From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V00 #261 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume00/261 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 00 : Issue 261 Today's Topics: Re: [B7L] Vote B7 [was Re: BFI poll] [ "Una McCormack" ] [B7L] creation of man and Auronar [ "Ellynne G." ] Re: [B7L] I love 1978 [ dixonm@pobox.com ] Re: [B7L] I love 1978 [ "Una McCormack" ] Re: Beautiful voices (was Re: [B7L] [ mistral@centurytel.net ] Re: [B7L] Midsummer Nights Dream - R [ Judith Proctor ] RE: [B7L] I Love 1978 [ Louise Rutter To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Vote B7 [was Re: BFI poll] Message-ID: <03e301c02027$318ab080$0d01a8c0@codex> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Harriet: > I did like Our Friends in the North. Just because you didn't get to be an extra... Though I'm probably a sucker for anything with "north" in the title. Not to mention Chris Eccleston, Daniel Craig and, above all, TREVOR COOPER in the cast. Yeah, Chris Eccleston is a plus point. And the closing scene is the only time I've ever really liked an Oasis song. Una ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 23:10:24 +0100 From: "Una McCormack" To: "b7" Subject: Re: [B7L] Vote B7 [was Re: BFI poll] Message-ID: <040301c0202a$efa9ece0$0d01a8c0@codex> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Neil wrote: > From: Una McCormack > > Am I the only person in the world who thinks Dennis Potter was a vastly > > over-rated writer whose bloated epics verge on being total shit? > > Probably not, but you bloody well ought to be. I've tried and I've tried and I've tried with Potter, but everything by him I've sat down to watch, I've eventually had to switch off in disgust. I'm prepared to reevaluate everything I've said if and when I get to see 'The Singing Detective', but thus far - ick. > > 'Very Peculiar Practice' also, > > altho' I would go for season 2, because it is so surreal and sinister (and > > repeated once, on UK Gold - and then we moved house and lost cable access - > > d'oh!). > > I taped the 2nd series and then stupidly went over them because I was sure > it would be repeated. Silly Neil. Argh! Una ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 18:28:23 -0400 (EDT) From: padme@bantha.org (Beanish) To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Selected episodes (Vericon) Message-Id: <20000916222823.84EFA66CA0@bantha.org> So, I've been asked to help schedule a con viewing room. This is for the first-ever Harvard science fiction convention, Vericon. http://www.vericon.org/. This convention is aimed at the organizers' fellow college students, and I expect it will have a high (but not overwhelming) proportion of gamers. IOW, the demographics don't indicate a lot of familiarity with Blake's 7. We'll have a movie viewing room, an anime viewing room, and the one I'm focusing on, the classic SF TV room. So, what 2 - 4 episodes would you show to a newbie, not necessarily to hook them or introduce them to the series, but to give them a bit of Blake's 7 flavor in this context? Or, if you prefer, below is what my draft to the head honcho of viewing rooms currently says. Comments? A few of them stand alone enough to be shown out of context. Time Squad, Seek-Locate-Destroy, Aftermath and Powerplay all introduce new characters, so they have enough exposition for newbies without dragging. Cygnus Alpha, Mission to Destiny, Shadow, Horizon, Countdown, The Keeper, Star One, City at the Edge of the World, Rumours of Death, Terminal, Sand and Orbit might also suit. If we did two-episode chunks I'd recommend slightly different episodes to take advantage of continuity (Orac/Redemption and Rescue/Power come to mind), and 3-episode selections I'd do by spacing out episodes from throughout the series. You may *not* show the finale. :) Help me narrow this down, or suggest something glaring I've missed. I'm admittedly Avon-centric in my view of the series, so please correct for that if it's needed. Is Way Back/Space Fall compelling viewing on its own? Would Terminal thru Power or any other three-episode sequence be a good movie-like chunk of the show? (I'm also trying to select a few Doctor Who, Red Dwarf, Prisoner, Avengers episodes. If you've got any suggestions for those, please contact me off-list, thanks. I'm full of Doctor Who ideas, but not so sure on the others. Though it's hard to go wrong with Red Dwarf or Rigg-era Avengers, as far as I know.) Thanks! Claudia -- "Reality is a dangerous concept." Dr. Havant, Blake's 7 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 22:47:00 GMT From: predatrix@ntlworld.com (Predatrix) To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] I love 1978 Message-ID: <39c8f398.38638158@smtp.ntlworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 22:04:36 +0100, Julia wrote: >All right, how many of the UK 30 and 40 somethings spent the last hour >reliving their youth? Me, me, me! Ah, innocence...takes my mind off my boyfriend's computer troubles (he is swearing at a computer he is trying to set up for his dad), and also off the story I am writing (nobody on this driven-snow lyst wd understand it, it's all about Avon doing something Truly Disgusting with futuristic technology, yes we're back in EF land again...). Wasn't Jackie P wonderful! And isn't Gareth still gorgeous even older? One learned all sorts of interesting things about the things that were about in 1978. Computer games? Well, if you were in the mood for computer games you had the choice of a round plastic thing called Simon which--wait for it--*produced atonal beeps* every time you asked it a question, or going down the pub to watch an inscrutable Japanese's bright idea: Space Invaders, in which alien battle-fleets slid slowly down a screen in wobbly lines. Oh, the thrills! Doom and Duke3D eat your heart out! Mind you, the inscrutable Japanese only got past the perfectly-scrutable level three, and preferred to rake in the yen while other people played it. New indescribably tacky plastic things? Well, there was the SodaStream, which apparently was the ultimate status symbol for kids but which produced fountains of absolutely unpalatable sticky fizzy liquids. (I seem to remember loads of tacky plastic things on '70s adverts). Shows about superheroes? Anyone else remember WonderWoman, who, as feminist icons go, took the radical new step of, er, not actually not doing very much. I seem to recall that she waved her arms around in case of disaster so that she caught the Evil Villains' bullets on her jewellery. On the other hand, this show revealed that The Incredible Hulk was green for no very good reason at all, thus shattering the dreams of any number of pagans and scholarly mythologists ("Drat. That's the thesis on Jack i' the Green and modern popular culture down the drain."). All in all, a thoroughly entertaining time. Cheers, ("...retro-chic 'r' us...") Pred'x ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 23:54:10 +0100 From: Tavia Chalcraft To: 'Lysator mailing list' Subject: Re: [B7L] I love 1978 Message-ID: <01C02039.7131FCE0.tavia@btinternet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Julia and Predatrix: >>All right, how many of the UK 30 and 40 somethings spent the last hour >>reliving their youth? > Me, me, me! And me. >Wasn't Jackie P wonderful! And isn't Gareth still gorgeous even older? Yes yes yes. Tavia --When the fire and the rose are one ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 19:03:42 EDT From: JEB31538@cs.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: Midsummer's Night Dream--review Message-ID: <18.25e6fa2.26f5564e@cs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Julia said: > After the show I was lucky enough to have the chance to meet THE Gareth > Thomas and he is just as I imagined him to be. Though he seemed very > surprised to see me approaching him, from the loud and big performance he > had just given he seemed humble and a lovely kind man, .... Thank you, Julia, for the words about the play and Gareth. : ) Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 01:20:57 +0100 From: "Neil Faulkner" To: "b7" Subject: Re: [B7L] Vote B7 [was Re: BFI poll] Message-ID: <008101c0203e$10099ae0$e535fea9@neilfaulkner> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Tavia Chalcraft > And that is one thing I have never been able to understand: what > is it about Blake's Seven that inspires my absolute loyalty (I voted for > it), without necessarily making me think it great television? I've had 22 years to think about this and I still can't honestly say I'm sure. The best I can come up with is: - not too many aliens. - the Establishment are the Bad Guys. - the Good Guys aren't much better. - Cally (with entirely dishonourable intentions). - they all die in the end. - the Bad Guys win. Basically, B7 had a kick-ass attitude that still seems unique. It had a very British shabbiness (and I don't mean the sets, costumes, SFX etc). If the characters were important it wasn't so much for who they were, but the type of people they were. Neil ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 17:24:58 -0700 From: Helen Krummenacker To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: creation of man and Auronar Message-ID: <39C40F5A.5DA@jps.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Neil objected to the Alien creation theory > But that could only work if the Extremely Advanced Race (TM) were themselves > of Earth origin. Were, in fact, humans themselves. We humans were not > created, at least not by highly advanced aliens*. We evolved, from a > primate line unique to this planet. I must say that is a compelling arguement. But perhaps the Advanced Aliens didn't like the stubborn streak of Homo Erectus or Homo Neanderthalis, and tinkered a bit to create Homo Sapiens and Homo Auronar. By forunate coincidence the primate line they started working from had enough physical similarity to them they wanted to work from it. Not that the humanoid form is superior, only that it was pleasing to them. (By the same token, it is much easier to get humans interested in saving species that are mammalian than reptilian-- we have ideas about what is 'cute' or 'noble' in nature) The Advanced Aliens would have engineered into the mind something that makes most people accept a more dominant force-- and I'm sure I saw a study that showed the human mind has a section that is connected with belief in religion or 'belief' in general. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 21:46:25 -0600 From: "Ellynne G." To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] creation of man and Auronar Message-ID: <20000916.214627.-121803.0.rilliara@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 17:24:58 -0700 Helen Krummenacker writes: > Neil objected to the Alien creation theory > > But that could only work if the Extremely Advanced Race (TM) were > themselves > > of Earth origin. Were, in fact, humans themselves. We humans > were not > > created, at least not by highly advanced aliens*. As the one who more or less came up with this theory, my idea was that you had a bunch of advanced aliens who came into this neck of the galaxy and discovered earth and found humans to be a fairly useful species by their standards ('intelligent menials,' etc). The Terran branch of homo sapiens, in my theory, probably _weren't_ messed with too much, the idea of preserving some of a wild strain in its natural environment and all that. Besides their servants, they also experimented with groups of humans they transplanted to different worlds. In some cases, humans may have only been there as a side element of whatever was being done - an adaptable, multipurpose species that could be slipped in to help take care of various tasks, fill an ecological niche, and so on. In other cases, they were the experiment in question. Hence, the different human branches could represent anything from extremely altered creations to ones barely distinguishable from the Earth variety. Eventually, the aliens got bored and moved on. I'm not sure whether the story I was working on that this was a part of would be better served by them having any intention of ever coming back or not - although it seems like a logical development, all things considered. > > I must say that is a compelling arguement. But perhaps the Advanced > Aliens didn't like the stubborn streak of Homo Erectus or Homo > Neanderthalis, and tinkered a bit to create Homo Sapiens and Homo > Auronar. By forunate coincidence the primate line they started > working > from had enough physical similarity to them they wanted to work from > it. Now, this is an interesting idea I hadn't thought of. It might be an interesting idea for the aliens to have helped create the human species. Hmm, I'll have to think about this. As for the humanoid appearance, it's true that the aliens shown in Sarcophagus were fairly similar to human, though not completely. They had metallic skin and enough wardrobe that other differences could have been hidden. The alien with the ring (for lack of a better name) was probably pretty close to human, but part of that may have been copying Cally's form in general. For my purposes, I'm going to push the bounds of convergent evolution, emphasize the ways in which they _didn't_ resemble humans, and point out that the general resemblance was part of the appeal. Getting back to Helen's idea about them altering homo erectus and Neanderthals, it should be pointed out that we're significantly different from Cro-Magnon man (although most of that has to do with us being smaller). Tie that in with that crab in Japan that has a face like a samurai (because of a local legend, crabs with a masklike back are set free, this went on until you had a breed that _really_ looked like samurai masks on the back) as an example of odd resemblances being successfully bred for under even primitive conditions, and I think it just holds water. The Advanced Aliens would have engineered into the mind something > that > makes most people accept a more dominant force-- and I'm sure I saw > a > study that showed the human mind has a section that is connected > with > belief in religion or 'belief' in general. > Actually (getting into another of those lengthy side theories), I had an idea how the tendency to worship was innate in most humans but the aliens used it. If I'd been able to fit it into the story, it would have been a chance for a philosophical comments on the side along with a general overview of true egotists at work. As J'Kar on Babylon 5 said, everyone looks to something greater than themselves even if it's only chance. What says the most about people perhaps isn't that we worship but what we worship. Take the common SF treatment where a being of great power is worshipped (at least until the batteries run out). So, in this scenario, _power_ is worshipped (often quite understandably). In many mythologies, you run into gods of war, lust, life, death, music, and who knows what else (I know part of this was also 1) holding in awe the powers that ruled your life and 2) trying to influence them, but that's outside the area of this post). So, part of what says a lot about a person or a culture is _what_ do they consider worthy of worship? But that's getting into the side issue of why the Thaarn took a liking to the Aurons. As far as his people go, it's important to know they disdained being gods. If a group of humans worshipped something, then that was something to manipulate them through, by offering or withholding it. To be a god, however, a being that might care whether humans worshipped it or that might grant a prayer because a human asked for it and not because it served their own, personal selfish interests was beneath contempt. They no more cared to be gods than a dog trainer cares to be a doggie snack (quite apart from the fate of most doggie snacks), regardless of how dogs and mortals regard them. Gods, things worshipped, were a tool for manipulating lesser beings. I even had the idea for a title, "The Gods, Our Slaves." I liked the double meaning when it was said outloud, too, but it didn't happen. One of the ways in which his people considered the Thaarn hopelessly retrograde is that he actually began to slip into that role (and, yes, it opened up a few ethical issues for exploration since it gave him something bigger than himself [ie, something worshipped] that he cared about). OTOH, he's still the villain. Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 00:10:48 -0400 From: dixonm@pobox.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] I love 1978 Message-ID: <5sf8ssco2bbgbbmmndi677qcqm1k309qlm@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Well, if you were in the mood for computer games you had the choice of a round plastic thing called Simon which--wait for it--*produced atonal beeps* every time you asked >it a question Huh? No, it didn't; nothing of the sort. At least over here, a Simon was a round plastic thing that played memory-test games. It was divided into four colored quadrants, each of which was a push-button, and each of which was associated with a particular tone. (The sounds emitted were more "beepish" than not, but they weren't atonal, insofar as I understand that term -- you could hum them. Of course, I don't have perfect pitch, either. They sounded a lot like touch-tone telephone beeps.) In the basic game, the Simon would begin by flashing a light in a quadrant and sounding the associated tone. The player was then supposed to respond by pressing the quadrant which had just flashed/beeped. The quadrant the player selected would flash and beep as it was being pressed. If the correct quadrant was chosen, the Simon would repeat its first flash/beep and add a second flash/beep. The player would then press the quadrants in order. This would continue for round after round, with the Simon repeating the whole sequence and adding a new flash/beep each time. After the sequence reached a certain length, the Simon would speed up, flashing and beeping faster. If an incorrect quadrant was chosen at any point, the game was over. The Simon game also played three variants of the basic game (you selected which version you would be playing by pressing a quadrant at power-up). One was a competitive game in which two players competed simultaneously against the same Simon; another was a game in which two players played against each other, each player adding a flash/beep rather than the Simon doing so, and I don't know what the fourth one was. I never had a brand-name Simon, but I racked up many, many, *many* hours on a cheap clone of the Simon, Pocket Repeat, which I believe is still sold by Radio Shack. It also had four choices, but they only reflected whether the sequence would start at one or at a higher number of flash/beeps. I still play my Pocket Repeat to this day, but I have gotten rather out of practice and I can now do no more than ten to twelve flash/beeps. In my prime as a bored teenager, I could do thirty or even forty. >Space Invaders, in which alien battle-fleets slid slowly down a screen in wobbly lines They didn't slide, they marched, to a drumbeat. And they weren't that slow after the first few screens, either. I'll have you know I *loved* Space Invaders, though I don't think it reached the U.S. till 1980; that's when I played it. You have to realize that nothing like it had ever been in existence before. I sank a totally ridiculous number of quarters into that thing. >Well, there was the SodaStream That must have been a UK thing. The big hit in the U.S. in 1978 was Pet Rocks. -- Meredith Dixon Check out *Raven Days*, for victims and survivors of bullying. And for those who want to help. http://www.pobox.com/~dixonm/raven.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 07:46:29 +0100 From: "Una McCormack" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] I love 1978 Message-ID: <043e01c02078$11cc4d20$0d01a8c0@codex> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pred wrote: > One learned all sorts of interesting things about the things that were about in 1978. Don't forget Top Trumps, which pretty much define my childhood. Best of all, I had superhero Top Trumps, which was certainly better than tractors. > Shows about superheroes? Anyone else remember WonderWoman, Matthew showed a remarkable amount of knowledge about Wonder Woman. I can't think why. Una ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 19:31:58 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Cc: Freedom City Subject: [B7L] Caption contest Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII The winner of caption contest 4 is Emma Peel! Caption 6 is now up and running (and we'll still take late entries for number 5.) Come and tell us what Blake, Jenna and Vila were *really* discussing in that holding cell. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org ) Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 09:59:40 +0100 From: "Alison Page" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] creation of man and Auronar Message-ID: <00be01c02087$1887ca40$ca8edec2@pre-installedco> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Human anthropology is one of my interests, so I'm following this discussion with avid attention. Ursula Le Guin has a very long standing 'AU' that most of her books fall into, which is of the same type as the versions Neil and Ellyne and others are discussing. She developed it in the 1960s before molecular biology advanced as far as it now has. It's interesting how she had to change it as science refuted her premises one by one. At first the theory was that the 'Hainish' (who are humanoid) colonised a bunch of planets, and left the results of their genetic and social experiments all over the galaxy. Their experiment on earth was to leave their offspring on a world that already had humanoids. Who were then wiped out by our ancestors. But that theory doesn't work any more, because we know we have earth DNA. She has dodged that by saying the Hainish used their superior technology to tweak earth DNA to produce offspring that looked and thought like them. Which is OK, but doesn't work for B7, because of Cally's organ compatibility with humans. And that leaves only one possibility IMHO, which is that humans were taken from earth in the far distant past, and put onto other planets. It's worth noting that you'd have to take the whole ecosystem too, so that there would be food the transplanted humans could digest. If you want to write a story where humans go to a planet and find human-looking inhabitants, with food they can eat, and people they can mate with (cf Star Trek) then that's the only back-story that makes sense. The most usual trick is to posit some alien race who wanted to make use of humans. They have obviously gone to a lot of trouble, so we must have been very useful to them. I would say that use was not as tractable servants. I was thinking perhaps mercenaries, or explorers of dangerous environments. That would explain why we are so aggressive and inquisitive. The other possibility is that earth civilisation has risen and fallen many times, and colonised the stars, only to lose the knowledge. So why no remains to be found? Perhaps they used a technology without metals, perhaps a biological technology. Or perhaps we are the first wave of human colonisers, and we will be destroyed, and Blakes 7 is set a million years in the future. Alison ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 09:53:38 +0100 From: Julia Jones To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Cc: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] I love 1978 Message-ID: In message <043e01c02078$11cc4d20$0d01a8c0@codex>, Una McCormack writes >Matthew showed a remarkable amount of knowledge about Wonder Woman. I can't >think why. How about Hot Gossip? I found it quite... interesting... watching them now that I'm of an age to appreciate them *properly*. -- Julia Jones "Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!" The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 00:31:29 +0200 From: Steve Kilbane To: Julia Jones Cc: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] I love 1978 Message-Id: <200009162331.AAA24606@whitecrow.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > All right, how many of the UK 30 and 40 somethings spent the last hour > reliving their youth? (two sets of hands waved over here) It got five minutes' worth, too, which is not bad. And since last week's had Saturday Night Fever as the themed film, we decided to watch Star Wars last week instead (as it should have been). So we've just finished The Empire Strikes Back Again. ObB7? Well, TESB has got Michael Sheard in it... steve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 12:03:42 +0100 From: "David A McIntee" To: Subject: [B7L] Guy De Carnac CD (on topic) Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thought you'd like to know I'm definitely doing a Guy de Carnac (my character from Sanctuary) audio drama to be recorded by BBV next year. It's a sort of Cadfael meets The X Files, and on a B7 note I've got them to put Steven Pacey in the frame for the title role. Though I picked him because of the radio Childhood's End, not because of his role as Tarrant! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 12:00:04 +0100 From: "Una McCormack" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] I love 1978 Message-ID: <049201c02096$c2dc88f0$0d01a8c0@codex> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Julia: > In message <043e01c02078$11cc4d20$0d01a8c0@codex>, Una McCormack research.connectfree.co.uk> writes > >Matthew showed a remarkable amount of knowledge about Wonder Woman. I can't > >think why. > > How about Hot Gossip? I found it quite... interesting... watching them > now that I'm of an age to appreciate them *properly*. Well, we were mostly surprised to learn that Ian didn't know Sarah Brightman was in Hot Gossip. And then we were staggered at just how bad 'I Lost My Heart to a Starship Trooper' was. Memory is kind. Una ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 08:31:37 EDT From: Bizarro7@aol.com To: freedom-city@blakes-7.org, blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Many more rare & out-of-print B7 zines added to auction Message-ID: <54.9722e0f.26f613a9@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stop by at: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/ashton7/ The ongoing clean-out of fanzines from our collection continues. With very few exceptions, only one copy of each of these rarities is being offered, so get your shot in now because there won't be another from this particular source. Remember that registration to bid on eBay is free and easy. Good luck! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 13:40:23 +0100 From: "Una McCormack" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Guy De Carnac CD (on topic) Message-ID: <04a401c020a4$74971e40$0d01a8c0@codex> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David: > Thought you'd like to know I'm definitely doing a Guy de Carnac (my > character from Sanctuary) audio drama to be recorded by BBV next year. It's > a sort of Cadfael meets The X Files, and on a B7 note I've got them to put > Steven Pacey in the frame for the title role. Sounds cool, David. Congratulations! Una ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 15:00:00 +0100 From: "Claire Robinson" To: "Blakes7" Subject: [B7L] I Love 1978 Message-ID: <011801c020af$93dbe000$491d6cd5@crobinson> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0115_01C020B7.F405D1E0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0115_01C020B7.F405D1E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can anyone tell me the names of as many B7 episodes as possible that = were featured on 'I Love 1978'? As I was watching, I only recognised a = couple - even though I have at least half the series on video! =20 Thanks. Claire ------=_NextPart_000_0115_01C020B7.F405D1E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Can anyone tell me the names of as many B7 episodes = as=20 possible that were featured on 'I Love 1978'?  As I was watching, I = only=20 recognised a couple - even though I have at least half the series on=20 video! 
 
Thanks.
 
Claire
------=_NextPart_000_0115_01C020B7.F405D1E0-- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 07:15:40 -0700 From: "Ann Basart" To: "Blake's7" , "Harriet Monkhouse" <101637.2064@compuserve.com> Subject: Beautiful voices (was Re: [B7L] Vote B7 [was Re: BFI poll]) Message-ID: <006801c020b1$c43239a0$63790fd8@flp1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com said: > And am I the only person in the world who thinks Dennis Potter had the most > beautiful speaking voice ever heard on British television? Hmm, it is smooth as honey and very rich. My favorite was and probably always will be Alec Guinness in "Tinker, Tailor" and "Smiley's People." Gareth Thomas and Paul Darrow are (IMO) not bad to listen to, however. BTW, long ago someone on the Lyst (sorry I can't remember who) put out the idea that a recording of Shakepeare's Sonnets by Thomas & Darrow would be lovely. This idea has stayed with me and I wonder how or if we might revive it? Who out there is interested? Cheers, Ann abasart@dnai.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 07:31:19 -0700 From: mistral@centurytel.net To: B7 List Subject: Re: Beautiful voices (was Re: [B7L] Vote B7 [was Re: BFI poll]) Message-ID: <39C4D5B6.5644529D@centurytel.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ann Basart wrote: > BTW, long ago someone on the Lyst (sorry I can't remember who) put out the > idea that a recording of Shakepeare's Sonnets by Thomas & Darrow would be > lovely. > This idea has stayed with me and I wonder how or if we might revive it? Who > out there is interested? Oh, that was just me, dreaming aloud. I fancy I could wear out several copies; I know I'd listen to it more than to the Together Again tapes. They'd make nice Christmas presents for non-B7 fans, too. What I particularly want is PD reading "In faith, I do not love thee with mine eyes..." and (my personal favorite) "Canst thou, O cruel! say I love thee not..." As to the rest, any old Sonnets will do ;-) IIRC, Judith P. said that the person to talk to was Sheelagh Wells, and that the obvious difficulty was that it might not be financially viable. Though given the fan demographic, I don't see why it couldn't be, particularly if we put some effort into promoting it in Shakespeare circles as well as just B7 fandom. I would think they could go in bookshops as well. Does anyone know how many tapes on average have sold of the Together Again series? Or how many are in a first run? Oh, darn, Ann, you've got me dreaming again... Mistral -- Art is moral passion married to entertainment. Moral passion without entertainment is propaganda, and entertainment without moral passion is television.--Rita Mae Brown ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 16:14:05 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: Re: [B7L] Midsummer Nights Dream - Review Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Sun 17 Sep, DragonFly wrote: > After the show I was lucky enough to have the chance to meet THE Gareth > Thomas and he is just as I imagined him to be. Though he seemed very > surprised to see me approaching him, from the loud and big performance he > had just given he seemed humble and a lovely kind man, he cam out wearing a > green jacket and a flat cap.- He is just the chap I wish I had as a > neighbour! That's the Gareth I know and love. Nearly a month until I get to see the plays - I'm getting itchy feel already. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org ) Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 14:00:09 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: Re: [B7L] creation of man and Auronar Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Sun 17 Sep, Alison Page wrote: > And that leaves only one possibility IMHO, which is that humans were taken > from earth in the far distant past, and put onto other planets. It's worth > noting that you'd have to take the whole ecosystem too, so that there would > be food the transplanted humans could digest. "Can humans eat buddlea?" Judith asks with interest. We know it to exist on virtually every planet in the known galaxy . > The most usual trick is to posit some alien race who wanted to make use of > humans. They have obviously gone to a lot of trouble, so we must have been > very useful to them. I would say that use was not as tractable servants. I > was thinking perhaps mercenaries, or explorers of dangerous environments. > That would explain why we are so aggressive and inquisitive. Depends on culture and upbringing to a large extent. Slavery has been pretty widespread through large chunks of our history. > > The other possibility is that earth civilisation has risen and fallen many > times, and colonised the stars, only to lose the knowledge. So why no > remains to be found? Perhaps they used a technology without metals, perhaps > a biological technology. Sounds like potential for a wonderful epic novel there. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org ) Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 18:18:51 +0100 From: "Una McCormack" To: "Blake's7" Subject: Re: Beautiful voices (was Re: [B7L] Vote B7 [was Re: BFI poll]) Message-ID: <04cc01c020cb$61994b20$0d01a8c0@codex> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ann Basart > Hmm, it is smooth as honey and very rich. My favorite was and probably > always will be Alec Guinness in "Tinker, Tailor" and "Smiley's People." Gosh, I watched this just yesterday. Voice is wonderful. Una ------------------------------ Date: 17 Sep 2000 19:37:58 +0200 From: Calle Dybedahl To: "Claire Robinson" Cc: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] I Love 1978 Message-ID: <8666nu2a2x.fsf@tezcatlipoca.algonet.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>>>> "Claire" == Claire Robinson writes: > Can anyone tell me the names of as many B7 episodes as possible that > were featured on 'I Love 1978'? As I was watching, I only recognised > a couple - even though I have at least half the series on video! I think some kind of congratulations are in order here. Not only have you disregarded the recommendation in the FAQ and posted HTML-crap to the list, in doing so you've also sent a virus to over 300 people! That is, as far as I can remember, a first in the history of this list. Those of you out there who insist on using Microsoft products for your mailreading, and who aren't using up-to-date third-party scanners to alleviate MS' suicidal security policies, are quite likely infected with a virus by the time you read this. No, there's nothing I can do about it. -- Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se "Last week was a nightmare, never to be repeated - until this week" -- Tom, a.s.r ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 10:41:53 -0700 From: "Ann Basart" To: "Blake's7" , Subject: [B7L] Re: Beautiful voices Message-ID: <001301c020ce$93481360$27790fd8@flp1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I wrote: [Mistral] put out the idea that a recording of Shakepeare's Sonnets by Thomas & Darrow would be lovely. And she replied: > I fancy I could wear out several copies; I know I'd listen to it more than to the Together Again tapes. They'd make nice Christmas presents for non-B7 fans, too. . . Judith P. said that the person to talk to was Sheelagh Wells, and that the obvious difficulty was that it might not be financially viable. Though given the fan demographic, I don't see why it couldn't be, particularly if we put some effort into promoting it in Shakespeare circles as well as just B7 fandom. < Well, who else might be interested???? What could I do to help? It's such a wonderful idea. Ann abasart@dnai.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 18:55:23 +-100 From: Louise Rutter To: 'B7 Lysator' Subject: RE: [B7L] I Love 1978 Message-ID: <01C020D8.DAA14240@host213-1-159-242.btinternet.com> Calle wrote: >Those of you out there who insist on using Microsoft products for your >mailreading, and who aren't using up-to-date third-party scanners to >alleviate MS' suicidal security policies, are quite likely infected >with a virus by the time you read this. Just in case it isn't clear to some people, if you read the plain text message in the opened e-mail and ignored the attatchment, no problem. Anyone who opened the attatchment and got the html duplicate of Claire's message has a virus. Louise -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V00 Issue #261 **************************************