From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V00 #205 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume00/205 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 00 : Issue 205 Today's Topics: Re: [B7L] Revolutions past Re: [B7L] aussies Re: [B7L] Re: winspit quarry trip Re: [B7L] Re: potential Gareth Thomas sighting Re: [B7L] Revolutions past out-takes Re: [B7L] Revolutions past - so off topic we should be kicked off by now. Re: [B7L] Revolutions past Re: [B7L] A Patriotic Fourth Re: [B7L] Revolutions past Re: [B7L] Revolutions past Re: [B7L] Darrow in Dr.Who Re: [B7L] Darrow in Dr.Who Re: [B7L] Avatars Re: [B7L] out-takes [B7L] B7 Items for sale Re: [B7L] Avatars Re: [B7L] A Patriotic Fourth Re: [B7L] Revolutions past Re: [B7L] Avatars Re: [B7L] Darrow in Dr.Who Re: [B7L] Revolutions past Re: [B7L] Darrow in Dr.Who Re: [B7L] Avatars [B7L] so off topic we should be kicked off by now. [B7L] A question about ethics Re: [B7L] A question about ethics ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 09:12:07 EST From: "J MacQueen" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Revolutions past Message-ID: <20000717231207.18519.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: "Una McCormack" > "Here, Ma, have a salmon sandwich." Smoked salmon, surely? Regards Joanne ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 09:18:33 EST From: "J MacQueen" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] aussies Message-ID: <20000717231833.85057.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: Joanne >>Melbournites all. >>(except me ) >>Min.xxx >Actually, I'm from Sydney. I'm not. But I'm here anyway... Regards Joanne (avoiding commuting from Newcastle) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 09:20:50 EST From: "J MacQueen" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: winspit quarry trip Message-ID: <20000717232050.66833.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: "Sally Manton" > > >Me. :-) I did wonder... Regards Joanne ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 09:23:03 EST From: "J MacQueen" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: potential Gareth Thomas sighting Message-ID: <20000717232303.95406.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: JEB31538@cs.com >Now we know that Gareth can dance. Now I have to see this one! Regards Joanne ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 19:38:01 -0400 (EDT) From: padme@bantha.org (Beanish) To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Revolutions past Message-Id: <20000717233801.3706E66B05@bantha.org> sjk3@cornell.edu wrote: : Wasn't Sarah Jane Smith from Croydon? South Croydon, to be precise. Claudia -- He had gone beyond the world of metaphor and simile into the place of things that *are*, and it was changing him. -- Neil Gaiman, Neverwhere ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 18:12:52 +1000 From: "Roger the Shrubber" To: "blake's seven" Subject: out-takes Message-Id: <200007180057.KAA05626@vasquez.zip.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Isobel wrote Apparently there were Blakes 7 out-takes on a BBC programme in the UK a week ago.. *** Out-takes are usually good fun. On cable TV they often use 5 - 10 minute filler programs between scheduled shows. Often these are blooper shows of some description. (And who can get enough of those poncy show-jumpers falling into the water ?! ;->) There was one such program which was a BBC collection (the host reminded me of the male Holly from Red Dwarf) & it had an exuberant Vila holding a huge gun and every time he tried to fire it, it failed to go off. Episode name anyone ? Ika also mentioned another one they played between Servie & Travis in her office. IIRC it was Travis having a problem with a gadget (communicator ?) and he cracks up, while Jackie remained stony-faced to the end. Ever the pro. darren r A sense of superiority to the sufferer is a component of the human experience of compassion. ----------------------------------------- Life, liberty and the pursuit of property are the fundamental natural rights and the social contract is made to protect these rights. ----------------------------------------- Panic Disorder http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/2634/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 21:07:09 EDT From: B7Morrigan@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Revolutions past - so off topic we should be kicked off by now. Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gnog wrote: > And it worked. Throughout series 4 we hear of planets be brought back under > Federation control. Therefore they had chosen to be outside Federation > control. Blake (with the unwitting help of the Americ...oops Andomedans, who > came in right at the end) actually got what he wanted. Same it didn't last. I WARNED the rest of you that if we kept letting Gnog in this country -- supposedly on "business" -- he'd reveal our true form. All right, now which Yank is going to blob over to England to seal this leak? I have a new tea kettle if you need transport. Morrigan (Trish) "The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 06:31:00 +0100 From: "Una McCormack" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Revolutions past Message-ID: <029001bff079$a556ee30$0d01a8c0@codex> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joanne: > >From: "Una McCormack" > > "Here, Ma, have a salmon sandwich." > > Smoked salmon, surely? Nah, the Royals are just a jumped-up middle class family. Tinned salmon. Una ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 07:52:58 +0100 From: "Nyder" To: , "Ellynne G." Subject: Re: [B7L] A Patriotic Fourth Message-ID: <00a301bff08a$6aac67e0$321086d4@stx.ox.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ellynne, > I'm very fond of the symbolism behind ours (side issue: political > implications in the various rebellions in B7 having no flag or symbol of > their own [other than Blake]. Did this reflect a lack of unity [all > groups apparently fighting under their own, already in use, local > standards], a feeling that they were only out to reform the system > instead of overthrow it, or some other factor [perhaps they asked the > Liberator's unknown fashion designer to come up with something but could > never quite bring themselves to fight under black leather studded with > silver stars]?). Much as I like the third option, I'm inclined to go for the first one... it's interesting though that all the resistances we see in B7 do seem to be pretty much grassroots, independent movements, and yet also seem to be in some sort of communication. Is there a sort of rebel Comintern operating here? Back on topic for once, Fiona Fiona Moore http://redrival.com/nyder/indexx.html Resist the Host or your Oneness will be Absorbed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 08:04:00 +0100 From: "Nyder" To: "Neil Faulkner" , "b7" Subject: Re: [B7L] Revolutions past Message-ID: <00a401bff08a$6b7d7380$321086d4@stx.ox.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Neil Faulkner To: b7 Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [B7L] Revolutions past > All references to 'Britain' should also include the Canadian, Australian, > New Zealand, Indian etc contributions, which were considerable (to say the > least!). Thank you! > women. What gets up my nose is the tunnel-visioned mentality of union > jack-waving morons trying to claim that *England* won the Second World War. Not to mention claim that everything has gone utterly downhill since then, which they promptly blame on Labour, the immigrants and the French. > (Much the same could be said of the First World War too. Although the flag-waving morons seem to refer to that one a lot less-- my theory is because the heroes and villains are much less clear-cut. One reason, I suspect, for the popularity of WWII among the flag-wavers is cos it can be reduced to a simple story: from Cowboys and Indians to British (and/or Americans) and Nazis (I was wryly amused recently to watch a wartime film in which the main action was set in Italy but the villains all happened to be German, which makes one wonder). There's an obvious Blake's 7 parallell here which I'm not even going to bother to make. > to achieving much, even with colonial assistance. I'm not happy with the > way all attention on that war seems to focus on Flanders, with a sidelong > glance at Lawrence in Palestine, when the largest army involved was the > Austro-Hungarian, the eastern front gets very short shrift, and the Italian > front is almost totally ignored even though tens of thousands of men died > there. It's a very disproportionate perspective.) But it doesn't make for as exciting television... there's a German journalist of whom I'm very fond who was in the Communist Resistance in WWII, and who repeatedly complains that German resistance members are always being ignored and/or sidelined during any discussion of WWII, mainly cos they don't fit the neat picture of Allies Good Germans Bad which even the German press maintains. Fiona Fiona Moore http://redrival.com/nyder/indexx.html Resist the Host or your Oneness will be Absorbed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 07:48:43 +0100 From: "Nyder" To: , Subject: Re: [B7L] Revolutions past Message-ID: <00a201bff08a$69e2fd60$321086d4@stx.ox.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sandra: > >> Live From The Birthplace Of Robert Goulet, > >> Penny > > > > Live from the Birthplace of Nobody In Particular [i.e., Croydon], > > > > Fiona > > Wasn't Sarah Jane Smith from Croydon? She *lived* in Croydon (although by the time of The Five Doctors she'd obviously moved house)-- they never actually said that she was *born* there, so I'm hedging my bets. Fiona Fiona Moore http://redrival.com/nyder/indexx.html Resist the Host or your Oneness will be Absorbed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 00:28:49 +0100 From: "Nyder" To: "Bob Vinisky" , "B7 Mailing List" Subject: Re: [B7L] Darrow in Dr.Who Message-ID: <00a001bff08a$68828300$321086d4@stx.ox.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >There is also a review of Doctor Who and the Silurians, > Paul'sÊother episode at http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/episode_guide/ > >silurians.shtmlÊbut he's not mentioned much in that review. > > "Secretary Rontaine" is also in that episode (as the Project > Director). I believe he is also in one of the Dalek episodes (Genesis > Of The Daleks (?)). In that same ep is one of the Alta's from > Redemption (she's one of the freedom fighters). The actor you're thinking of is Peter Miles, who plays Davros' sidekick Nyder (pretty much a villain in his own right really) in "Genesis of the Daleks," and is also Professor Whitaker in "Invasion of the Dinosaurs" as well as Dr Lawrence in "Silurians." Actually he's been in just about *any* telefantasy show you care to name, and is apparently still at it. The actress is Harriett Philpin, playing Bettan, one of the Thals. Fiona Fiona Moore http://redrival.com/nyder/indexx.html Resist the Host or your Oneness will be Absorbed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 00:45:27 -0700 (PDT) From: "Wendy S. Penberriss" To: Christine+Steve , B7 Mailing List Subject: Re: [B7L] Darrow in Dr.Who Message-ID: <20000718074527.4903.qmail@web5203.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Christine+Steve wrote: > The review is quite good - but its been too long > since I've seen this episode, so I don't know if its > as bad as the early reviews make out. I've seen it recently, and it is, it is. Paul is lovely to watch, but unfortunately he's the *only* thing that makes it worth watching. I recommend watching it on video and keeping one finger on the fast-forward. > There is also a review of Doctor Who and the > Silurians, Paul's other episode at > http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/episode_guide/silurians.shtml Which is a much better story but we see much less of Paul... sigh. Wendy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 00:47:28 -0700 (PDT) From: "Wendy S. Penberriss" To: "Ellynne G." , blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Avatars Message-ID: <20000718074728.5015.qmail@web5203.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- "Ellynne G." wrote: > And, with only the mildest of spoilers on the new > Harry Potter book > (which still qualifies as a full fledged warning for > those who haven't > read the book), Snape reminds me a lot more of Avon > than he did before. D'you think? I think maybe Travis I. Wendy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue Jul 18 14:44:50 BST 2000 From: Ika To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] out-takes Message-Id: <200007181350.OAA29787@smtp.uk2net.com> "Darren R"/"Roger the Shrubber" (not sure which one makes more sense, actually): > Ika also mentioned another one they played between Servie & Travis in her > office. IIRC it was Travis having a problem with a gadget (communicator ?) > and he cracks up, while Jackie remained stony-faced to the end. Ever the > pro. She cracks up eventually, but they cut the out-take just as she starts laughing. (Sorry, I notice this stuff due to living with a Jackie obsessive. I had to watch it like 20 times with her.) Love, Ika ---------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using http://uk2.net UK's FREE Domains, FREE Dialup, FREE Webdesign, FREE email ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 07:23:27 -0700 From: "Kinkade, Carol A" To: "'blakes7@lysator.liu.se'" Subject: [B7L] B7 Items for sale Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello I'd be interested in selling the items below if anyone is interested in buying them. Thank you These prices do not include postage. 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Vila kneeling between them holding ORAC) (color) 4) Fourth Season Crew (color) 5) Avon and ORAC on GP (Avon looking up, watching Scorpio descend) (b&w) 6) Avon pointing gun (the scene from "Assassin" when he shoots Benos, the slave trader) (b&w) 7) Avon/Blake/Vila season 1 (b&w) 8) Avon & Jenna from "Spacefall" (Avon with his arm around Jenna's waist pointing gun - it looks like he's protecting her but I don't remember this scene from the ep) (b&w) 9) Shot of Avon (from waist up) at his station on Liberator (b&w) 10) Nice shot of Avon in the Silver tunic (b&w) 11) 3rd season crew from "Powerplay" (Tarrant in Fed uniform, Dayna in white "huntress" outfit, Vila with beard (color) 12) Picture of Paul taking his shirt off at a convention (color) NTSC B7 Video Tapes Season 1 (Tapes 1 thru 7) $50 1 The Way Back/Spacefall 2 Cygnus Alpha/Time Squad 3 The Web/Seek-Locate-Destroy 4 Mission to Destiny/Duel 5 Project Avalon/Breakdown 6 Bounty/Deliverance 7 ORAC/Redemption Season 2 (Tapes 8 thru 13) $45 8 Shadow/Weapon 9 Horizon/Pressure Point 10 Trial/Killer 11 Hostage/Countdown 12 Voice From the Past/Gambit 13 The Keeper/Star One Season 3 (Tapes 14 thru 20) $50 14 Aftermath/Powerplay 15 Dawn of the Gods/Volcano 16 Harvest of Kairos/City at the Edge of the World 17 Children of Auron/Rumours of Death 18 Sarcophagus/Ultraworld 19 Moloch/Death-Watch 20 Terminal/Rescue Season 4 (Tapes 21 thru 26) $45 21 Power/Traitor 22 Stardrive/Animals 23 Headhunter/Assassin 24 Games/Sand 25 Gold/Orbit 26 Warlord/Blake ------------------------------ Date: Tue Jul 18 15:21:14 BST 2000 From: Ika To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Avatars Message-Id: <200007181426.PAA03938@smtp.uk2net.com> Ellyne wrote: [snip cool stuff about some books] > So, kind of 'if Avon were Travis.' Which is ironically a (PGP) story idea which hit me like a bolt from the blue yesterday (somebody please warn me how many times this has been done before, so I don't waste too much blood & sweat over it - I'm still a newbie) Love, Ika ---------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using http://uk2.net UK's FREE Domains, FREE Dialup, FREE Webdesign, FREE email ------------------------------ Date: Tue Jul 18 15:26:57 BST 2000 From: Ika To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] A Patriotic Fourth Message-Id: <200007181432.PAA04859@smtp.uk2net.com> Ellyne: > > Let's put in a special mention for old idealism (hey, we all know Blake > formed his political attitudes watching old films from the midtwentieth > century, especially Frank Capra - and he probably loved Jimmy Stewart). So true! And I thought I was the only one who'd spotted it! > > And, although I think the U.K.'s flag is lovely (and I will admit, under > pressure, that ours does have a strong 18th century artistic sense that > is perhaps a bit much by modern standards, though it's nice to have a > flag that's easy to spot [half the point of The Star Spangled Banner]), > I'm very fond of the symbolism behind ours (side issue: political > implications in the various rebellions in B7 having no flag or symbol of > their own [other than Blake]. Did this reflect a lack of unity [all > groups apparently fighting under their own, already in use, local > standards], a feeling that they were only out to reform the system > instead of overthrow it, or some other factor [perhaps they asked the > Liberator's unknown fashion designer to come up with something but could > never quite bring themselves to fight under black leather studded with > silver stars]?). I went on about this at some length in a paper I wrote a couple of months ago - how the "Blake's 7" symbol is actually the Federation's symbol with what is essentially graffiti on it saying, um, "Blake's 7" - so the rebels don't have a sign of their own. I think it's a bit of all the things you were talking about, but essentially a recognition that fighting *against* something implicates you in that something (all the Rumours of Death stuff - is Avon just as bad as Shrinker? - and the Blake/Travis interaction, etc). You can never quite bring about a whole new system - you're always to some extent "reforming" rather than revolting (tee-hee). You can't fight a dirty opponent and stay clean yourself (um, except maybe in 'Duel', but that didn't really work out in the end.) Love, Ika ---------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using http://uk2.net UK's FREE Domains, FREE Dialup, FREE Webdesign, FREE email ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 08:53:08 +0100 From: "Nyder" To: "Una McCormack" , Subject: Re: [B7L] Revolutions past Message-ID: <000001bff0df$2939f2a0$94c828c3@stx.ox.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Una McCormack To: Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 6:31 AM Subject: Re: [B7L] Revolutions past > Joanne: > > > >From: "Una McCormack" > > > "Here, Ma, have a salmon sandwich." > > > > Smoked salmon, surely? > > Nah, the Royals are just a jumped-up middle class family. Tinned salmon. And when the press aren't watching, it's back to good old tuna mayonnaise... Fiona Fiona Moore http://redrival.com/nyder/indexx.html Resist the Host or your Oneness will be Absorbed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 19:49:30 +0200 From: "Marian de Haan" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Avatars Message-ID: <004601bff0e0$8ceac580$3fef72c3@marian-de-haan.multiweb.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reacting to Ellynne's: >> So, kind of 'if Avon were Travis.'<< Ika asked: >Which is ironically a (PGP) story idea which hit me like a bolt from the blue yesterday (somebody please warn me how many times this has been done before, so I don't waste too much blood & sweat over it - I'm still a newbie)< The comic strip Prime Legacy by Nik Spender, in the Horizon newsletter, uses that theme. I love it - it has a good plot, lots of action and is beautifully drawn (all IMO of course). Avon looks gorgeous with an eye patch :-) Marian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 07:55:29 +0100 From: "Julie Horner" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Darrow in Dr.Who Message-ID: <008001bff085$40043f40$b392bc3e@orac> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Christine+Steve >The review is quite good - but its been too long since I've seen this >episode, so I don't know if its as bad as the early reviews make out. I recently saw this for the first time - courtesy of my local library which was having an old video sale, so for £2 I thought I might as well get it. I am glad I didn't pay much more for it, but having said that I did actually enjoy it. Not just for Paul, but also because I thought it was screamingly funny. Yes, viewed as a bit of OTT camp-comedy it was well worth £2. Julie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 07:50:14 +0100 From: "Julie Horner" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Revolutions past Message-ID: <007f01bff085$3f658e40$b392bc3e@orac> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Una McCormack" > Joanne: > > > >From: "Una McCormack" > > > "Here, Ma, have a salmon sandwich." > > > > Smoked salmon, surely? > > Nah, the Royals are just a jumped-up middle class family. Tinned salmon. > At least then the dear old Queen Mum doesn't have to watch out for the bones. I'm sure I have heard of at least two occasions when she has been rushed in to hospital with a fish bone in her throat. They probably have a team of medics on stand-by every time she says "I just fancy a bit of sole for tea..." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 14:51:51 -0400 From: "Christine+Steve" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Darrow in Dr.Who Message-ID: <003301bff0e9$57443fc0$8a279ad8@cgorman> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Julie replied about Timelash > I recently saw this for the first time - courtesy of my local library > which was having an old video sale, so for £2 I thought I might > as well get it. > > I am glad I didn't pay much more for it, but having said that I did > actually enjoy it. Not just for Paul, but also because I thought it > was screamingly funny. Yes, viewed as a bit of OTT camp-comedy > it was well worth £2. Defiantly worth 2 pounds! But then I'm a bit sad and have almost all the Dr Who videos released by the Beeb. Don't have Timelash though. Actually the Beeb have just release Time Flight too, which again isn't a great story. I wonder how they choose which one's to release? I'm sure I'll still get a copy when I next head to the UK. Steve Dobson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 15:30:05 EDT From: B7Morrigan@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Avatars Message-ID: <43.7af8c29.26a60a3d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > --- "Ellynne G." wrote: > > > And, with only the mildest of spoilers on the new > > Harry Potter book > > (which still qualifies as a full fledged warning for > > those who haven't > > read the book), Snape reminds me a lot more of Avon > > than he did before. > That must be why I've always found it difficult to dislike Snape in the first 3 books. I'll probably be at Borders today or tomorrow now that you've given me reason. Next thing you'll tell me is that it was Snape that shot Harry's father... Morrigan (Trish) "The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 21:54:38 +0100 From: "Andrew Ellis" To: Subject: [B7L] so off topic we should be kicked off by now. Message-ID: <00bd01bff28d$4ab43da0$7f4e063e@leanet> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >(with the unwitting help of the Americ...oops Andomedans, >who >> came in right at the end) actually got what he wanted. Same it didn't last. > >I WARNED the rest of you that if we kept letting Gnog in this country -- >supposedly on "business" -- he'd reveal our true form. All right, now which >Yank is going to blob over to England to seal this leak? I have a new tea >kettle if you need transport. > > >Morrigan (Trish) You can probably get me in mid September or the end of October. Gnog ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 23:58:02 +0100 From: "Pat Sumner" To: Subject: [B7L] A question about ethics Message-ID: <009001bff10b$aed82b80$70cd883e@s5e8f3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Marian de Haan" > The comic strip Prime Legacy by Nik Spender, in the Horizon newsletter, uses > that theme. I love it - it has a good plot, lots of action and is > beautifully drawn (all IMO of course). Avon looks gorgeous with an eye > patch :-) I liked episode (4?) of this so much I bought the back issues containing the previous episodes. In one episode, showing Avon with patch unconscious, the picture looks a *lot* like Blake. I wonder if the original storyline was going to use Blake instead of Avon? I *can't wait* for the next magazine, so I can read episode 5!!!! From: "Christine+Steve" > Actually the Beeb have just release Time Flight too, which again isn't a > great story. I wonder how they choose which one's to release? They are running out of unreleased material. Of the complete stories they hold, only 17 or so are unreleased, and one or two of them are 'coming soon'. I think that is also the reason for recent 'incomplete' releases, and re-release of prevoiusly sold material. They're also apparently planning to release more DVDs (next is 'Robots of Death'). Anyway, back to Blakes 7... I've been reading lots of fan fiction recently, and I was wondering about my legal position. I run a small Blakes 7 roleplaying group, with five players, all close friends. Would it be unethical or illegal of me to 'recycle' plot ideas from any of these as adventures for the group? The adventures are NOT published in any way, for profit or otherwise. They are ONLY used to keep a small group of idiots (sorry - meant to say 'people') happy for a few hours each week. I realise I'm being euphemistic in using the word 'recycle', when I should say 'plagiarise.' Any ideas? Pat 'I seldom comment on other people's ethics.' - Avon, Aftermath ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 19:14:04 EDT From: B7Morrigan@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] A question about ethics Message-ID: <34.8175000.26a63ebc@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pat wrote: > I've been reading lots of fan fiction recently, and I was wondering > about my legal position. > I run a small Blakes 7 roleplaying group, with five players, all close > friends. > Would it be unethical or illegal of me to 'recycle' plot ideas from > any of these as adventures for the group? > The adventures are NOT published in any way, for profit or otherwise. > They are ONLY used to keep a small group of idiots (sorry - meant to > say 'people') happy for a few hours each week. > I realise I'm being euphemistic in using the word 'recycle', when I > should say 'plagiarise.' > > Any ideas? The obvious idea is to ask the author of the fanfic for permission. Those who are more experienced than I in the world of fandom might offer more advice but I think asking permission is simply a matter of courtesy. I realize that might seem difficult but I think that many of the authors participate in this list or in the Freedom City list, and/or that members of those lists might know how to contact the author. All you'd have to do is post a note that you're trying to reach a particular author and ask for help in doing so. The other obvious direction to reach an author is through the editor/publisher of the zine, most of whom have email addresses as well. Morrigan (Trish) "The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity." -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V00 Issue #205 **************************************