From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V98 #226 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume98/226 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 226 Today's Topics: Re: [B7L] Re: Avon Without Guilt Re: [B7L] "Avon-like" natures Re: [B7L] PNW Alert! - Neverwhere Re: [B7L] "Avon-like" natures Re: [B7L] Re: responses of an "Avon-like" nature Re: [B7L] A damn good guess [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting Re: [B7L] "Avon-like" natures [B7L] REMOVE [B7L] Countdown RE: [B7L] The Crucible Re: [B7L] Re: [B7L] Re: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting Re: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting [B7L] ATTN. Sarah Thompson [B7L] The Crucible Re: [B7L] Countdown [B7L] Just What the World Needs . . . ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 09:19:22 -0700 From: Jay To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Avon Without Guilt Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980831091922.00758494@succeed.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sarah T. wrote: >(I gather that newer Avon fans have been getting some of the same sort of >crap, only in private e-mail. I'm sorry to hear it. Maybe it's time to >induct some new members into AWG.) I haven't received any nasty emails re: Avon, though I haven't been around for a while. I would like to be considered for induction into AWG. Can I please!?! Sounds like a wonderful organization. Jay 100%Avon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap, and much more difficult to find...-- Terry Pratchett's "Sourcery" Visit Sharpe's Seven (a Sean Bean and Blake's 7 site) http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Studio/3612 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 09:19:40 -0700 From: Jay To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] "Avon-like" natures Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980831091940.007585dc@succeed.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Donna wrote: > >Maybe that's a good place to redirect our energies. Which character on B7 >most accurately reflects everyone's personality? Mmmm, I think I'm a cross between Avon, Cally and Vila. I hate having the responsibility of organizing or leading events, but will bitch and moan about the person doing the organizing. I also tend to suppress my emotions, I'm often uncomfortable with letting anyone know how I really feel. Cally comes out in me in that I'm a good listener and friends tend to confide in me (much to my irritation sometimes). And the Vila is that I'm a basically nice person and I just want to get on with my life without anyone bothering me. Jay 100% Avon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap, and much more difficult to find...-- Terry Pratchett's "Sourcery" Visit Sharpe's Seven (a Sean Bean and Blake's 7 site) http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Studio/3612 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:54:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Claudia Marie To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] PNW Alert! - Neverwhere Message-Id: <199808311854.OAA08760@shell1.tiac.net> Pardon me if this has already been said, I'm on the digest these days. "Kim F. Holec" wrote: : When we saw Neil Gamian at a con a few years back, he brought a rough-cut : version of the first episode. It was quite good, even without fx and music, : and proper editing. You folks in Seattle are quite lucky to see this! I : believe Neil said there were six episodes. There are two novels or : novelizations; one is the American version from Avon Books, with American : language usage instead of British [why they felt the need for this, I have : no clue :) ] ; and a UK edition--I will find out the publishers if you : like, or you can check out the newsgroup alt.fan.neil-gaiman and look for : a pointer to the FAQ. I managed to see a copy of a copy of Neverwhere from the last time it aired (also in Seattle, I believe) and quite liked it. Neil Gaiman spoke with Tyler, the owner of the bookstore I work at, recently, and Tyler said Gaiman recommended the American version to him. The American version was done for the reason of explaining London-area references that aren't well-known this side of the pond, but since it was being done, Gaiman decided to give it a proper editing, which he says he was too rushed to do for the original edition. Claudia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:47:45 EDT From: VulcanXYZ@aol.com To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] "Avon-like" natures Message-ID: <54102b6f.35eafde1@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Of all the B7 characters, I think I am most like Cally. I really worry about others (sort of a mother-of-the-whole-world complex) and am very empathetic. However, I can fight for what I believe in fiercely if need be. What a great question! Thanks. I'd like to join the Avon Without Guilt gang, also! What are the requirements?? Undying devotion to Avon? Well, then I qualify. Gail Gawlik ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 18:19:51 +0100 From: Julia Jones To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: responses of an "Avon-like" nature Message-ID: <85tVUKA3st61EwpW@jajones.demon.co.uk> In message <199808302020_MC2-57D4-E639@compuserve.com>, Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com> writes >Getting Calle to sit still for a photo at all was a major achievement. > He was too tired to run away - a couple of days of conversations in nothing but his second language had seen to that... -- Julia Jones "Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!" The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 17:43:15 EDT From: ShilLance@aol.com To: j_macqueen@hotmail.com, blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] A damn good guess Message-ID: <7447f915.35eb18f3@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-08-30 23:53:36 EDT, j_macqueen@hotmail.com writes: << I hope Gwynn suggesting that he's not unlike Tarrant means that he isn't far too pretty for his own good >> Well my wife thinks I'm tall, dark, and handsome......... Gwynn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:59:58 PDT From: "Joanne MacQueen" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting Message-ID: <19980831230002.18915.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Hello everyone, and Carol McCoy in particular. >No, just kidding. I consider your ability to recognize that Tarrant is >"far too pretty for his own good" to be a good thing. Dear Carol, you are being far too nice to me. How am I going to cure any lurking tendencies toward provoking reactions out of the Tarrant Nostra if you react so well? Regards Allergic to toothy grins It is impossible to enjoy idling thoroughly unless one has plenty of work to do. -- Jerome K. Jerome ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 19:18:07 EDT From: Tigerm1019@aol.com To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] "Avon-like" natures Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit According to the Meyers-Briggs test, I'm an INFP like Cally, although when I'm at my worst I think I am very Avonish. Tiger M ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 20:51:33 -0400 From: Mod Chip To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] REMOVE Message-Id: <199809010050.UAA27054@dewdrop2.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" REMOVE ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:45:40 -0700 From: "Adam L. Fuller" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Countdown Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980831214537.006b9eb4@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi everyone, This has probably been discussed before, but there is one problem in particular that has been bothering me for years about "Countdown," even though I consider one of my favorite episodes. First of all, the digital countdown device was only counting down 1000 seconds, even though they said it was a few hours long until detonation. Like anything else on Blake's 7, you have to look past that technical discepancy and use your imagination to assume that the digital device was counting down from a much higher number. But I just don't understand how the BBC can make such a foolish mistake! Also, one thing I realized after watching that episode today for the tenth or so time, the Albian computer expert at the beginning did in fact help to dismantle the device when he tried to detonate the bomb and only made it hiccup for one second. It was actually that one extra second that he managed to give them that gave Avon the one extra second he needed at the end to insert the last rod and detonate the bomb. I've never really thought about that until today. -Adam L. Fuller ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 10:22:57 +0100 From: Robinson Paula To: "'Lysator List'" Cc: "'Space City'" Subject: RE: [B7L] The Crucible Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Judith - yes I'll be there on 19th, and so will Steve - we've already got tickets, and like you we went for the £17 ones. Sorry, hope I haven't messed up chances of a discount by going it alone, I obviously didn't read the information at the box office very efficiently or I should have spotted that - I was just passing, so I got them on the spot. I have to admit to having Local Knowledge as I live in Bromley, so if people (however many, however few) want to meet up somewhere for a drink first, I'm sure I can find somewhere appropriate. Paula Robinson >---------- >From: Judith Proctor[SMTP:Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk] >Sent: 31 August 1998 18:29 >To: Lysator List >Cc: Space City >Subject: [B7L] The Crucible > >Having got back from holiday (we took a narrowboat around the Avon ring - >stopping off in Stratford Upon Avon for an afternoon to trawl the Royal >Shakespeare Company archives for new photos of Gareth Thomas) I figure it's >about time that I tried to organise a theatre group. > >Who else wants to come and see The Crucible in Bromley? Quite apart from >Gareth >being in it, it's supposed to be a damn good play in its own right. > >If we get a group of ten or more people, there's a ten percent discount. > >I've made an arbitary choice of date for Saturday 19 September on the grounds >that Saturdays are the only days I can get to Bromley. > >The theatre is the Churchill theatre in Bromley. The play starts at 7.45 and >tickets cost 17, 16 or 12 pounds depending on where your seat is. > >Seeing as I'm travelling from Dorset to Bromley, I figure I might as well get >the 17 pound ticket - this is my Christmas present from last Xmas. > >If you want to come, let me know what type of ticket you want and if we end >up >with ten or more, I'll book us as a group. > >If there's enough of us, maybe we could meet up somewhere before the show and >have a drink together. > >Judith > >-- >http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 > >Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention >26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent >http://www.smof.com/redemption/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 04:08:26 PDT From: "Rob Clother" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se, DCsquared@aol.com Subject: Re: [B7L] Message-ID: <19980901110827.15425.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain >Which character on B7 most accurately reflects everyone's >personality? Blake. Though both Soolin and Servalan strike certain resonant chords. Coincidentally, these are also my favourite B7 characters, with Gan, Zen and Vila not far behind. -- Rob ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 04:39:09 PDT From: "Rob Clother" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se, ay648@yfn.ysu.edu Subject: Re: [B7L] Message-ID: <19980901113910.6268.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain I've been very tediously involved in the dreaded RL for the past few weeks. The blasted thing would be abolished if I had anything to do with it. Nevertheless, as soon as I'm on top of it all, I'll return to some of the more engaging topics we were discussing a couple of months ago. In the mean time, here's a bit of gratuitous Tarrant bashing: (I won't be back to look at the list for another ten days, so the TN have got plenty of time to retaliate, or to cast the provocation aside in imprudent contempt). ===================================================================== >What a sweet observation about Tarrant. Sometimes I think it boils >down to his very niceness irritating people. Yes, I'd tend to agree with that. Nice, drippy, dopey types like our Del have never particularly appealed to me. >And many of us like him exactly as he was written. Mmm. Many of us like peanut butter, banana and anchovy sandwiches as well. It takes all sorts... >Gwynn, it's great to find a rare, male Tarrant fan. You have >good taste! Yes. Good taste in drippy, dopey, sentimental simpletons. With "wild dandelion" haircuts. (Not my choice of words). That's all for now. I'd better go and do something more constructive. Cheerio, Rob ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:49:57 -0400 From: ay648@yfn.ysu.edu (Carol A. McCoy) To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting Message-ID: <199809011349.JAA18514@yfn.ysu.edu> Joanne wrote: >Dear Carol, you are being far too nice to me. How am I going to cure any >lurking tendencies toward provoking reactions out of the Tarrant Nostra >if you react so well? You could just give up and join the Tarrant Nostra. Become one of the in crowd. ;-) >Allergic to toothy grins There are treatments for that. Seriously, there are many fans who have come to appreciate Tarrant over time. I think it's a matter of walking in his shoes and trying to understand why he does things. He's not a malicious person. His flaws are basically those of youth, and they are far outweighed by his virtures. If nothing else, consider that Avon came to depend on him and even to care about him. And we know Avon is never wrong. :) Carol Mc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:43:04 EDT From: Tigerm1019@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting Message-ID: <6a54796b.35ec1608@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I agree with Carol. If you watch the episode "Blake", look at Avon's face as he realizes that Tarrant is going to have to stay aboard the crashing Scorpio. Of all the characters, he strikes me as the most straightforward and least likely to stab someone in the back. His crewmates know where they stand with him, something that is not true of Avon or even Blake. Tiger M ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:39:27 -0500 (CDT) From: hill susan a To: blakes 7 list Subject: [B7L] ATTN. Sarah Thompson Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm sorry to send this to the whole list, but All my mail was deleted by the cruel system admins. ( I only had over 1000 messages in the queue.) Therefore I lost the URL for the B. Holland page that Sarah kindly posted, and Sarah's address as well. Could you please send me that URL, Sarah? I've done web searches, but don't seem to find it. Thank you Susan Adair ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:20:15 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: [B7L] The Crucible Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Steve, Where do you and Paula think is the best place to meet up? I don't know Bromley at all, so somewhere close to the theatre is best to reduce the chances of me getting lost. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 07:31:59 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: Re: [B7L] Countdown Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Tue 01 Sep, Adam L. Fuller wrote: > Hi everyone, > > This has probably been discussed before, but there is one problem in > particular that has been bothering me for years about "Countdown," even > though I consider one of my favorite episodes. First of all, the digital > countdown device was only counting down 1000 seconds, even though they said > it was a few hours long until detonation. Like anything else on Blake's 7, > you have to look past that technical discepancy and use your imagination to > assume that the digital device was counting down from a much higher number. > But I just don't understand how the BBC can make such a foolish mistake! Was the device actually counting in seconds? Towards the end, they seem like awfully long seconds. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 11:58:11 -0700 From: "Jim Bartlett" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Just What the World Needs . . . Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've just stumbled across another Blake's 7 Web site. I've checked this month's digests and I can't find any mention of it, so here goes. It's at http://www.blakes7.com (10 out of 10 for registering that domain !), and is run by four ex-Birmingham students named Jason, Martin, Ewen and John. Looks very promising. Cheers, Jim Bartlett -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V98 Issue #226 **************************************