me. I like this idea. Trouble is, I've been switching between radio stations on the Walkman, and (dare I mention it) the Shania Twain song "That Don't Impress Me Much" came on. Can't you see certain female B7 characters aiming this at certain male B7 characters? ( Please, don't let me be alone on this one!!) Regards Joanne (grinning, but vaguely irritated) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V99 Issue #197 **************************************