From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V98 #244 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume98/244 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 244 Today's Topics: Re: [B7L] Jenna the Bimbo [B7L] Re: Where are you? Re: [B7L] Murdersville [B7L] Sheepish songs [B7L] Sheepish songs Re: [B7L] Re: Jenna the Bimbo Re: [B7L] Re: Jenna the Bimbo Re: [B7L] Re: Jenna the Bimbo [B7L] Caption Contest return/Rallying Call [B7L] 'anti-spam' addresses [B7L] The most dreadful 1/2 page in the World -- my entry Re: [B7L] 'anti-spam' addresses [B7L] Bloopers ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:46:21 +0100 From: Julia Jones To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Jenna the Bimbo Message-ID: In message , SuzanThoms@aol.com writes >I think one of the biggest factors here is that during the shows initial run >the public wanted to focus on the male leads (Avon and Blake) and that's who >the writer's concentrated on. Which is truly fascinating, when you look at the initial order of names in the credits: Gareth Thomas Sally Knyvette Michael Keating Paul Darrow So Jenna is ranked above everyone except Blake, which is hardly surprising as she's the pilot. The computer nerd is only fourth - he certainly wasn't considered the male co-lead during the first season. -- Julia Jones "Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!" The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 13:35:33 -0700 From: Jacquelyn Taylor To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: Where are you? Message-ID: <36095B95.30E4@primenet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sondra Sweigman wrote: > > I was wondering if anyone out there (particularly anyone in the > UK) knows when the next -- and final -- issue of the Horizon Letterzine > will be coming out. It was supposed to be sometime last month, so I > figure a decent enough interval has gone by to allow me to ask the > question :-) > > Sondra > Has anyone ever responded to this? I was rather hoping to find out too. Jackie T. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:29:54 +0100 From: "Dangermouse" To: "Steve Rogerson" , "Lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] Murdersville Message-Id: <199809232142.WAA08940@gnasher.sol.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve Rogerson wrote: > While at The Crucible on Saturday, I noticed among Gareth's TV credits > listed in the programme was The Avengers. Judith informed me this was > from the episode Murdersville, which I have since discovered is on one > of the M Appeal collection being released at the moment (as the name > suggests they are all Emma Peel adventures). It is on tape 4 of 6 (three > episodes per tape) and I have since bought and watched it. It is a very > young Gareth and it is a small but silent role. But it is still worth > getting if you are an Avengers fan. Better still is the black and white episode A Sense Of History - which has a rather larger role for a young Jackie Pearce. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 16:17:25 PDT From: "Joanne MacQueen" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Sheepish songs Message-ID: <19980923231725.2628.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain >> Anyone remember a song called "Only for sheep" by The Bureau? >> Its relevance? Well, I keep thinking of "Voice from the past". >I'm not familiar with the song, but the title makes it sound promising. >Would it be a serious song for B7 or could it be made into a >humorous music video? Blake's crew following after him in the >manner of sheep... Erm, no, actually (though you've made me smile on a dull, grey morning in a dull, grey mood - so the idea has some merit: I keep thinking of Vila dressed in something woolly, and baaing...that's right, I'm still not quite in my right mind again). No, it would be a serious song, Carol. Just look at the second verse (the one I thought would be perfect for Ven Glynd): You show us a new way, you sound so sincere How sweet it must be to able to think so clear But you're just another in a long line of fools Giving us freedom with a new set of rules Well, it sounds like it would be good - there's the ambiguity there in the episode: is he stirring things up so that he can take over from where Servalan and co. left off, or has something or someone (Blake? Le Grand?) truly persuaded him of the evils of Federation government? There is also the stupidity of his thinking that he can get away with it, when we've seen (and I think you can argue that he's heard about it too) Blake having considerable difficulty consolidating any gains he makes, a difficulty that other resistance groups seem also to suffer. Actually, now that I think about it, if it wasn't for her saying in "Spacefall" that she'd like to believe as Blake does, the whole thing could be from Jenna's point of view, seeing as she's just as capable of being sneering and cynical as our old friend Kerr (when she wants to be, of course). You'd be better at thinking of songs for the Tarrant Nostra's favourite pin-up boy, Carol. Have fun Regards Joanne Tort: see "Puddy tat". --Miles Kington, "A Simple Glossary of Legal Terms", The Punch Books of Crime. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:04:35 +1200 From: Nicola Collie To: B7-list Subject: [B7L] Sheepish songs Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Joanne said: >I keep thinking of >Vila dressed in something woolly, and baaing...that's right, I'm still >not quite in my right mind again). LOL! What a cute image :) You know, I think you are actually in your right mind. Although having never met you I'm least qualified to judge. Just remember: "I don't suffer from insanity - I enjoy every minute of it!" (filched in true Vila style from someone's .sig). ttfn, Nicola (starting to lose it herself) --- Nicola Collie mailto:nicola.collie@stonebow.otago.ac.nz "I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV." 41 sleeps! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:52:37 -0700 From: Pat Patera To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Jenna the Bimbo Message-ID: <36087085.1494@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Judith Proctor wrote: > > She was strong in other episodes too. She was wonderful when double-crossing and outsmarting the Amagon Pirates. Oh! If only we'd seen more of Jenna the Pirate Queen *drool* > > The girls were left behind to man the teleport, Surely you mean: "The girls were left behind to boy the teleport." Pat P ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 21:02:09 -0700 From: Pat Patera To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Jenna the Bimbo Message-ID: <360872C1.35F7@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Murray wrote: re: Trevor Hoyle's novelisation This prose must win some prize for the sheer number or trite phrases crammed into 1/2 page: How can people disparage fanfic when trash like this is called pro? >Jenna appeared in the doorway and softly called his name. >his eyes popping out of his head. >a beautiful and sexy star maiden >it took all of ten seconds >attired in the most revealing costume. >well aware of the stunning effect >goggling admiration >expression one of impish seductiveness. >Jenna enquired coyly, posing for him. >It makes me feel like a woman again. Would someone like to write a different one page story using all of these lines? What could be the prize for the best (worst) composition? Pat flings down the gauntlet ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 17:52:10 +1200 From: Nicola Collie To: B7-list Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Jenna the Bimbo Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" quoted from the Hoyle novelisation: >>It makes me feel like a woman again. Seeing this out of context makes me ponder - this could just as easily have been said by Avon ;) Well, it would have been no less in character than the rest of his depiction in that extract. To echo Judith: "Thank God for Chris Boucher" ttfn, Nicola --- Nicola Collie mailto:nicola.collie@stonebow.otago.ac.nz "I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV." 41 sleeps! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 06:18:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Sue Clerc To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Caption Contest return/Rallying Call Message-ID: <19980924131809.11286.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Caption contest After a few months off, the caption contest is back up on my web pages (http://www.bgsu.edu/~sclerc/Blakes7.html). The photo, of...oh, what's his name... well, anyway, the photo will stay up until the end of October since I got a late start this month. I hope that by the time the next photo goes up, I'll have everything moved to a new server. Rallying Call Terry was concerned that she'd overstated the no-bashing (of Blake, that is) in Rallying Call. I pick on him plenty, even in the pieces of my trib that I put on the web. The difference is that in RC I know I'm doing it among people who like the character as much as I do, and that creates a whole different atmosphere. I should also add that we're not just about Blake, we're about Blake's 7. We just happen to like Blake (some of us even like other characters, too). Sue blake4fr@yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 07:22:46 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: [B7L] 'anti-spam' addresses Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII I had a message bounce back to me today from a list member. She'd asked me a questions as to what 'gobsmacked' meant (as though you've been punched in the mouth) and I replied. My reply bounced because her address had an anti-spam component to it. I'm finding this an increasing problem. Will people who have these addresses PLEASE make it clear what address any replies must be sent to. I can fully understand people wanting to avoid spam, but it does create a problem for people they actually want to talk to. Judith PS. And a curse on all spammers for forcing people to adopt this kind of defensive measure. -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:18:01 PDT From: "Rob Clother" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] The most dreadful 1/2 page in the World -- my entry Message-ID: <19980924181803.16769.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain >>Jenna appeared in the doorway and softly called his name. >>his eyes popping out of his head. >>a beautiful and sexy star maiden >>it took all of ten seconds >>attired in the most revealing costume. >>well aware of the stunning effect >>goggling admiration >>expression one of impish seductiveness. >>Jenna enquired coyly, posing for him. >>It makes me feel like a woman again. > >Would someone like to write a different one page story using all of >these lines? What could be the prize for the best (worst) >composition? A dirty weekend in Scunthorp. With Morag out of "The Way Back". >Pat flings down the gauntlet Challenge accepted. ==================================================================== Kerr Avon's expertise in computer systems did not extend to the locking system of his cabin. Every aspect of the ship's operation was linked into the flight computer Zen, and the cabin doors were no exception. They responded to commands from any member of the crew. Hence, when Jenna appeared in the doorway and softly called his name, Avon's door opened and revealed secrets he didn't wish to disclose. "What do you think you're doing, Jenna!" he yelled, his eyes popping out of his head. The viewing screen opposite his bunk was clearly visible, portaying a beautiful and sexy star maiden. In his bewilderment, Avon fumbled for the controls. It took all of ten seconds for the image to disappear. Jenna was enjoying the moment: briefly, the man who had to rule every situation was utterly overruled. She saw an opportunity to prolong the ordeal. "Avon," she declared, "You do realise you're attired in the most revealing costume?" Well aware of the stunning effect of being caught in a private moment, Jenna could sense how much time she had before Avon would recover his wits and regain control of the situation. After that happened, there would be no question of referring to this incident again. Avon was a proud man. Yet this only heightened Jenna's sense of triumph. The others may only ever get to see his cold, cynical side, but Jenna would never forget the look of goggling admiration on his face before he became aware of her presence. Nor would she forget the object of his admiration: a simplistic, undemanding figure projecting only the crudest form of sexuality. There was nothing profound or intelligent in the woman. She was a fantasy, her expression one of impish seductiveness rather than real feminine power. Could this be what Avon wanted in a woman? It seemed unlikely. Prompted by this thought, Jenna's mood turned from one of triumph to one of disappointment. She had never liked Avon, but up until now he had commanded her respect. Could she continue to respect him after witnessing this spectacle? It was time to end the game. Jenna changed her tone. "Actually, Avon, I only came by your cabin to offer you a cup of coffee. Would you like one?" Under the circumstances, Avon was grateful for the respite. "Yes, Jenna. Thank you." She had given him the chance to compose himself. The tension of the situation eased as she turned and made her way to the exit of the cabin. When she returned some minutes later, both seemed more forthcoming. "Listen, Avon," Jenna enquired coyly, posing for him as if angling for his trust. "I have to say, that isn't the sort of woman I'd have expected you to be interested in." She had judged the moment well. Avon was ready to confide. "I know, Jenna. Logically, I wouldn't expect myself to be interested in that sort of trash. But it helps me come to terms with my losses. It makes me feel like a woman again, and that is a desire I thought I would never experience again. We are all entitled to our own private therapy." The last sentence, spoken slowly and deliberately, was a signal that the conversation was over. The expression on Avon's face was also a clear invitation to leave. Back on the flight deck, Jenna pondered what had just happened. Avon had confided in her: he had given her his trust. From Avon, such gifts were bestowed rarely, and in small measure. Jenna, for her part, would not betray this. She felt hints of sadness and regret, though. Had she liked him any more, his trust might have been worth something: she may even have felt some sympathy for his situation. -- Rob Do you know, this is a heck of a lot easier than writing a thesis... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: 24 Sep 1998 20:45:10 +0200 From: Calle Dybedahl To: Lysator List Subject: Re: [B7L] 'anti-spam' addresses Message-ID: Judith Proctor writes: > Will people who have these addresses PLEASE make it clear what address any > replies must be sent to. My personal opinion is that people who do that sort of thing don't want mail, so I don't send them any. If they don't want to recieve my help, I don't insist. And while it's hopefully not relevant to those who actually read this, I'd just like to point out that sending nospam-mutated mail to the listbot is not very clever at all, and I wish people would stop doing that. > PS. And a curse on all spammers for forcing people to adopt this kind of > defensive measure. Agreed, heartily. -- Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se "I think quotes are very dangerous things." -- KaTe Bush ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 23:28:10 +0200 From: "Jeroen J. Kwast" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Bloopers Message-ID: <360AB96A.A75CD5B6@gns.getronics.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello again everybody, I just got the Red dwarf smeg-ups and smeg-outs. They are very funny. The same question comes to my mind: WHY NO BLAKE'7 BLOOPERS ON SALE !!!!! Why do I have to go to a convention to watch this tape when I can have a tape added to my B7 tape collection????? Some discussion? Jeroen PS: I hope you don't mind that I send this message every year at about the same time. 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