From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V00 #49 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume00/49 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 00 : Issue 49 Today's Topics: [B7L] Re: space Fall [B7L] My apologies to everyone [B7L] Re: Aftermath Aficionados Anonymous Re: [B7L] Re: Aftermath Aficionados Anonymous Re: [B7L] Space Fall [B7L] Guada Prime and Servalan Re: [B7L] Servalan or not Servalan? [B7L] Re: Spacefall Re: [B7L] Q-study results: a brief addendum [B7L] The New Blake's 7 Movie Re: [B7L] Re: Space Fall Re: [B7L] Re: Beautiful Suffering Re: [B7L] Re: space Fall Re: [B7L] Servalan or Not Servalan? Re: [B7L] Re: Spacefall [B7L] New Mailing List ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 23:50:02 +0000 From: Steve Rogerson To: Lysator Subject: [B7L] Re: space Fall Message-ID: <38B07D97.651AF045@mcr1.poptel.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Julia Horner wrote: "Knowing my nearest and dearest would pour scorn on me for watching it on TV when I have the full set of videos, I had to pretend that I was outside cleaning the car." I have no explanation of this, I have the full set of videos - twice cos I've got the Fab Films release as well - yet I have watched both episodes so far broadcast. I could, as I have, justify it by saying I want to hear what the commentators say before and afterwards, but I know, when it comes down to it, that's not the whole truth. Yes, I want to hear whart they say, but I have this unexplainable compulsion to watch them being broadcast by the BBC. As an aside to this, I know there is justifyable disgruntalment at the lack of publicity the beeb has given to the repeats, but I am finding a large number of people seem to have spotted it anyway, which makes it more of a pity that the Beeb are already messing around with it by missing next week. I do hope this is not a pattern for things to come and that we will after next week get an uninterrupted run of all the episodes. -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson "In my world, there are people in chains and you can ride them like ponies" The alternative Willow, Buffy the Vampire Slayer ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:09:38 -0500 From: Michael Bailey To: "Blake's 7 Mailing List" Subject: [B7L] My apologies to everyone Message-ID: <38B08240.94555DF@netzero.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi. I want to apologize to everyone for putting an attachment on the list. I thought that the attachments wouldn't be added to the list but just to the other address I was writing to. I'm sorry for any inconvenience... I didn't understand the problems that would occur. Michael __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 16:18:17 -0800 From: Susie Wright To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: Aftermath Aficionados Anonymous Message-ID: <38B08448.6E28E7DA@home.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------91AFF48453679A27877666B1" --------------91AFF48453679A27877666B1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Una, I'm an "Aftermath" Aficionado and I've been one for over 10 years! (applause from fellow confessors...) Mostly for severe drooling reasons, definitely not for the stiff acting by the guest actors and the goofy weapons. Don't you just love that Paul and Jackie would love to do an R-rated version of B7.... as they giggle sinisterly on the interview tapes... All this talk of "Space Fall" makes me long to see it again. I remember really liking Raiker and being disappointed he wasn't going to be part of the series. Those early episodes really kept you guessing as to what was going to happen next and how the show would settle into its regular cast. Has "The Strangerers" premiered yet? > From Sally's email: > > Actually, I have come to the happy decision that Harriet was right in she was cruising some not-too-distant part of the galaxy, tuned in to the > news, screamed 'Oh sh...' and flew straight to Gauda Prime at standard by > maximum> > > > …And crashed into something (a stray asteroid, an even strayer ship – I > know, a DSV no one knew about!) on the way, so she is dead too (well, you > said *everyone*. And Orac had that nice little self-destruct program > Avon installed for Moments Like These, which makes the whole thing nice and > neat. > I like this idea... As for lost episodes... that's where fan fiction come to the rescue! --Susie --------------91AFF48453679A27877666B1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Una,

I'm an "Aftermath" Aficionado and I've been one for over 10 years!  (applause from fellow confessors...)  Mostly for severe drooling reasons, definitely not for the stiff acting by the guest actors and the goofy weapons.  Don't you just love that Paul and Jackie would love to do an R-rated version of B7.... as they giggle sinisterly on the interview tapes...

All this talk of "Space Fall" makes me long to see it again.  I remember really liking Raiker and being disappointed he wasn't going to be part of the series.  Those early episodes really kept you guessing as to what was going to happen next and how the show would settle into its regular cast.

Has "The Strangerers" premiered yet?
  

From Sally's email:
Actually, I have come to the happy decision that Harriet was right in she was cruising some not-too-distant part of the galaxy, tuned in to the 
news, screamed 'Oh sh...' and flew straight to Gauda Prime at standard by 
maximum>


…And crashed into something (a stray asteroid, an even strayer ship – I 
know, a DSV no one knew about!) on the way, so she is dead too (well, you 
said *everyone*. And Orac had that nice little self-destruct program 
Avon installed for Moments Like These, which makes the whole thing nice and 
neat.
I like this idea...

As for lost episodes... that's where fan fiction come to the rescue!

--Susie --------------91AFF48453679A27877666B1-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 00:35:52 -0000 From: "Una McCormack" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Aftermath Aficionados Anonymous Message-ID: <099d01bf7c03$9d774a10$0d01a8c0@hedge> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Susie asked: > Has "The Strangerers" premiered yet? It has indeed. I thought it was rather funny. I don't know how well it'll stand up across a series, but this episode made me laugh out loud quite a bit. Una ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 01:16:29 -0000 From: "S" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Space Fall Message-ID: <035101bf7c09$48e0b8a0$2519883e@andrew> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> Ok, hands up, how many of the Brits were getting an extra kick out of >> knowing they were watching it at the same time as everyone else? I turned down a morning becomming afternoon becomming evening out with friends to get home in time to see it. I got some interesting reactions from my friends Trying to explain to a Canadian that I couldn't go to the cinema because of a 1970s TV programme was very stressful. Still, I don't need access to real life when I have Blake's 7 :-) ~Say ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 18:29:27 -0700 From: Helen Krummenacker To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Guada Prime and Servalan Message-ID: <38B094F7.4441@jps.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, as I said, I'm of the "Servalan was about to turn up" way of thinking, BUT I don't think she was *behind* the disasterous misunderstanding. At best, she figured she'd catch them as they reunited. More likely, she was after Blake *or* Avon and would have been surprised to see the whole rebellion was pretty much wrapped up their. BUT, thanks to her foolishness in thinking she had control of the situation and longing to gloat, she gets shot by Avon, who's finally too far gone to care if her guards kill him or not. The rebels all die, but she dies too. Doesn't solve anything, but ties up the loose ends nice & tidy. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 18:07:28 EST From: "Erica Hayes" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Servalan or not Servalan? Message-ID: <20000221070728.39210.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Michael said: >Well I think Servalan really liked Avon. I think she just had to see >him >before >he died. It's a nice thought - and it makes Servalan a very tragic person if it's true. But I just can't see her being that sentimental. I think that *if* Servalan/Sleer was there - and I don't think she was, at least not yet - but *if* she was there, she wouldn't want to let the Scorpio crew, and especially Avon, get away with dying in such a beautifully humiliating manner without (a) her being there to watch and (b) them knowing who it was who engineered their downfall. It's too perfect a gloat for her to miss. Remember Orbit: "I should like to *see* Avon [when he knows he's about to die]". Given the opportunity, she wouldn't want to miss it. And the chance of personal injury to her was slight, given that Avon was surrounded by armed Fed personnel; even if he did fire, could he have hit her? I doubt it. But I like to think she wasn't there. The whole crew getting killed in what was essentially a stupid accident with nothing whatsoever to do with the big picture is just too delicious an irony to pass up. Erica (recently resubscribed after a two-year interregnum spent in the IMO highly overrated "real world". Makes me smile to see a lot of you still here. No petty obsession, this B7 thing...) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 03:10:45 PST From: "Sally Manton" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: Spacefall Message-ID: <20000221111045.13992.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Susie wrote: Except that thirty seconds into their first dialogue you *knew* exactly who were headed for fireworks on a regular basis…and that Nova was doooooommed. Anyone that chirpy and eager and gormless had to be cannon (okay, foam) fodder before the fifty minutes were up. Can't help thinking (very very breifly) how things would have gone if the palindromic namesakes had got switched – Avon had been moussed to death and Nova had made it onto the Liberator. Probably more peaceful, but Blake would have found life so much *duller* with just Space Command, the Federation and half the galaxy to fight with… ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 13:27:32 +0000 (GMT) From: Iain Coleman To: lysator Subject: Re: [B7L] Q-study results: a brief addendum Message-Id: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, Una McCormack wrote: > Iain/me: > > > Quantitative analysis is so much more satisfying than intuition, isn't it? > > "I'm right, because I've done lots of sums and you haven't! So there! > > Bwahahahaha!" > > Alternatively, '*You* did all those sums to reach a conclusion which *I* > already knew! Bwaha! Bwahahahaha!' > Aargh! Outmaneuvered again! I'm starting to feel like Bercol. Iain ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 10:55:02 -0500 From: Michael Bailey To: "Blake's 7 Mailing List" Subject: [B7L] The New Blake's 7 Movie Message-ID: <38B15FD4.B302D8B6@netzero.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Does anyone know any news about the proposed Blake's 7 movie for the year 2000? Michael __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 16:07:05 -0000 From: "Jonathan Coupe" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Space Fall Message-ID: <000201bf7c86$7fd01b30$5ace883e@ming> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com> To: Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2000 11:49 AM Subject: [B7L] Re: Space Fall > Alison wrote: > >This is how I privately see it (I know nobody else will agree > >but here goes) an 'elder race' of awesome power which no > >longer interacts with the physical world all that much > >nevertheless has 'our' galaxy as its home. > ... > >But now its home is under threat from the Andromedans. So it > > effortlessly marshals the pawns at its disposal to eliminate that threat. > > > Good heavens, you mean it was the Vorlons all along? Were they the gods > who gave the Auronar telepathy? > > Harriet > You know, I think if we substitute "Vogons" for "Vorlons" here we might really be on to something... Jonathan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 17:50:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Iain Coleman To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Beautiful Suffering Message-Id: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, Susie Wright wrote: > And in the next digest... I think I just answered my question.... it relates to Una's > site and the category of Avon's character development she calls "Beautiful Suffering." I > read it a while ago and perhaps it's worth another look to refresh my memory. > Indeed. Al part of my attempt to establish Una's excellent analysis in the collective consciousness. Iain ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 08:00:04 +0000 From: Julia Jones To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Cc: Lysator Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: space Fall Message-ID: In message <38B07D97.651AF045@mcr1.poptel.org.uk>, Steve Rogerson writes >I have no explanation of this, I have the full set of videos - twice cos >I've got the Fab Films release as well - yet I have watched both >episodes so far broadcast. I could, as I have, justify it by saying I >want to hear what the commentators say before and afterwards, but I >know, when it comes down to it, that's not the whole truth. Yes, I want >to hear whart they say, but I have this unexplainable compulsion to >watch them being broadcast by the BBC. That's simple enough - the tapes are VHS, which isn't as good as broadcast quality, and they've been cut in places. That's why I've wanted to see them again on broadcast for years. -- Julia Jones "Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!" The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 13:14:52 -0700 From: "Ellynne G." To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Servalan or Not Servalan? Message-ID: <20000221.132450.-243375.0.Rilliara@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Louise Rutter wrote: > I don't believe Servalan > would be > > stupid enough to walk into the room before Avon was disarmed - not > when all > > his friends had just been shot, and not when he had just shot > Blake. Louise, Louise, Louise, what _are_ we going to do with you? There may be a lot of arguments for why a B7 character would or would not do something but knowing it's suicidally stupid is not one of them. Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 21:24:46 -0000 From: "Andrew Ellis" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Spacefall Message-ID: <003e01bf7cb2$52f9f8c0$479201d5@leanet.futures.bt.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sally said some good stuff, which included..... the palindromic namesakes ....Avon ....and Nova Excellent. I never noticed it. Thanks Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 06:22:50 -0500 From: Michael Bailey To: "Blake's 7 Mailing List" Subject: [B7L] New Mailing List Message-ID: <38B27188.EF03F88D@netzero.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone! I found this new awesome mailing list. It's a onelist.com For more information see: http://www.onelist.com/list/blakes-7 It's still a smaller group but I think it will grow very quickly! Come and join. The address for subscribing is on the web page above. Michael __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V00 Issue #49 *************************************