From: bigham@cac.washington.edu (Chuck Bigham) Subject: Re: the relevancy of sexuality to us Date: 10 Sep 1993 02:23:04 GMT [SWM = straight white males] cortese@netcom.com (Janis Maria C. C. Cortese) writes: [Deletia] >I think it's quite obvious why there aren't so many SWM in Paganism; >ObDisclaimer -- I KNOW plenty of sweet and wonderful SWM, okay? >However, they simply have more to gain from towing the Party Line, the >dominant paradigms. For them to become involved with a spirituality >that gives prominence to the feminine is for them to confront a lot of >fears and give up some power. No one does this easily, although there >are men who will. Statistically speaking, however, they are in the >minority among SWM. [More Deletia] >Why IS it that SWM are not present >in Paganism and Wicca proportionate to their numbers in the population >at large? I think a previous poster hit on it -- women and queers have >been so denigrated that we are more likely to flee the dominant >religious straitjackets when other options present themselves. It's >harder to convince a SWM of what he has to gain by confronting fears >about women and queers and giving up some of the power vested in him by >the current dominant philosophies. It's easy to get swept up in generalizations when talking about this subject, so I'm going to try to speak in concrete terms about my own experiences. I'll start by saying I'm a SWM, so hopefully they'll have some bearing on the subject. There are barriers for anyone contemplating a pagan path. The cultural norms in the U.S. don't make it easy to become pagan. Our world view is constructed from birth to favor a rational, mechanistic, dead world presided over by a stern, punishing god who will reward you only if you accept your place in the world and don't make waves and above all consider yourself worthless. If we do reject that worldview, most of us only reject the god part, the world is still rational, mechanistic and dead. And since men, more so than women, are trained to be rational and logical, it's harder for them to make the jump to the living, mysterious world pagans live in. And SWM don't have the goad that gay men have, a dominant religion that actively pushes them away. This training to be rational and logical, cold and unemotional ("Big boys don't cry") is the first hurdle men have to cross. I'm still fighting daily with myself. Every time I try to open myself to the spirit(s) of the world, I have to shut down the voice in the back of my mind that cries "But that's not LOGICAL! It's not RATIONAL!" Second, I think SWM stay away from paganism *because* it's attractive to women and gays. I was hesitant at first to explore paganism because of that. There is a cultural bias in the U.S. for "real men" to stay away from that "sissy stuff." If gays and women do it, real men can't. This was an easy hurdle for me to get over, since I've been doing "sissy stuff" for years. But I've taken my share of flack over it. (Aside: A conversation from high school: "Hey, Bigham. You show horses? That's for girls!" "Yeah, I know." ) Many men are going to have trouble getting around that hurdle. They see themselves in the locker room at the gym on Monday morning. One guy asks, "So Jack, what did you do this weekend?" "I, um, uh, danced around a fire and asked blessings from the Goddess." Third, most SWM, especially white ones ("Pigmentally challanged"), are going to have a lot of trouble letting go of their privilaged position in society. To voluntarily join a persecuted group is a tough decision to make. Women have been persecuted for years. Openly gay men have already come out of one closet. SWM just don't have the practice at being looked down on. I'm still hiding the fact that I'm pagan. My wife knows, everyone else knows I'm not Christian, but that's it. Fourth, and in my opinion, most important (at least from my exploration of Wicca/paganism) is the emphasis on the Goddess will make a SWM run screaming from the room. When I first began exploring Wicca/paganism three years ago, I asked of then net "What do I read to learn more?" A typical newbie question on alt.pagan, and then, as now, the answer was Starhawk's _The Spiral Dance_ and Adler's _Drawing Down the Moon_. I read _Spiral Dance_ first. And almost quit considering paganism all together. My first reaction when I finished it was "Geez, shave off the beard and slap on a pair of breasts." "I thought Wicca was about *balance*? Where's the balance in this?" "Let go of your masculine and get in touch with your feminine! Blech!" I wasn't, and by generalization, SWM aren't, interested in joining a religion that gives predominance to the female. Sure, most of us are raised giving at least lip service to a patriarchal, male dominated religion, but that doesn't mean we should toss it out for a matriarchal, female dominated religion. I wanted balance. Fortunately, I didn't run away. I read _DDTM_ and found out Starhawk's Diannic Wicca wasn't the only way. I read some Carmichael and learned about Wiccan traditions that emphasize balance between the Goddess and the God (Sure, Carmichael's work is pretty sweetness and light, but I like it). And I learned how to balance the Goddess and the God in my own ritual. But the balance is hard. I hear another voice in the back of my mind saying "Dammit, I'm a man. I LIKE the masculine." And I do. But I recognize the need for balance. But I'd refuse to follow a tradition that emphasized the feminine at the expense of the masculine or a tradition the give pre-emminence to the Goddess. Equal status, sure. First among equals, no problem. But not to the exclusion of the God and balance. So, here we have a SWM, logical, rational, afraid of looking like a sissy, used to being, if not in the majority, at least the norm. He's feeling restless, his spiritual needs aren't being met in the dominant religion so he starts looking around. Here's Wicca. He sees a tradition dominated by the Goddess, emphasizing the feminine, populated by gays and women, ridiculed and reviled by the masses. What's he gonna do? >Blessings, >Janis Chuck -- ********************************************************** * Chuck Bigham, Computer Facilities Manager * * University of Washington, Bothell * **********************************************************