From tariqas-digest-approval@europe.std.com Sun Jul 7 07:29:19 1996 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:03:22 -0400 (EDT) From: tariqas-digest-approval@europe.std.com Reply-To: tariqas-digest@world.std.com To: tariqas-digest@world.std.com Subject: tariqas-digest V1 #42 tariqas-digest Tuesday, 2 July 1996 Volume 01 : Number 042 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ennea@net-gate.com Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:07:57 -0400 Subject: Re: newsletter available >the monthly newsletter from Omega Press Mail Order Bookstore has just been sent to our e-mail list. this newsletter tries to highlight new works in the field of Sufism, with some related titles added in. > >if you are interested in receiving this newsletter and do not currently, simply send a brief note in reply to this message and we will add you to our e-mail list. > >------------------------------------- >Abi'l-Khayr >abilkhayr@taconic.net >06/30/96 22:03:21 >------------------------------------- > > > > I would be interested in receiving the above mentioned newsletter. My email address is ennea@net-gate.com. Thank you, Mark Fenkner ------------------------------ From: MFKimball@aol.com Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:58:39 -0400 Subject: Re: Sufi Films Houston Smith did a film on Sufism, which received an award. I didn't think it was all that great. ------------------------------ From: Fred Rice Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:57:49 +1000 (EST) Subject: Re: Shaykh Yusuf [was Re: Cat Stevens (was Re: Sufi) Dear Jinavamsa, Assalamu alakikum, On Mon, 1 Jul 1996 Jinavamsa@aol.com wrote: > just a question from ignorance (again): > > is shaykh being used here as a casual honorific (as in India, Shree, or "srii > if written more formally, has evolved into an equivalent for mister)? or > should we understand from what you are writing that Fariduddien and Yusuf are > both spiritual teachers? I am not a "Shaykh" in the usual Sufi sense... in fact, I have never been called "Shaykh" before! I don't know what to make of it. :) I am a postgraduate student, and this reminds me of the first time I received some mail which addressed me as "Professor Rice" ! :) I told everyone I received a quick promotion! My friends told me I should put the mail on my wall as "evidence" of my new status. ;) Wassalam, Fariduddien Rice ------------------------------ From: MFKimball@aol.com Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:07:20 -0400 Subject: Re: Sufi films Another film about Sufi teachers is * Meetings with Remarkable Men*, about the life of Gurdjieff and his search for spiritual teachers. It was filmed mostly in Afghanistan, with beautiful footage and some interesting dances. ------------------------------ From: ABDUL GHANI BENNETT Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:17:25 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: newsletter available 786 asalaam would like to receive a copy shukran abdul ghani rbennett@cwis.unomaha.edu > > the monthly newsletter from Omega Press Mail Order Bookstore has just been sent to our e-mail list. this newsletter tries to highlight new works in the field of Sufism, with some related titles added in. > > if you are interested in receiving this newsletter and do not currently, simply send a brief note in reply to this message and we will add you to our e-mail list. > > ------------------------------------- > Abi'l-Khayr > abilkhayr@taconic.net > 06/30/96 22:03:21 > ------------------------------------- > > > ------------------------------ From: Well333@turbonet.com (Jacquie Weller) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 18:20:45 +0100 Subject: Re: newsletter available >>the monthly newsletter from Omega Press Mail Order Bookstore has just been >sent to our e-mail list. this newsletter tries to highlight new works in the >field of Sufism, with some related titles added in. >> >>if you are interested in receiving this newsletter and do not currently, >simply send a brief note in reply to this message and we will add you to our >e-mail list. >> >>------------------------------------- >>Abi'l-Khayr >>abilkhayr@taconic.net >>06/30/96 22:03:21 >>------------------------------------- >> >>Yes I am interested in this newletter. Kaffea Lalla. >> >> > >I would be interested in receiving the above mentioned newsletter. My email >address is ennea@net-gate.com. > >Thank you, > >Mark Fenkner > > ------------------------------ From: Michael Moore Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 18:57:58 -0700 Subject: test, Please just delete me None of my messages seem to be getting through. At least if they are, they are not being bounced backed to me. Perhaps I sent to europe.std.com when I should have sent to world.std.com. If anybody on tariqas can tell me if I should expect my mail to be reflected back to me or not, I would most appreciate that information. - -Michael- ------------------------------ From: HENRY.MARTYN@HMI.sprintrpg.sprint.com Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:18:34 -0400 Subject: Locating journal articles 26 June 1996 Hyderabad, India You have all been so helpful on locating or providing information on books for which I and others have been searching. Here is a bit more difficult problem. How do you obtain copies of articles from journals to which you do not have access? In other words, in our specific case, we are not subscribers, we are a research institution which is not connected through interlibrary loan (but are willing to enter into such an arrangement), and we are in India. If, for example, I want to read an article printed in a back issue of Ethno- musicology, how do I begin? This is a problem not only for myself, but for other research students and scholars here in Hyderabad. Thanks in advance for all help. Diane D'Souza Henry Martyn Institute henry.martyn@hmi.sprintrpg.ems.vsnl.net.in ------------------------------ From: Michael Moore Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 21:21:17 -0700 Subject: http://members.aol.com/naqsh/sufi/index.html Hello, If you have a moment, please check out http://members.aol.com/naqsh/sufi/index.html If there are any errors or comments, please let me know. Also, If anybody has any suggestion for sites that might publish a link to this page, I would much appreciate hearing about it. I will, Insh'allah, be adding more to this site/page, so check back in a couple of months for an interesting story of Shaykh Jamil's masjid in Palo Alto. Assalamu alaikum, - -Michael- ------------------------------ From: jabriel@peoples.net (Jabreil Hanafi) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 23:20:57 -0500 Subject: Ahad AHAD In each and each exists One reality. In every molecule, quark, and particle underneath the flurry of a whirling dress an essence and than nothing slips into step. This unity devoid of creation has no need for partners. It is the mystery that has no requirement, not even space, the womb of all illusion, can hold the clearing which it brings evaporating everything incomplete and every thought which for a moment dangles A bridegroom to multiplicity my Beloved is a hidden treasure but waits on nothing. If found it is done by design if hidden by One Will only. To immerse the mind and heart and everything a creature might know itself to be so all that's left is identity in the single unity is impossible. And yet there are those who are masters who have come close and in all humility come back to bow and being kings have others know if at all as nothing but mere slaves Jabriel - ----------------------------------------- Jabriel Hanafi Pivotal Point Dynamics ------------------------------ From: Gale Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:34:46 -0700 Subject: RE: Locating journal articles Dear Diane,=20 A thought occurs to me that you may try to reach Father Christian Troll = at the Vidyajyoti Institute of Religious Studies in New Delhi (if I = locate the phone number, I will forward it to you). You may have seen a = number of his books published in India on Sufism and Islam. I am not = certain however whether he is still at the Institute, although he was = high on their governing board and is probably still deeply associated = with it. If not, you may try to reach him through the Center for the = Study of Islam and Christian-Muslim Relations in Birmingham, England, = otherwise some of the folks at Vidyajyoti may be able to help you. Good luck with your search. Blessings, Nur Richard Gale ------------------------------ From: Hafizullah@aol.com Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 01:58:05 -0400 Subject: Re: Threshold Society URL (was: Re: Melevi) In a message dated 96-06-30 09:33:02 EDT, you write: << The Mevlevi Dervish Order sounds like the "turners" here on the West Coast, Likely the same group. >> There are in fact at least two Mevlevi groups operating in North America. The one responsible for the referenced web page is the Threshold Society, under the direction of Shaikh Kabir Helminski (whose translations of Rumi are very, very fine BTW). The other is the Mevlevi Order of America, under the direction of Shaikh Jelaluddin Loras, son and spiritual successor of the late Konya Shaikh Suleyman Loras (aka Suleyman Dede, the man called "Dede" in Reshad Feild's book "The Last Barrier."). ------------------------------ From: CWoodsong@aol.com Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 02:35:21 -0400 Subject: Muktananda Meditate with respect and reverance. Discover the ultimate Essence. Attain That, and be delivered from conflict and fear. O dear one, absorb yourself in the teachings of a saint, a man of knowledge. When you perceive knowledge directly, doubt will abandon you. Know all the elements thoroughly. Recognize only universal Comnsciousness. O dear one, grow centered in That alone, and totally banish doubt. .... Only one principle exists; there is no other. Boundless, one without a second, you are That. Life is ancient, but you are ever-new. Through your ignorance, you see Brahman as the whole and yourself as a part. But there is neither whole nor part, neither enjoyer or object of enjoyment. All is Brahman. You are Brahman. There is only one existence -- your and His together. Inseparable, all-pervasive, you alone exist. There is neither presence nor absence, neither sitting nor walking, neither good nor evil. Only you are true and authentic. You are purer than pure. Never manifold, you are indivisible Consciousness. Unborn, unchanging, all-pervasive, you are the eternal Witness, the source of manifestation. You are a mountain of joy. The entire cosmos, all places and all times, springs from you, its foundation and source. Though you are in everything, still you remain apart. You are the entire universe. You are in all, and all is in you. Sun, moon, and stars revolve within you. ... You are enjoyer and enjoyment, the whole as well as each part. You are desire, knowledge and action. You are yoga and philosophy. You alone shine as the sun. You alone flow as a river. You alone smile through a flower. It is you who dwells in all. You roar as a lion, you run as a deer, you stare as a cat, and keep watch as a dog. You stir the heart as a child, You are both young and old. You are good and evil, happiness and sorrow, father and son. You are manifest as well as concealed. You are the seer, the seen, and the process of seeing; the creator, the creation, and the act of creating; the knower, the knowledge, and the process of knowing; the meditator, the object of meditation, and the act of meditating. It is you alone who lives and dies, who teaches and learns. You are the giver of food and the food itself, the perceiver and the perceived. You bite in the form of a snake, and suffer as the person biten. Extracting the poison, you are the healer. Relieving the pain, you are the medicine. You kill through the god of death, and protect through a mother's compassion. You are both black and white, both darkness and light. Cruelty and kindness, love and hate, hunger and thirst, anger and forgiveness -- you exist in all. Body, mind, and prana; ears, eyes, and nose; word, thought and action; ancient and ever-new -- you exist in all. Though you have assumed many forms in this world, still you are formless. Beyond the beyond, you exist in all forms, good and bad, as well as in formlessness. There is nothing but you. Without name and form, you have no limits, no effects. You are imperceptible, leaving no trace. You are without qualities. You are Witness-Consciousness, subtler than the subtlest, tinier than an atom. ... -- Swami Muktananda ------------------------------ From: informe@best.com Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 02:37:11 -0700 Subject: Honorifics (was: Re: Shaykh Yusuf) >just a question from ignorance (again): > >is shaykh being used here as a casual honorific (as in India, Shree, or "srii >if written more formally, has evolved into an equivalent for mister)? or >should we understand from what you are writing that Fariduddien and Yusuf are >both spiritual teachers? Wa alaikum as-salaam, Shaykh Nazim calls most everybody "Shaykh So-and-so", and his dervishes often follow his lead. >also, do you have specifics on the convention in LA you refer to below? >perhaps some readers at tariqas would be interested. There is a web page for it at: http://world.std.com/~asfa/Conf/conference.html. I'll see if I can transcribe it as ASCII and post it here later. Salaams, Hamza ------------------------------ From: Frank Gaude Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 06:38:42 -0700 Subject: Re: Threshold Society URL (was: Re: Melevi) Hafizullah@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 96-06-30 09:33:02 EDT, you write: > > << The Mevlevi Dervish Order sounds like the "turners" here on the West > Coast, Likely the same group. >> > > There are in fact at least two Mevlevi groups operating in North America. > The one responsible for the referenced web page is the Threshold Society, > under the direction of Shaikh Kabir Helminski (whose translations of Rumi are > very, very fine BTW). The other is the Mevlevi Order of America, under the > direction of Shaikh Jelaluddin Loras, son and spiritual successor of the late > Konya Shaikh Suleyman Loras (aka Suleyman Dede, the man called "Dede" in > Reshad Feild's book "The Last Barrier."). Thanks for the update... diversity is a beautiful aspect of life! Dervishes are beautiful people, The Beloved... tanzen ------------------------------ From: Frank Gaude Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 18:34:21 -0700 Subject: In Celebration Of Hello, people of many lands! With his permission, we post friend Steve's wonderful gift to his country celebrating its Day of Independence, July 4th, 1776. >From all our friends from around the globe, our beautiful Mother Earth, perhaps a piece stating your feelings about your native land, the land that gave you birth, through God's bounty? Please... America, Song of Courage - ------------------------ Green grassy fields nestled among solemn lakes and clear streams dancing in mountain's shadow. America is a song, sung by the land to her children, running, a jumble of arms and legs in summer's bright circus of crocuses running in tattered jeans wearing big imaginations, climbing to the tree tops where the sky is ten times bigger children late to answer dinner call eating fast, jumping up quickly to explore yet another world before this day must end. America is a song of beauty, sung to young and old fills their eyes with shining sunsets, fills their senses with dark wet earth after rain while golden wheat is playing in the lightning as afternoon dwindles beneath the pensive clouds. America, a song of courage sung on city streets in strange and battered rhythms, needs are spoken amid the hardship, anger flowers under the streetlights and silence rides the subway amid the bitterness and melancholy regret. America, sing your song, fill the generations with the sound of it, the rich melody and the firm measure of intervals and progression. Fill the generations so they can remember it when the wild winds journey westward and autumn leaves drench the mountains with awesome demands of color. Moonlight falls like rain on the soft carpet of birch leaves strewn on the mystic forest floor. Stars fill the heavens with their tasty gossip and wonder what the future will bring. I wonder what I can bring, perhaps one small note, pure and free cast with all the love I possess back upon the land that nurtured me. - ------------------------------------------------------- (c)1996 steve phillips Thank you, steve, tanzen ------------------------------ From: Frank Gaude Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 06:58:08 -0700 Subject: Re: Ahad Jabreil Hanafi wrote: > > AHAD > > In each and each exists One reality. > In every molecule, quark, and particle > underneath the flurry of a whirling dress > an essence and than nothing slips into step. [...] > And yet there are those who are masters > who have come close > and in all humility come back to bow > and being kings > have others know if at all > as nothing but mere slaves Thanks, Jabreil, this one makes my day... Towards The One... united with all the illuminated souls who form the embodiment of the Master, the Spirit of Guidance. love, love, love, tanzen ------------------------------ From: Frank Gaude Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 07:01:49 -0700 Subject: Re: http://members.aol.com/naqsh/sufi/index.html Michael Moore wrote: > > Hello, > If you have a moment, please check out > http://members.aol.com/naqsh/sufi/index.html Just did! Beautiful... > If there are any errors or comments, please let me know. Wow! a nice beginning! > and it did not get through. I understand that I should have posted > to tariqas@world. My FEAR is that this post and my other > two posts will all arrive at tariqas at the same time making > me look like a jerk. Oh well.> I have only received it once... and you a jerk, how, being The Beloved! > I will, Insh'allah, be adding more to this site/page, so check back > in a couple of months for an interesting story of Shaykh Jamil's > masjid in Palo Alto. Okay. peace, love, love, love, tanzen ------------------------------ From: Frank Gaude Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 07:23:51 -0700 Subject: Re: Muktananda CWoodsong@aol.com wrote: > > Meditate with respect and reverance. > Discover the ultimate Essence. > Attain That, > and be delivered from conflict and fear. [...] > Know all the elements thoroughly. > Recognize only universal Consciousness. > O dear one, grow centered in That alone, > and totally banish doubt. > > .... > > Only one principle exists; > there is no other. > Boundless, one without a second, > you are That. > Life is ancient, but you are ever-new. [...] > Though you have assumed many forms in this world, > still you are formless. > Beyond the beyond, you exist in all forms, > good and bad, > as well as in formlessness. > There is nothing but you. > > Without name and form, > you have no limits, no effects. > You are imperceptible, leaving no trace. > You are without qualities. > You are Witness-Consciousness, > subtler than the subtlest, > tinier than an atom. ... > > -- Swami Muktananda Wow, Gospels of John and Thomas, al Qur'an, Torah, 'Gita, Rumi, all wrapped into One... Carol, thanks for posting this powerful stuff from the good swami. Let's "grow centered in That alone." tanzen ------------------------------ From: Frank Gaude Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 08:00:18 -0700 Subject: A Physicist's MeditationI Hello, folks! Sharing today's meditation: Gas atoms chilled to near absolute zero, i.e., most of the energy removed, behave as a unit, without individual movement. We thus see the analogy of water turned into ice, fluid into a solid, just as a water droplet is compared to the ocean. When we remove much of the heat of individual ego-personality, humanity acts more as a unit, with one "personality" for the "good" of all as co-inhabitants of the planet, of the universe. >From the vision of there being many: we find unity! Any comments, anybody? tanzen ------------------------------ From: ASHA101@aol.com Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:49:00 -0400 Subject: Re: A Physicist's MeditationI >>>When we remove much of the heat of individual ego-personality, humanity acts more as a unit<<<< sounds horribly boring, unless i don't get the concept. Persaonally i like highly developed ego-personalities with much activity (i.e. heat), makes things very fluid. Then things act like one ocean rather than one block of ice. And, if it means we need to occasionally suffer the slings and arrows of outragous selves, then ok by me. Which is to say that, for me, oneness is achieved by setting you (and me) free. It allways seems to me extreemly humerous but it seems to me that whenever Pir Vilayat wants to bring up the subject of organizing the organization, he allways starts with, "Imagne you are free..." Asha ------------------------------ From: Keeper of the Dragon Flagon Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 11:43:31 Subject: Re: Sufi story: saving the inhabitants of hell >Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 06:03:34 +1000 (EST) >From: Fred Rice >"I say," declared Abu Yazid, "that he is my disciple who >stands on the brink of Hell and takes by the hand every >one being conveyed to Hell and dispatches him to Heaven, >and then enters Hell in his place." This reminds me strongly of a legend about the arcangel Lucifer, clad in armour, wielding a great sword built out of pure emerald, to do battle, who was dispatched to the center of the world to do battle with the Great Beast, who lay at the edge of the Abyss. A great battle ensued, but the Great Beast tricked Lucifer, and fled the Abyss, leaving the arcangel trapped there for eternity. This comes from the rich tradition of legends about the Holy Grail. Supposedly, Lucifer also wore a emerald in his crown, which eventually manifested upon the world in the shape of a cup. - --------------------------------------- Brett W. McCoy "Unix was never designed to keep Istvan Dragosani people from doing stupid things, istvan@gnn.com because that policy would also keep Disciple of the Eastern Mysteries them from doing clever things." of both Love and War -- Doug Gwyn ------------------------------ End of tariqas-digest V1 #42 ****************************