From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V00 #42 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume00/42 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 00 : Issue 42 Today's Topics: [B7L] Re: FC: Lysator hiccup Re: [B7L] Fwd: Re:FC:Cukt TV [B7L] Audience ratings [B7L] More coverage Re: [B7L] More coverage [B7L] Grand Opening Re: [B7L] Travis' Gear... [B7L] adult archive trouble [B7L] The Strangerers [B7L] gallery [B7L] prize purchase [B7L] Re: FC: Grand Opening [B7L] Avon's Leathers Re: [B7L] The surrender [B7L] The repeat [B7L] Steven Pacey sighting [B7L] Shakespeare meet 5/2/00 Re: Re: [B7L] The surrender ------------------------------ Date: 13 Feb 2000 22:58:32 +0100 From: Calle Dybedahl To: freedom-city@blakes-7.org, Lysator List Subject: [B7L] Re: FC: Lysator hiccup Message-ID: <86d7q0epdj.fsf@tezcatlipoca.algonet.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>>>> "Robert" == Robert Baskerville writes: > Calle writes (from a backup mail account!): Actually, it's the account I always send from these days, only this time I didn't masquerade it since I wanted replies to go back there. > If someone's wondering why the Lysator mailing list is utterly silent, > it's because they're moving everything over to a new disk server. It > was supposed to be finished sometime yesterday, and they keep saying > that they'll be ready "in a few hours". It'll be back eventually. And "eventually" turned ut to be about half an hour after I sent Robert that note. Of course. In theory, anything sent to the list during the downtime should be appearing during the next handful of hours. We'll see what happens with that. -- Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se This posting is protected by a Whizzo Brand Fnord Filter (TM). ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 07:28:34 -0000 From: "Jakx" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Fwd: Re:FC:Cukt TV Message-ID: <003401bf752a$c6337300$3f5b883e@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pardon me, but which onelist? I`d like to read that letter. I belong to other onelist groups, so I know the routine about joining etc. Many thanks. Jakx ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolan To: Sent: 06 February 2000 15:19 Subject: [B7L] Fwd: Re:FC:Cukt TV > Steve Rogerson said, > > "Though it's sad that Paul will no longer be at Cult > TV, I can't help thinking about what the work > committment is for late October that he knows about > already. Could it be he's got the green light (ie the > money) for the B7 film?" > > Cukt TV....is that Klingon TV, Steve > Sorry to disappoint you,it isn't the B7 film. Paul's > Corporate Entertainment company has got a booking. His > letter to Cult TV is on file at their Onelist and > available to members, so nosey old me just had to > look. > > Carolan > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 22:55:35 -0000 From: "Una McCormack" To: "lysator" Cc: "Freedom City" Subject: [B7L] Audience ratings Message-ID: <036701bf7675$727e3c30$0d01a8c0@hedge> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit By happy chance, this week is one of the weeks where I fill in those audience appreciation forms for BARB, so I was able to make it clear that B7 was the high point of my week and how much of an effort I'd made to watch it. Una ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 22:59:38 -0000 From: "Una McCormack" To: "lysator" Cc: "Freedom City" Subject: [B7L] More coverage Message-ID: <036f01bf7676$06a999e0$0d01a8c0@hedge> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A gentle stroll around the Internet this evening meant I found the rather nice write up at the Radio Times website: http://www.radiotimes.com/servlet/controller?action=programmeDetails&pid=285 2356&cid=14 For those of you who can't be arsed to go there: "Did you just choke? Yes, Blake's 7 is back on terrestrial TV for the first time in at least a decade. This opening episode is a bit tough going but has much more substance than your average science fiction show and you need to see this to really enjoy the rest of the run. Poor sets, dreadful effects, but such great characters, superb stories and dialogue that will make you applaud, Blake's back." A bit tough on 'The Way Back', I think. Una ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 23:41:59 +0000 From: Julia Jones To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Cc: lysator , Freedom City Subject: Re: [B7L] More coverage Message-ID: In message <036f01bf7676$06a999e0$0d01a8c0@hedge>, Una McCormack writes Thanks for that. >A bit tough on 'The Way Back', I think. Oh, go on, they did mark it as one of the day's choices. > And the version for this morning's showing on UK Gold: Classic 70s sci-fi adventure series. In a future in which the population lives in a domed city presided over by the Federation, loyal citizen Blake is branded an outlaw for venturing outside the city limits. What he discovers there marks the start of a nightmare that contradicts everything he knows. Aboard the spaceship Liberator, Blake and his followers take on the might of the Federation and its ruthless leader Servalan. which is what was in the printed Radio Times, IIRC. The blurb for Space Fall, which is on at 4:15, not 4:05: Sci-fi adventure series about an outlaw whose only crime was to stumble on the dark secret of the ruling Federation. En route for Cygnus Alpha with a group of fellow prisoners, Blake decides he has no intention of spending the rest of his life as a convict on a penal planet. -- Julia Jones "Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!" The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 15:51:50 +0000 (GMT) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Cc: Freedom City Subject: [B7L] Grand Opening Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII The new Blake's 7 gallery has been opened today in celebration of the BBC repeat of Blake's 7. I'm delighted to say that we persuaded Gareth Thomas (Blake) to formally open it for us. Come along to http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7/Gallery/index.html and see him cutting the ribbon in person. Judith PS. I'm still off-list, but the fingers are improving and I hope to be back before too long. -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.nas.com/~lknight ) Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 11:59:17 -0000 From: "Una McCormack" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Travis' Gear... Message-ID: <031801bf7551$4148bcf0$0d01a8c0@hedge> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Penny / Andy: > > Avon is all well and fine, but what I think the world (and when I say 'the > > world' I mean 'me') *really* wants to know is whatever became of Travis' > > groovy gear. T-II I mean of course. The corrugated uniform. The > > fabuloriffic boots. I certainly hope they are in good hands... > > > Hmm... not good! > > The cosy in question got quite badly cut up during Travis' last scenes. > First of all, there was a great big hole blown in it for the effect when he > is shot by Blake. > Then poor old (young) Brian had to wear a harness underneath the skin tight > jumpsuit, hoisted up on wires, and spun like a wind chime (there was no > other way, but to slash holes into the costume for the wires to come > through, and this was done in a hurry as there was not much recording time > left). > If you look carefully you can see the large gapping holes as he spins. Christ, I can hear Penny hyperventilating from here... Una ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 12:37:09 EST From: Tigerm1019@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] adult archive trouble Message-ID: <69.124ac85.25d99745@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I talked to the archivist of "B7 Dreams," and she checked the link from the gen story archive to the adult stories several times. Most of the time, it was fine, but one time the server was busy and she got bumped to a different server which *was* a commercial adult site with popups, etc. That's likely what happened on Friday night. The archivist has contacted the host about the problem, and hopefully they will be able to do something about it. Tiger M ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 19:31:25 +0000 (GMT) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List cc: Freedom City Subject: [B7L] The Strangerers Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Courtesy of a preview tape from Sky 1, we have some pictures of Gareth Thomas in The Strangerers. There's a link from the top page of http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Having just watched the first episode, I have to say that it looks as though it's going to be a love it or hate it show. It all depends on your sense of humour. If you like the idea of aliens who have learnt all they know about Earth from old TV shows and movies, then you're laughing. These aliens are not just incompetent, they're totally incompetent - they aren't used to human bodies... It's essentially an SF sitcom, not surprising as the main person behind it is Rob Grant of Red Dwarf fame. The first episode airs on Sky 1 tomorrow (Tuesday). Paul Darrow isn't in the first episode, but will be in later ones. JUdith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.nas.com/~lknight ) Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 20:04:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Cc: Freedom City Subject: [B7L] gallery Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII There are complaints coming in from the gallery staff that people keep on entering the offices. The rooms are marked 'private'. Please respect them. We apologise to the relatives of the gentleman who failed to return from the sub-basement, but we must point out that we in no way accept liability for anything that happens to our visitors. Entry to the exhibitions is entirely at your own risk. -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.nas.com/~lknight ) Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 14:35:18 +0000 From: Steve Rogerson To: Lysator Subject: [B7L] prize purchase Message-ID: <38A6C0FA.8AC4A6B8@mcr1.poptel.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was at a sci-fi fair in Basildon today, wondering around buying the odd comic and video, when I spotted it, high on a shelf behind one of the dealers tables - a Corgi Liberator still in its original packaging. The prized item is now on the chair behind me having cost me 45 pound; I had given up hope of ever finding one in the original packaging, or at least at a price I could manage, so I'm now dead chuffed. -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson "In my world, there are people in chains and you can ride them like ponies" The alternative Willow, Buffy the Vampire Slayer ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 19:08:46 +0000 (GMT) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: [B7L] Re: FC: Grand Opening Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Sun 13 Feb, Mac4781@aol.com wrote: > I should have been suspicious when I couldn't get into the Crew Room. Now > that I've been in it, however, I don't think it was the early hour of my > visit that had it closed. Someone had the door locked while they were > swiping the Cally art! > > All right, fess up, who did it? It was Travis, I'm afraid. Used his rank to get past the security. The head curator has had a word with him and I believe the pictures are now being restored. > > Judith, are you back on the list or should I be ccing this to you? Maybe I > better cc. Still off-list. Thanks for the cc, Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.nas.com/~lknight ) Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 12:28:48 -0800 From: Pat Patera To: B7 Lysator Subject: [B7L] Avon's Leathers Message-ID: <38A5C280.4A057CCE@netzero.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy wrote: >Bye the way, it does have a stud missing... >First one to guess where correctly, gets to rub there hands over it... :) (pant drool) ok, I guess: top corner, just at the L-turn. (I don't recall seeing any studs where I want to ru .... never mind) >A few more interesting/boring facts about the said leather top, are that it >is actually very dark midnight blue leather and it appears that young >Tarrant didn't have Avon size shoulders, Never send a boy to wear a man's leathers >The red leathers exist, both (very tight) trousers and jacket, (oh catch me I'm going to faint) > Sorry if this is a bit boring... ack! is the sea full of holes? >I've got another seven Avon costumes here if anyone wants to know anymore >interesting/boring facts... Why did Avon get put in that silly silver broil-in-bag top for so many episodes? It was so at odds with the look and feel of the other costumes. What was it made of? Aluminum or polyester or ? What became of the red leather suit Cally first appeared in? Why was she never shown in it again? Whose ideas was it to put her in that ridiculous brightly spotted cat coat to go skulking about in the forest to contact Sarkoff? Why was Avon reduced to a single costume 4th season? And the rest of the crew likewise? Why did Avon only get black studs while the others got grey coveralls? >I was the person who organized the Exhibition at Deliverance 98, I managed >to get together over 85 costumes, wow. even Servie's gowns? (tinged green with envy) Pat __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:23:30 -0700 From: "Ellynne G." To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] The surrender Message-ID: <20000214.102354.-260845.0.Rilliara@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 00:09:54 -0700 "Ellynne G." writes: > > > On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 18:46:53 -0700 Helen Krummenacker > > writes: > > > > > > The question came up why, in ep 1, Blake's friends peacefully > > surrender, > > > even though they know what's happened to other peacefully > > surrendering > > > types. > > > > > > 2) Going out with dignity > > > > > Interesting possibility, and just goes to show how different > people > > view > > things differently. I would define dignity, or at least pride, in > > that > > situation, to be picking up even a pebble to try to jam a gun with > a > > lucky throw. > > > Personally, I'm inclined to going down fighting, but if they saw > this as > psychologically taking away something these Federation guards > thought > they could get from them, I could see the point. > I was looking that over and decided I needed to state my case a little more strongly. First, let me say that, if I were to make an argument, I still see trying to help Blake as the one that makes the most sense. I also think these people had a screaming need for lessons in how to have an underground movement (decent lookouts and an evacuation plan would have helped). This aside, here are some reasons they might have surrendered peacefully even though they had good cause to expect death. 1) A strong nonviolent/religious philosophy (like the Amish or Quakers) that held violence was never justified. This would be interesting to the 'Blake did it for revenge' argument since it means Blake was acting in defiance of his original beliefs and the beliefs of many of his supporters. 2) Belief that violence was not justified in certain circumstances or from certain people (Martin Luther King and the Civil Rights Movement, there's also the example of people from a certain warrior oriented culture a few centuries back who converted to Christianity. Believing much of what they had done previously to be borderline unforgiveable, they swore never to do violence against anyone again - and were willing to die rather than violate that oath. OTOH, they saw this as part of their _own_ repentance. A generation later, they made great sacrifices to support sons of theirs who fought in a defensive war). 3) Belief that nonviolence could have long term effects furthering their goals. This could be connected to the above. It could also (especially if any present were exFederation troopers) be based on knowing how troopers dehumanized their enemies and justified their acts. _Belief_ that anyone they slaughtered was just a potential enemy who would do the same to them, given the opportunity, may have been part of this. Hence, the guard who supported Travis' actions in Trial put it directly in context of battle situations--although it _didn't_ happen in battle conditions! OTOH, those who opposed what Travis had done (which included a good many officers and civilians who presumeably supported things like the bomb on Albion) put it in terms of his having massacred nonviolent civilians. If this were the case (especially if any present were ex-military), they might have chosen this because, even though they still died, they knew how it might shake the guards doing it. This argument works best if they saw anyone else they came in contact with as a potential joiner of their cause. In that case, making a strong arguement - even if they had to die doing it - might outweigh putting up a fight for their lives. Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 16:59:15 +0000 From: Julia Jones To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] The repeat Message-ID: Broadcast quality PAL, with only a little age damage to the tapes. No ads. No cutting to make room for ads. Paradise. Even an INTx can bounce with the right incentive. Wheee! -- Julia Jones "Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!" The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 07:36:42 EST From: Mac4781@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se, freedom-city@blakes-7.org Subject: [B7L] Steven Pacey sighting Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was browsing the Radio 4 schedule and just found the following listed for today: 6:15pm Heart and Soul As Valentine's Day approaches, a revue celebrating the art of love with Christopher Luscombe and Malcolm McKee. Also featuring Steven Pacey, Dillie Keane and Cathy Sara. Carol Mc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 20:37:38 +0000 From: Julia Jones To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Cc: Judith Proctor Subject: [B7L] Shakespeare meet 5/2/00 Message-ID: A longer version in two parts was originally posted to The Other List. This one's had the more explicit drooling removed. Five go to Edinburgh (and meet a sixth). All in honour of Gareth playing Sir Toby Belch in Shakespeare's Twelfth Night. This being a weekend trip, we got in some other cultural activities as well. First up was the National Gallery, this being a couple of hundred yards from the main train station in Edinburgh, free, and in possession of a free place to leave luggage, hence an excellent meeting point for diverse and sundry Lystians. I dragged my Luggage (well, it doesn't have hundreds of dear little legs, but in other ways behaves much like the real life item that inspired Pterry) over, and found a nearly silent Judith hanging over the railings outside, attempting to attract my attention. This was somewhat difficult, given that at the moment her version of a shout is being able to speak at something approximating half the decibel level of a normal speaking tone. We wandered inside, and were shortly joined by Chris-from-Middlesbrough and Janet. Edinburgh resident Katharine also joined us, although she couldn't stay long, being otherwise engaged for much of the weekend. Some ten minutes later, and still no sign of Chris-from-Germany. Judith went off to look inside the gallery, just in case, and I braved the winter winds whistling through the door every time it was opened, and removed my jumper and positioned myself opposite the front entrance where pretty much the first thing anyone coming into the gallery would see was a Redemption teeshirt. The first person to stop and examine the teeshirt was greeted with "Are you Chris?". She was, so we found Judith, and wandered in to admire some culture. Judith and I had been to the gallery on our previous trip to see The Clearing, and dragged the others over to view our favourite bronze - The Wrestlers. Beautiful little bronze copy of Ye Ancient Piece of Marble Sculpture. The gallery shop does not have photos of any of the bronzes . I noted the artist and title so that I can go on a hunt for photos. A pleasant hour or two spent in the gallery, affording Judith and I the opportunity to look at some of the rooms we'd missed on the first time around. Some stunning art, but my favourites this time were a pair of paintings depicting the quarrel between Oberon and Titania, and their reconciliation, from A Midsummer Night's Dream. One of those works where the more you look at it, the more you see, little tiny pictures within pictures within pictures. I bought a print of one of them the next day. Off to the station to catch the train to Musselburgh - or in Chris and Janet's case, wave to it as it left the station. Musselburgh station does not have a taxi rank. It does have an information board that includes a contact number for taxis. It does not have a public telephone. I have a company-issue mobile phone, which I had brought with me just in case - thank god. We got there in time to have a quick chat with Gareth before the show. He told us a bit more about the play he's doing in Salisbury next month - Equus. Sounds well worthwhile, and I'll be going if I get the opportunity. And on to the play itself. Quick plot summary - twins Viola and Sebastian are shipwrecked, coming to shore some distant apart and each believing the other to be dead. Viola disguises herself as a man for protection, and takes service in the household of the Duke, Orsino. Orsino is smitten with love for Olivia, who is in mourning for her brother, and will consider no suit from any man. Orsino sends his new manservant to plead on his behalf. Complications ensue when Olivia falls in love with "Cesario", who in turn is in love with the Duke... Olivia is also the object of love from both her steward Malvolio, and the knight Sir Andrew. Her drunken uncle Sir Toby Belch (played by Gareth) has his own reasons for meddling in these affairs of the heart. Life gets even more complicated when Sebastian turns up in town, as he and Viola are identical in appearance, and various people mistake them for each other. Amongst other things, he sees no reason to run away when some wealthy lady sweeps him up and insists on marrying him:-) It mostly gets sorted out in the end, but there are some dark undertones for all that it's one of the comedies. It's been put into a modern setting, placing it in a fashion house owned by Olivia. This works extremely well, apart from one tiny hiccup at the end. Amongst other things, it allows a modern audience to instantly identify the personalities, the status people have, and the power structures, something that the audience in Shakespeare's time would have been able to do from what was to them contemporary clothing. This starts with the very first scene, when Orsino enters by climbing out of his private swimming pool and going over to lie on his sun lounger, clad in nothing but swimming trunks. Nicely done, using a ladder in the orchestra pit, and lighting to make it look like a pool. It's quite obvious that this is a wealthy man of leisure. The place of the musician(s) playing in the background in the original setting is now taken by a ghetto-blaster by the sun lounger, the first of several wonderful touches in translating into a modern setting without losing any of the meaning. Orsino's main costume is a white teeshirt with a band of studs running diagonally across the front, and a pair of black leather trousers. Very tight black leather trousers. Expensive clothing giving the impression of a wealthy man. The play is very much an ensemble piece, with most of the roles having a fair amount of stage time. Most of the acting was excellent, my personal favourite (besides Gareth, of course) being Maria, Olivia's chambermaid. She is superb, and the actress (Vicki Lidelle) manages to make a Scottish accent sound right in the role. The only slight disappointments were Sebastian, who was a little weak compared with the others (the actor is still at drama acadamy, and fairly inexperienced, so didn't do too badly considering), and the initial scenes with Orsino. Unfortunately a Scottish accent was not quite the right thing for that role - it plays merry hell with the cadences of the poetry. The language has changed, of course, and a lot of the jokes were unintelligible to a modern audience not equipped with a study guide. This was partly made up for by the use of sight gags, such as Sir Toby pissing in the flowerpot. With his back to the audience, ladies, so settle down. The best one of these for me was the scene where a forged love letter is left in the garden for Malvolio to find. In the original, Toby, Sir Andrew and Fabian hide in the boxtree to watch. In this version, they hide behind a rack of clothing from the design rooms. Malvolio strolls about the stage while reading his letter, blissfully oblivious to the fact that the clothes rail has sprouted three pairs of eyes and is following him about the stage. The three conspirators duck behind the rail every time Malvolio turns around, then peer over again. There is also effective use of body language to convey some of what is going on. Most of the cast use this, but the actor playing Malvolio (Kern Falconer) is superb. He only had to look down his nose at Toby and Andrew to have the audience collapsed in hysterics. Gareth's first appearance is early, in the third scene. Sir Toby Belch, uncle to Olivia, is a drunkard with an occasionally nasty sense of humour, and a talent for using people. He is currently using Sir Andrew as a source of finance for his drinking binges, which is why he is encouraging Sir Andrew's pursuit of Olivia. He frequently appears on stage with a bottle of red wine clutched in his hand, the level of which drops during the course of the play. Gareth is apparently getting rather fed up with the taste of Ribena, after 2 pints a night:-) It's an excellent performance, with a darker edge running under the buffoonery. Sir Toby is played as the sort of drunk who can seem charming and then turn nasty in a split second, then flip back to being charming. Gareth's size and presence add to the effect. One interesting variation in this version was the way the relationship between Sebastian and Antonio is played. I thought it must be just my filthy imagination, but Judith assured me at the interval that it wasn't. Antonio is the sea-captain who rescues Sebastian after the shipwreck, and there are some fairly passionate speeches about his love for Sebastian. In their first scene, they are sitting on the edge of a bed, both putting their boots on. It's not explicit, but the body language reinforces the impression that they have not just been sleeping. Later, Antonio is arrested by the Duke's men, and marched away in handcuffs, in the belief that Sebastian has denied knowing him. Dark, sullen hunk in handcuffs, betrayed by his lover, and for some reason I thought of Sarah:^) Near the end of the play he gets to stand handcuffed and held by guards, watching as a woman claims to have married his lover - who is now denying both that _and_ knowing Antonio. The one minor problem with the A/S slant put on the performance is that when all is sorted out, and the fact that both Sebastian and Viola survived the shipwreck has explained the various goings on, Antonio then seems to be quite happy to watch as his boyfriend is carried off by Olivia. Other things: I liked the set design. Neat mechanism for indicating scene changes, using a sliding platform on each side to roll out a selection of furniture when required. It's now getting to be a game of "spot the actors we've seen on stage with Gareth before". Two of the other actors had also been in The Clearing, and we think one was in the pantomime at Dundee a couple of years ago, although I can't find my programme to check. It's an excellent production, and a lot of fun. I'd recommend that anyone who has the chance go to see it. Sadly, it's not going on tour - a waste, in my opinion. -- Julia Jones "Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!" The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:50:07 EST From: KKrause658@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: Re: [B7L] The surrender Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ellynne wrote 4 good reasons why they did not fight:: <1) A strong nonviolent/religious philosophy (like the Amish or Quakers) that held violence was never justified. 2) Belief that violence was not justified in certain circumstances or from certain people. 3) Belief that nonviolence could have long term effects furthering their goals. 4) OTOH, those who opposed what Travis had done (which included a good many officers and civilians who presumeably supported things like the bomb on Albion) put it in terms of his having massacred nonviolent civilians. If this were the case (especially if any present were ex-military), they might have chosen this because, even though they still died, they knew how it might shake the guards doing it. > I'm glad you also acknowledged they had a As I said at the beginning, these are very good reasons why they may not have tried to fight. But I keep thinking "Is this any way to run a rebellion?" I'm inclined to buy that they might be trying to help Blake, but this also seems weak. While nonviolence rebellions have succeeded, against something as ruthless as the Federation/Administration I can't see it. But then, maybe it's me.* In that situation, I can't see the reason to give up meekly and die without fighting. One reason why I like this list, there are so many people that seem much nicer than me. Gives me hope for the future. --Karen -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V00 Issue #42 *************************************