Newsgroups: alt.folklore.herbs From: ceci@lysator.liu.se (Cecilia Henningsson) Subject: Comfrey harmful? Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1993 16:21:45 GMT Here's an article from British gardening magazine,_The_Gardener_, August 1993, page 85. Copyright Headway, Home and Law Publishing Ltd 1993. Reprinted without permission. [begin quote] Harmful hedgerow plants ======================= Comfrey, commonly found in both hedgerows and gardens and often used to make herbal teas, remedies or even eaten as a vegetable, actually contains certain toxins called pyrolixidine alkaloids (PAs). A committee which advises the Government on food safety issues has concluded that there is sufficient evidence linking the intake of comfrey with toxic efects in humans to recommend that we should not consume preparations of comfrey which contains high levels of PAs. Manufacturers and retailers have been asked to withdraw products like comfrey tablest and capsules from the shops. It has also been suggested that eating leaves of roots of comfrey could be dangerous. Comfrey infusions were always thought to be relatively harmless but, in view of this new information it may be wise to think again. [end quote] So what are these things, pyrolixidine alkaloids? And in what quantities does comfrey (Symphytum officinale and other S. species) contain them? The article seems to imply that comfrey is only harmful if taken internally, so growing them for aestethic values should be perfectly safe. Any comfrey junkies in the group care to answer? ;) --Ceci, thinking of planting comfrey -- =====ceci@lysator.liu.se=========================================== "There is a mysterious tendency for four fingers or toes to look like five." Claude Harrison in _The_Portrait_Painter's_Handbook_ =================================================================== From: singer@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (Bart Singer) Date: 10 Jul 1993 18:35:23 GMT There have been at least two studies in the U.S. that suggest a link between comfrey consumption increased risk of cancer (specifically, I think it was liver cancer). The quantity of comfrey consumed was less than 1% of total food consumed (I don't know if that was by weight or calories). I don't know if the test subjects (rodents of some sort) were fed the leaves, roots, or both. I believe that there is quiet turning away from the internal use of comfrey, though it's external use on sprains, strains, and broken bones is still widely suggested. As far as I know, there is no direct health risk associated with growing the plant and if anyone actually does grow the plant, I'd be interested in knowing where I can get some plants (or seeds, or root cuttings.) From: sdn@clotho.acm.rpi.edu (Sue D. Nymme) Date: 11 Jul 1993 17:00:39 GMT The following quote may be biased, so take it FWIW. It's from an essay entitled "Comfrey as Medicine" (1979), issued by the National Institute of Medicinal Herbalists (England). "The strange saga of comfrey indicates the folly and illogicality of the approach which runs as follows. If a trace of a chemical can be isolated from a large quantity of a plant and be fed or injected into laboratory animals, the lethal results may be extrapolated to man who is then told not to take any of the original plant because it contains poison. The plant may have been eaten or made into a tea for centuries during which no single instance of ill-effect has followed its use. Today there is no single man, woman, or child in any country who has been recorded as suffering toxic effects from taking comfrey leaf or root as medicind. Comfrey has a clean sheet and has no case to answer. The onus probandi lies upon those who denigrate a safe herbal remedy by making assumptions in the absence of any evidence to justify what has tended to become an emotive rather than a scientific issue." Me, I agree. The dose makes the toxin. Anything taken in large doses is toxic, and many toxins taken in small doses are called medecines. (Eek! I;m starting to sound like a homeopathist!) :-)