From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V98 #225 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume98/225 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 225 Today's Topics: [B7L] The ListDad *is* a ListDad Re: [B7L] Re: responses of an "Avon-like" nature [B7L] Re: Speaking of cons [B7L] Re: Neverwhere [B7L] Avon Without Guilt [B7L] Re: "Avon-like" natures [B7L] Re: responses of an "Avon-like" nature Re: [B7L] PNW Alert! - Neverwhere Re: [B7L] Re: "Avon-like" natures [B7L] Parenthood [B7L] Re: Avon Without Guilt [B7L] A damn good guess Re: [B7L] Parenthood [B7L] Re: Avon Without Guilt [B7L] vila ish ;-) [B7L] Rob/Jim re Liberator Re: [B7L] A damn good guess [B7L] The Crucible ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 18:13:12 +0100 From: Julia Jones To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] The ListDad *is* a ListDad Message-ID: The URL for a JPEG of Calle is http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7/Fanclubs/CalleF.jpeg and the link to it is from http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7/Fanclubs/index.html He's also in the Space City group photo at http://www.whitecrow.demon.co.uk/b7/spacecity.html along with a bunch of other familiar names. -- Julia Jones "Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!" The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon. ------------------------------ Date: 30 Aug 1998 22:18:59 +0200 From: Calle Dybedahl To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: responses of an "Avon-like" nature Message-ID: Julia Jones writes: > I would imagine that's why the ListDad was so brusque - he's usually > politer than that. How many times do you expect us to say "please > don't do that" before we stop being polite? Something like that, yes. I try to be fairly polite here, but I do have bad days every now and then. If you want to see me being intentionally nasty, go read comp.lang.perl.misc :-) Or maybe I just wanted to get rid of all this sudden respect and reverence ;-) > Calle, what are the prospects of automailing new subscribers with an > appropriate URL and request to read it? Very easily done. If someone gives me a suitable text to send to new subscribers, I'll put it in the right place. -- Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se Please pay no attention to the panda in the fridge. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 21:23:21 +0100 From: Steve Rogerson To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: Speaking of cons Message-ID: <35E9B4B7.6BF0A8D5@mcr1.poptel.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gregory asked: "What B7/SF cons are coming up in the UK." A good listing of future cons can be found at: http://www.smof.com/conlist.htm There seems to be something on most weekends if you are energetic and/or rich enough. -- cheers Steve Rogerson Redemption 99: The Blakes 7 and Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Ashford, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ "Get in there you big furry oaf, I don't care what you smell" Star Wars ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 22:52:20 +0100 From: Steve Rogerson To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: Neverwhere Message-ID: <35E9C990.FB48FF8B@mcr1.poptel.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cheryl asked: "How many episodes are there to Neverwhere?" Six. I missed it when it was first broadcast but bought the vid in a sale and only got round to watching it recently. It really is very good. -- cheers Steve Rogerson Redemption 99: The Blakes 7 and Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Ashford, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ "Get in there you big furry oaf, I don't care what you smell" Star Wars ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 18:28:15 EDT From: SuzanThoms@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Avon Without Guilt Message-ID: <3f10db31.35e9d1ff@aol.com>> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit << s.thompson8@genie.com wrote: << Maybe it's time to induct some new members into AWG.) >> Count me in. I lust unrepentantly for the snarly, gorgeous gentleman. ;) Suzanne ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 18:34:59 -0400 (EDT) From: brent@ntr.net To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: "Avon-like" natures Message-Id: <199808302234.SAA05009@rome.ntr.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" After careful consideration, I've decided to de-lurk momentarily. Donna asked the question: >Maybe that's a good place to redirect our energies. Which character on B7 >most accurately reflects everyone's personality? Anyone out there who admits >to being Vila-ish? (We promise not to inform the authorities...) No one character reflects me totally. I have the moral imperative of Blake, the leadership of Avon (that is to say, reluctantly. I have to be pushed into leading others since I'm more at home pointing out the folly of those who think they're leaders), the empathy of Cally, the "melt like butter anytime I see a damsel in distress" of Tarrant (at times, I can also be as irritating as Tarrant, too), and sometimes the naivete of Dayna. However, most of the time I feign stupidity like Vila while smiling on the inside, content that everyone else is the fool. ;) Oh, and I must confess that I've never read the netiquette guide, but then, maybe everyone already knew that. Brent ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 20:20:43 -0400 From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com> To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" Subject: [B7L] Re: responses of an "Avon-like" nature Message-ID: <199808302020_MC2-57D4-E639@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Julia wrote re her photo of Calle on Judith's website: >nobody would have sat still for a photo >if I'd switched the anti-redeye feature on, >it works by flashing a light at the vict^H >subject for about three seconds. Getting Calle to sit still for a photo at all was a major achievement. Harriet ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 20:26:14 -0400 From: "Kim F. Holec" To: CHERYL_MARKS@HP-LakeStevens-om2.om.hp.com, blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] PNW Alert! - Neverwhere Message-Id: <199808310021.UAA05263@smtp.america.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" When we saw Neil Gamian at a con a few years back, he brought a rough-cut version of the first episode. It was quite good, even without fx and music, and proper editing. You folks in Seattle are quite lucky to see this! I believe Neil said there were six episodes. There are two novels or novelizations; one is the American version from Avon Books, with American language usage instead of British [why they felt the need for this, I have no clue :) ] ; and a UK edition--I will find out the publishers if you like, or you can check out the newsgroup alt.fan.neil-gaiman and look for a pointer to the FAQ. Good luck, Deidre Kim At 03:07 PM 8/27/98 -0600, CHERYL_MARKS@HP-LakeStevens-om2.om.hp.com wrote: >Folks in the Pacific Northwest (or anyone with a Satellite that can get >KCTS - Seattle's PBS station.) > >They've begun to broadcast a great BBC series called Neverwhere. >Totally engrossing. B7 connection - Sheelaugh Wells did the makeup. > >Appears to be on Tuesday evenings at 10 - however, they may be >repeating the 1st two episodes sometime this weekend. > >Friends across the pond: How many episodes are there to Neverwhere? > >Cheryl > >*************************************************************************** ***** >* >* Cheryl Marks Email: cherylm@lsid.hp.com >* "Some days you're the dog; some days you're the hydrant." -- Unknown >*************************************************************************** ***** >** > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 21:19:33 EDT From: DCsquared@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: "Avon-like" natures Message-ID: <42edd71a.35e9fa25@aol.com>> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Since I asked the question, I'd probably best put in my two cents worth. I wish I could say I am like Jenna (a most excellent heroine IMHO!). I loved her courage, style, ambition, determination, and skill in her area. Actually, I am probably a cross between Vila and Cally. A bit mother hen-ish, protective of those close to me or underdogs of any kind, quick with a joke, and prone to Vila-like blunders when I should have known better. I like my exposure to danger to come from the other side of the TV screen, though I am quite capable of getting my back up if its required to fight injustice (especially in areas close to home). I'm told that I used to be as arrogant as Avon, but my two kids cured me of that. Now I am much slower to make judgments about other people (God forgive me for all the arrogant statements I made about how "my children" would never be as noisy, messy, or annoying as most kids!) And I'm quicker to forgive childish behavior in children and adults both. Kids are excellent teachers of patience - I'm sure that's why I can't visualize Avon with any ;-). Since I can't imagine Avon with kids, it makes him excellent romantic material in my book. I am a devoted member of the Avon Fan Club, and I hereby make an official request to join the Avon Without Guilt Club. I've really enjoyed all the character analysis in these self-evaluations! It's interesting to see how other folks view the personalities of our heros. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Donna Chlouber Keeper of Zen's Wisdom B7 Novice Writer's Group http://members.aol.com/DCsquared/mainframe.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:06:24 +1000 From: vera@c031.aone.net.au To: Subject: [B7L] Parenthood Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980831120624.0098a520@mail01.mel.aone.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Is no-one concerned that our Daddy bears a passing resemblance to Elric? Malissa ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 98 03:03:00 GMT From: s.thompson8@genie.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: Avon Without Guilt Message-Id: <199808310321.DAA24926@rock103.genie.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Jacqueline Thijsen said: >By the way, although Servalan is my favourite character, Avon is a good >second. >Does that qualify me for the Avon Without Guilt club, or is putting Avon in > second place a hanging offence with you guys? Well, it was never all that much of a club-- only about four or five people in the first place! We had buttons (=badges) to wear at conventions, and signs for our doors that said "Unrepentent Avon Fan Within." There were several nice parties at various cons, but AWG activities fell off considerably when our illustrious Founder, Pat Jacquerie, developed medical problems that made it necessary for her to cut down on fanac (including this list, alas, although you can still chat with her on Space City). AWG activities, such as they are, are frequently coordinated with Tarrant Nostra activities-- in fact, most of the AWGers are TN too. So it's definitely OK to like someone else. Especially Servalan, since she had the good taste to be attracted to both Avon and Tarrant. ;) Sarah T. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 20:40:12 PDT From: "Joanne MacQueen" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] A damn good guess Message-ID: <19980831034013.23681.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Hello all. For some reason, I don't know why or how, I've always assumed Calle and Gwynn were males. Calle's gender, I suspect, I guessed because, even now, that level of skill with computer systems tends to be a masculine thing (yes, I know that's changing and will not always be the case). With Gwynn, I don't know what it was that made me think he was definitely male. As for Kathryn bringing up the subject of personality tests - recent results from the Keirsey site suggest that I've settled into something resembling Cally, which I allow is fair enough (given the way I behave normally), but a little disconcerting when I *feel* more like I'm somewhere between Vila 'discretion is the better part of valour, and cowardice is the better part of discretion' Restal and his colleague, Mr "Well now". I hope Gwynn suggesting that he's not unlike Tarrant means that he isn't far too pretty for his own good (no, Carol, put that blunt instrument away and try reason instead - I respond quite well to reason when compared to force). Regards Joanne Please do not throw hands at me. -- D84, "The Robots of Death" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 22:38:50 -0500 From: "Lorna B." To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Parenthood Message-Id: <199808310340.WAA01887@pemberton.magnolia.net> Malissa said: > Is no-one concerned that our Daddy bears a passing resemblance to Elric? As long as he doesn't have a soul-devouring sword, I think we're (relatively) safe. Lorna B. "Cookies and porn? You're the best mom ever!" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 09:25:18 +0100 From: "amanda" To: Subject: [B7L] Re: Avon Without Guilt Message-ID: <01bdd4b8$e337d540$0100007f@default> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_018D_01BDD4C1.44FC3D40" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_018D_01BDD4C1.44FC3D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable what on earth is wrong with liking Avon ????? he is so sweet and nice to everyone ;-) I was just watching Volcano when he wakes up after being shot and finds = its just him and Vila left on board the=20 look on his face is so endering i just want to hug him. amanda amanda-robertson@lineone.net ------=_NextPart_000_018D_01BDD4C1.44FC3D40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
what on earth is = wrong with=20 liking Avon ?????
 
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------=_NextPart_000_018D_01BDD4C1.44FC3D40-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 09:17:44 +0100 From: "amanda" To: Subject: [B7L] vila ish ;-) Message-ID: <01bdd4b7$d4d56360$0100007f@default> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0118_01BDD4C0.3699CB60" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0118_01BDD4C0.3699CB60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think I am more like Vila than the rest when i have to do the my job i = think i am very compatint and good at it ;=20 but in every day life the world just seems to be there to trip me up or = let my happy relaxed nature do it for me I would like to point this out by the fact i am with the others who got = peoples genders wrong by the way they=20 signed their E-mails amanda amanda-robertson@lineone.net ------=_NextPart_000_0118_01BDD4C0.3699CB60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think I am more like Vila than the = rest when=20 i have to do the my job i think i am very compatint and good at it ;=20
 
but in every day life the world just = seems to=20 be there to trip me up or let my happy relaxed nature do it for = me
 
I would like to point this out by = the fact i=20 am with the others who got peoples genders wrong by the way they =
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0118_01BDD4C0.3699CB60-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 19:48:21 +1000 From: Tim Richards & Narrelle Harris To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Rob/Jim re Liberator Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19980831194821.007a4830@wire.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I haven't heard from Jim yet, so if your last bid still stands, you'd better email me quick! If I haven't heard from you by this Friday, the bid will go back to your last offer, Rob. Sorry to take up list space with this, folks - aforementined hard disk crash (which was about as comprehensible as the destruction of the Liberator) lost these guys' addresses. Thanks again, Sarah, for your kind comments. My novel hasn't been picked up by Transworld, but at least now I can prepare it to be sent out again. And if anyone out there suddenly inherits a publishing house, just let me know where to send the bribe.... :-) Narrelle ************************************************* Tim Richards & Narrelle Harris "My wallpaper and I are fighting a duel to the death. One or the other of us has to go." - Oscar Wilde (a month before his death in November 1900) parallax@wire.net.au http://www.wire.net.au/~parallax ************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 09:24:08 -0400 From: ay648@yfn.ysu.edu (Carol A. McCoy) To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] A damn good guess Message-ID: <199808311324.JAA02827@yfn.ysu.edu> Joanne wrote: >I hope Gwynn suggesting that he's not unlike Tarrant means that he isn't >far too pretty for his own good (no, Carol, put that blunt instrument >away and try reason instead - I respond quite well to reason when >compared to force). Thwack! No, just kidding. I consider your ability to recognize that Tarrant is "far too pretty for his own good" to be a good thing. What's not to like about "too pretty"? :) I could wish that more people were too pretty. Pretty over every square inch... Carol Mc (wishing it weren't too late to go to England to see "Things" a couple of dozen more times; only for Tarrant research purposes, of course ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 18:29:49 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List cc: Space City Subject: [B7L] The Crucible Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Having got back from holiday (we took a narrowboat around the Avon ring - stopping off in Stratford Upon Avon for an afternoon to trawl the Royal Shakespeare Company archives for new photos of Gareth Thomas) I figure it's about time that I tried to organise a theatre group. Who else wants to come and see The Crucible in Bromley? Quite apart from Gareth being in it, it's supposed to be a damn good play in its own right. If we get a group of ten or more people, there's a ten percent discount. I've made an arbitary choice of date for Saturday 19 September on the grounds that Saturdays are the only days I can get to Bromley. The theatre is the Churchill theatre in Bromley. The play starts at 7.45 and tickets cost 17, 16 or 12 pounds depending on where your seat is. Seeing as I'm travelling from Dorset to Bromley, I figure I might as well get the 17 pound ticket - this is my Christmas present from last Xmas. If you want to come, let me know what type of ticket you want and if we end up with ten or more, I'll book us as a group. If there's enough of us, maybe we could meet up somewhere before the show and have a drink together. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V98 Issue #225 **************************************