From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V00 #40 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume00/40 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 00 : Issue 40 Today's Topics: Fwd: [B7L] Re: blakes7 magazines [B7L] Avon's Leathers... FW: [B7L] Servalan's Manipulations [B7L] Going away [B7L] The surrender [B7L] Rights (and mistake) Re: [B7L] Re: PGPs Re: [B7L] The surrender [B7L] J. Kel's "Pattern of Infinity" Re: [B7L] spread the word [B7L] Fanfare Re: [B7L] Fanfare Re: [B7L] spread the word [B7L] credit cards Re: [B7L] Avon's Leathers... Re: [B7L] Avon's Leathers... Re: [B7L] fanzines by credit card [B7L] Spoilers ? [B7L] Avon's Leathers... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:53:29 EST From: Prmolloy@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Fwd: [B7L] Re: blakes7 magazines Message-ID: <10.aeb946.25d49b69@aol.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_10.aeb946.25d49b69_boundary" --part1_10.aeb946.25d49b69_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_10.aeb946.25d49b69_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-yd03.mx.aol.com (rly-yd03.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.3]) by air-yd02.mail.aol.com (v67_b1.24) with ESMTP; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:36:00 1900 Received: from samantha.lysator.liu.se (samantha.lysator.liu.se [130.236.254.202]) by rly-yd03.mx.aol.com (v67_b1.24) with ESMTP; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:35:52 -0500 Received: (from list@localhost) by samantha.lysator.liu.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA16293; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 21:30:06 +0100 (MET) Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 21:30:06 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: samantha.lysator.liu.se: list set sender to blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se using -f From: Prmolloy@aol.com Message-ID: <9c.19871c8.25d47997@aol.com> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:29:11 EST Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: blakes7 magazines To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 45 Resent-Message-ID: <"M34Si.A.h-D.M_xo4"@samantha.lysator.liu.se> Resent-From: blakes7@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/22961 X-Loop: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Precedence: list Resent-Sender: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se Hi, I'm a new member of the list. I might be interested in the magazines, but don't know much about them. I'm in the States, and got access to B7 only through PBS which edited the darn shows and confused me totally until I started seeing the unedited versions through the video. Trish --part1_10.aeb946.25d49b69_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 00:34:28 -0000 From: "Andy Hopkinson" To: Subject: [B7L] Avon's Leathers... Message-ID: <000601bf7427$c136bdc0$79e82ac2@andyrh> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > lisbeth wrote: > >Wasn't it this list which was dinged for lack of merchandise > information? I consider it my humble duty to point out that e-bay > has a teleport bracelet... i hope i haven't broken any rules > here- i don't recall reading that merchandise mention was off limits. :) > > Not at all - but what we *really* want to hear about is the leather > Avon/Tarrant tunic you've snagged from e-bay, the one replete with > silver studs - (except for that single one missing - yeah, that one, > with the teeth marks all about it). What, oh what, the list talks about > endlessly, could have inspired Avon to give his favoirite tunic to > Tarrant? What *could* have Tarrant done for him to deserve that gift? > And who, oh who, exactly was it that bit off the missing stud? The stud > missing from that vital spot; you know, *that* place, that I could only > exactly geo*graphic*ally identify on *the other list*. What do you mean Pat "snagged from the ebay" ? I've got the original here, had it for years... Bye the way, it does have a stud missing... First one to guess where correctly, gets to rub there hands over it... :) A few more interesting/boring facts about the said leather top, are that it is actually very dark midnight blue leather and it appears that young Tarrant didn't have Avon size shoulders, as if you look on the inside there's a pair of shoulder pads made from the front tabard of Avon's red leather outfit. The red leathers exist, both (very tight) trousers and jacket, I've had the two costumes together, the pads and the red leathers match perfectly, both colour and quilting.. Sorry if this is a bit boring... I've got another seven Avon costumes here if anyone wants to know anymore interesting/boring facts... I was the person who organized the Exhibition at Deliverance 98, I managed to get together over 85 costumes, and many of the original models and props from the show. I used to work at the BBC Visual Effects Department and still have many friends who worked on the show, so if you want to get any more information on the above, let me know. Andy. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:55:35 +1100 From: Andrew Williams To: "'blakes7@lysator.liu.se'" Subject: FW: [B7L] Servalan's Manipulations Message-ID: <4103E830BB67D211877400A0247B635E15ECD2@daikin_aust.daikin.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain > Ellynne wrote: > > The only problem seems to be the things Servalan _didn't_ use them for. > > >What if _Servalan_ wasn't the one manipulating them? Who else could it > have been? > It was MIND; yes - good old-fashioned Machine Induced Neural Deviance. Heh. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:54:58 EST From: "J MacQueen" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Going away Message-ID: <20000211015459.13024.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Am about to remove self from Lyst and spinlist for a couple of weeks (no Web access for Hotmail during this time, worse luck). Enjoy yourselves! Take care Joanne (spending the afternoon tying up loose ends at work...) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 18:46:53 -0700 From: Helen Krummenacker To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] The surrender Message-ID: <38A36A0D.37BD@jps.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > The question came up why, in ep 1, Blake's friends peacefully surrender, > even though they know what's happened to other peacefully surrendering > types. > > 2) Going out with dignity--if you're surrounded and unarmed, some > pretence of acting on your own terms, even if it changes nothing, may be > preferable. > Interesting possibility, and just goes to show how different people view things differently. I would define dignity, or at least pride, in that situation, to be picking up even a pebble to try to jam a gun with a lucky throw. To dive forward, in the hopes that the troopers would aim too many guns on me and be distracted from the others, who might find an escape. I can hardly imagine anything that would strike me as less dignified than going to my death passively. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 18:56:07 -0700 From: Helen Krummenacker To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Rights (and mistake) Message-ID: <38A36C37.4D24@jps.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Avona wrote: > > > It's really all perspective, isn't it? A Federation citizen would be > > overwhelmed by the amount of freedom we have, coming as they > > would from a society where there is no leisure transportation, they > > couldn't change residences without permission, where the strong > > implication is they can't even choose their own careers. Nope. Wasn't me. I think it was Mistral replying to me? --Avona ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 00:17:08 -0700 From: "Ellynne G." To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: PGPs Message-ID: <20000211.001715.-135207.1.Rilliara@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Christina wrote: > me, as > long as Blake is still alive :-) > Funny, Blake is the only one I can't see surviving. It's nothing against him. The emotional impact of that final scene was just too much to invalidate it. OTOH, I see Avon surviving simply because I see him as _having_ to deal with the emotional aftermath of this (what? you want to let him off _easy_?). That's one of the reasons I really liked Kathryn's story "Winning is the Only Safety" since it shows an Avon who _can't_ die and escape from what he did. Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 00:09:54 -0700 From: "Ellynne G." To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] The surrender Message-ID: <20000211.001715.-135207.0.Rilliara@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 18:46:53 -0700 Helen Krummenacker writes: > > > > The question came up why, in ep 1, Blake's friends peacefully > surrender, > > even though they know what's happened to other peacefully > surrendering > > types. > > > > 2) Going out with dignity--if you're surrounded and unarmed, some > > pretence of acting on your own terms, even if it changes nothing, > may be > > preferable. > > > Interesting possibility, and just goes to show how different people > view > things differently. I would define dignity, or at least pride, in > that > situation, to be picking up even a pebble to try to jam a gun with a > lucky throw. To dive forward, in the hopes that the troopers would > aim > too many guns on me and be distracted from the others, who might > find an > escape. I can hardly imagine anything that would strike me as less > dignified than going to my death passively. > Personally, I'm inclined to going down fighting, but if they saw this as psychologically taking away something these Federation guards thought they could get from them, I could see the point. Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 01:18:44 -0800 From: "Sarah Thompson" To: Cc: Subject: [B7L] J. Kel's "Pattern of Infinity" Message-ID: <000e01bf7472$734a34c0$cea8cdcf@y1i7s9> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The url for the B7 Fan Fiction Archive, where you'll find J. Kel's "Pattern of Infinity" and lots of other goodies, is: POI is in the section for "Series E." I've now finished it, and wow! I really like it! If you crave a looong juicy gen story, this one's for you. It's a full fifth series of 13 episodes, each one of which is at least novella length. At one per night, which I found was about right for me given that I'm currently employed :), that's nearly two weeks of reading pleasure. It's too bad about the similarity in title to Ana Dorfstad's story in =Enarrare=; I hope that won't cause confusion. Both stories are very long, IMO very good PGPs, starring Avon, that also bring back lots of characters and concepts from earlier episodes; but the resemblance ends there. They are very different in feel. If I had to compare the two, I might say that Ana Dorfstad's story is more geared toward emotional effect, though it also has a clever plot; while J. Kel's is more of an "idea" story, though with very moving emotional content as well. The archive notes describe J. Kel's POI as "lyrical," and I agree. I can't think of many other examples of fan fiction that I can really compare it to, but I wonder whether perhaps the author is an Arthur C. Clarke fan. In a way this story reminds me of some of Clarke's early, visionary works, things like =Childhood's End= and "The Nine Billion Names of God." What? you ask. So, does J. Kel destroy the Earth, maybe even the universe, in an apocalyptic B7 story? Well... yes and no. It's hard to explain. Read it and see. And to think that I thought "The Chameleons" was hard to describe without giving spoilers! This is even more difficult, but I'll try to give some idea of what it's like. The story opens seven years after GP, in chilly Servalan City (formerly known as "Kalgerry," Canadians will be amused to note). Lord Avon has become the lover and second-in-command of supreme ruler Servalan. On her orders, he confers with the scientist Geir, who has observed strange phenomena associated with the artificial planet Terminal. He also meets a young Auron man, Mykal Hodos, Geir's assistant. Mykal tells Avon that Cally had another sister who is still alive, Molli, a Songmaster, who now seems to be receiving telepathic messages from Cally herself, via Terminal. We also learn that Servalan remains obsessed with the Auronaar, and not just from guilt; Avon feels, however, that she should be more concerned about the sinister, enigmatic alien civilization that inhabits the object known as the Black Shield (the source of the plague in "Killer," a modified version of which was used by Servalan on Auron). In Episode II, we meet Molli herself, in the company of-- Jenna! Over the next several episodes, Molli, Avon, and Mykal escape from Servalan with Jenna's help, and make their way first to Kaarn, aka New Auron, where they discover an incredibly powerful new technology guarded by an embittered, none-too-sane man; and then to Lindor, where they again meet President Sarkoff and his daughter Tyce, still resisting the Federation against increasingly poor odds. At the end of Episode VI, tragedy strikes; some of the characters are recaptured by Servalan, and some die. (This was the last part of the series to be published on paper, back in 1993, leaving those of us who had been following the story in great suspense!) However, thanks to the mysterious Entity associated with Terminal, death is not necessarily final for anyone who has visited the artificial planet. In the second half of the novel, not only Avon and Jenna but also Vila, Dayna, Tarrant, and Cally play prominent roles, with Blake himself appearing briefly. In fact, the only regular characters from the original show who do =not= reappear are Gan, Soolin, and Travis-- oh, and Slave, if you count the AIs (and we probably should, since both Orac and Zen feature in the story-- yes, the Liberator, or at least =a= Liberator, returns). Avon is the central character, but many of the others are featured as well; Vila in particular becomes a major hero toward the end, performing some crucial actions. By the end there have been some amazing escapes and adventures. I particularly like the vividly described raid on a Federation concentration camp in the Arctic, to rescue some very important prisoners, in Episode XI (Tarrant stars in this section). Meanwhile, the Lindorean fleet prepares to attack Earth; and a terrible threat is hanging over the entire human race, throughout the galaxy, as Servalan out-Travises Travis in her plans for a Final Act. All the plot elements are neatly pulled together, and every episode ends with a startling revelation or cliffhanger. At this point I couldn't stop reading, and I stayed up much too late in order to finish the entire story and find out what happens! I'm happy to say that the ending did not disappoint. The mystery of Terminal, the threat of the Black Shield, the promise of the new technology, and revelations about Servalan's background and the nature of her relationship with Avon are all neatly and satisfactorily dealt with. The end is a very B7ish combination of triumph and tragedy. Overall I rate this story very highly. My one complaint is that, even though I know it has gone through at least two drafts by the author plus editing by friends, I think it needs one more proofreading (to fix things like "it's" for "its") and very light copy edit (to make a few little changes like "flight deck" for "bridge"). Maybe this can be done before the story appears in a hard copy version, as I very much hope it will. There are also some small formatting problems, such as the occasional skipped line; but none of these minor gripes detracted significantly from my enjoyment. In general the writing style manages to be clear and straightforward, but at the same time poetic. There are occasional experiments in stylistic variation: sudden shifts in POV or tense, a few dialogues in script-like form, etc. I sometimes find that sort of thing annoying, but here I didn't mind, perhaps because I was so caught up in the story. I also like the quotes from various famous writers at the beginning of each episode, which IMO are wonderfully apt and which also provide the evocative episode titles. At the same time, the hard science is good and hard, and the author clearly knows what he's talking about; no bafflegab here, but some fascinating extrapolations. I can't think of any other B7 fan story that deals so well with Big Ideas of the science fictional kind. How I'd love to see a film version, with the actors as they were ten years ago, and a big budget for suitably spectacular special effects! Highly recommended, and I'll be very interested to hear what others think of it. Sarah T. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 14:19:42 -0000 From: "Julie Horner" To: "Judith Proctor" , "Lysator List" Subject: Re: [B7L] spread the word Message-ID: <000d01bf749b$0b2525c0$4f97bc3e@orac> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Judith Proctor" > Having spoken to the local B7 fans last night, I discovered > that only one of them knew about the repeats > Please, get out there and encourage the BBC to publicise > the repeats or a whole load of old fans and all the possible > new fans are going to miss our favourite > show. Right. I just mailed "Live and Kicking" (the Saturday morning kids show) requesting that they ask their viewers to point out to their parents that the show is being repeated. Well you can but try and it might be one way of interesting a new generation. Any other ideas? Julie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:34:11 -0000 From: "Una McCormack" To: "lysator" Cc: "Freedom City" Subject: [B7L] Fanfare Message-ID: <00d901bf74a5$76d77200$0d01a8c0@hedge> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The BBC cult TV site has managed a tiny wee mention of B7 on it's (steady now, don't shoot the messenger) Dr Who pages. They seem to think it's some sort of spin-off show Screw up your eyes real tight now: http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/news/index.shtml Una ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:42:41 -0500 From: Meredith Dixon To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Fanfare Message-ID: <93i8as0h86u1eolb1aqnat6dk23e8pjl0e@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:34:11 -0000, you wrote: >The BBC cult TV site has managed a tiny wee mention of B7 on it's (steady >now, don't shoot the messenger) Dr Who pages. They seem to think it's some >sort of spin-off show > >Screw up your eyes real tight now: >http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/news/index.shtml "Innumerable connections with *Dr. Who*?!?" That makes about as much sense as saying that *Star Trek* (TOS) has innumerable connections with *Have Gun, Will Travel*. After all, Gene Roddenberry wrote quite a few scripts for HGWT, a lot of the people who worked on HGWT went on to work on ST, and DeForrest Kelley played a villain in one of the episodes. None of which changes the fact that HGWT is a Western and that Paladin is nothing like James T. Kirk. :) -- Meredith Dixon Check out *Raven Days*, for victims and survivors of bullying. And for those who want to help. http://web.mountain.net/~dixonm/raven.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 14:38:18 +0000 (GMT) From: Judith Proctor To: Julie Horner cc: Lysator List Subject: Re: [B7L] spread the word Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Fri 11 Feb, Julie Horner wrote: > From: "Judith Proctor" > > > Having spoken to the local B7 fans last night, I discovered > > that only one of them knew about the repeats > > > Please, get out there and encourage the BBC to publicise > > the repeats or a whole load of old fans and all the possible > > new fans are going to miss our favourite > > show. > > Right. I just mailed "Live and Kicking" (the Saturday morning > kids show) requesting that they ask their viewers to point out > to their parents that the show is being repeated. Well you can > but try and it might be one way of interesting a new generation. Good idea. I'm trying the publicity people and the BBC website and I've written to Radio Times. I imagine the more people that write, the more likely they are to take notice, though I'd always make sure that letters are friendly and polite. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.nas.com/~lknight ) Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:03:26 +0000 (GMT) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List cc: Freedom City Subject: [B7L] credit cards Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII I'm told there's a discussion going on about credit cards... Our credit card application has just been approved by the bank. In a couple of weeks we should have the software up and running to be able to take credit card payments in pounds, Aus $, US$, Deutschmarks and Euros. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.nas.com/~lknight ) Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 19:28:01 +0000 From: Julia Jones To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Cc: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon's Leathers... Message-ID: In message <000601bf7427$c136bdc0$79e82ac2@andyrh>, Andy Hopkinson writes >The red leathers exist, both (very tight) trousers and jacket, I've had the >two costumes together, the pads and the red leathers match perfectly, both >colour and quilting.. All right, I will go ahead and ask the utterly predictable question - are the trousers padded, or was that really all Darrow? > >Sorry if this is a bit boring... >I've got another seven Avon costumes here if anyone wants to know anymore >interesting/boring facts... Go on, go on... Seriously, details on costuming and props are of interest not just to the utterly obsessed, but to fanfic writers who want to get the details right, and costumers. The Exhibition Catalogue is certainly useful, but a detailed costume manual would be a jolly nice thing (smiles sweetly). > >I was the person who organized the Exhibition at Deliverance 98, I managed >to get together over 85 costumes, and many of the original models and props >from the show. And a jolly good job you did of it, too. -- Julia Jones "Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!" The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:50:27 EST From: Prmolloy@aol.com To: julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk, blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon's Leathers... Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit n message <000601bf7427$c136bdc0$79e82ac2@andyrh>, Andy Hopkinson writes >The red leathers exist, both (very tight) trousers and jacket, I've had the >two costumes together, the pads and the red leathers match perfectly, both >colour and quilting.. All right, I will go ahead and ask the utterly predictable question - are the trousers padded, or was that really all Darrow? Inquiring minds want to know! > >Sorry if this is a bit boring... >I've got another seven Avon costumes here if anyone wants to know anymore >interesting/boring facts... Go on, go on... Seriously, details on costuming and props are of interest not just to the utterly obsessed, but to fanfic writers who want to get the details right, and costumers. The Exhibition Catalogue is certainly useful, but a detailed costume manual would be a jolly nice thing (smiles sweetly). > >I was the person who organized the Exhibition at Deliverance 98, I managed >to get together over 85 costumes, and many of the original models and props >from the show. And a jolly good job you did of it, too. -- Julia Jones "Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!" The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc05.mx.aol.com (rly-yc05.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.37]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v67_b1.24) with ESMTP; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:48:41 -0500 Received: from samantha.lysator.liu.se (samantha.lysator.liu.se [130.236.254.202]) by rly-yc05.mx.aol.com (v67_b1.24) with ESMTP; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:48:26 -0500 Received: (from list@localhost) by samantha.lysator.liu.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA22304; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 22:47:10 +0100 (MET) Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 22:47:10 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: samantha.lysator.liu.se: list set sender to blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se using -f Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 19:28:01 +0000 Cc: blakes7@lysator.liu.se From: Julia Jones Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon's Leathers... References: <000601bf7427$c136bdc0$79e82ac2@andyrh> In-Reply-To: <000601bf7427$c136bdc0$79e82ac2@andyrh> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 U Resent-Message-ID: <"lQ88CB.A.ccF.dNIp4"@samantha.lysator.liu.se> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Resent-From: blakes7@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/22985 X-Loop: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Precedence: list Resent-Sender: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 21:52:57 +0000 From: Julia Jones To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Cc: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] fanzines by credit card Message-ID: In message , Julia Jones writes >Linda Knight's website is at > >http://www.nas.com/~lknight/index.html > >and is now stocking nearly 1000 zines in over 50 fandoms - and takes >credit card orders. Just to add a vital detail - at the moment Linda can only take orders by credit card for payment in US dollars, so if you choose another currency option you won't be offered the credit card facility. There's nothing to stop people outside the US ordering in US dollars with their card of course, it just means they won't know exactly how much it will cost them until they get the statement showing the exchange rate used by their bank that day. Judith's about to have credit card facilities (it will take a couple of weeks to get it up and running), and this will be in available in several currencies. -- Julia Jones "Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!" The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 21:55:02 -0000 From: "Andrew Ellis" To: "Lysator List" Subject: [B7L] Spoilers ? Message-ID: <011c01bf74da$a763eea0$bf42063e@leanet.futures.bt.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>all the possible >> new fans > >Right. I just mailed "Live and Kicking" (the Saturday morning >kids show) requesting that they ask their viewers to point out >to their parents that the show is being repeated. Well you can >but try and it might be one way of interesting a new generation. > Just a thought, please feel free to shoot it down without a thought, but given a desire to get new people watching, anybody else think it might be a good idea to try and avoid obvious spoilers. Just thought I'd mention it. Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:04:32 PST From: "Sally Manton" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Avon's Leathers... Message-ID: <20000212000433.60631.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Andy wrote: Sorry if this is a bit boring...> as if thinking about *those* leather trousers could ever be boring... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V00 Issue #40 *************************************