From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V98 #6 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume98/6 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 6 Today's Topics: Jenna's Jewelry was Re: [B7L] The Way Back 3/4 re:[B7L] Dorian Crew Re: [B7L] Og-Gan [B7L] Re: Cat Scan [B7L] Re: Avon and Cally Re: Jenna's Jewelry was Re: [B7L] The Way Back [B7L] jackie and purdie Re: [B7L] Og-Gan Re: [B7L] The Way Back 4/4 [B7L] was Viewing Figures, now fav series, TV spoilers [B7L] Updates II ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 23:36:48 GMT From: kawm@dove.mtx.net.au (Ken Minne) To: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: Jenna's Jewelry was Re: [B7L] The Way Back 3/4 Message-ID: <34b2da0f.3397915@mail.mtx.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Good day all, On Sat, 3 Jan 1998 17:15:10 -0500 (EST), Sue wrote: >Glynd or Glynda: Suppose Glynd was already looking around for a new >position before Voice from the Past, before The Way Back. There are always >power struggles in any government and Glynd was looking to shore up his >own power base and ensure his own future. He might have already been >conspiring with LeGrand based on the idea that he would have a higher >place in the new government or it might have occurred to him later. Along >comes Blake again and Glynd has a new weapon to use. He arranges for Blake >to be deported rather than killed, knowing that if there's one thing Blake >can be relied on to do, it's cause trouble. To help Blake get away from >Cygnus Alpha, Glynd makes sure a pilot currently in custody is thrown onto >the London, too. If Blake doesn't escape, nothing is lost. If he does, he >will find a way to wreak havoc and while the Federation forces are trying >to put down Blake, their attention will be diverted from Glynd's >activities. Furthermore, thanks to Blake's previous conditioning, Glynd >has a puppet he can call up when he's ready to make his move. > >Sue >sclerc@bgnet.bgsu.edu http://www.bgsu.edu/~sclerc/Blakes7.html > This little conspiracy raises connects to something that I was on the verge of raising on the list myself. How does Jenna, presumably a regular criminal smuggler, manage to get all the way through the Federation Justice System, and most of the way to Cygnus Alpha, with her jewelry intact? If she was a VIP, in the conspiracy, the guards may have been looking out for her. Catch you later, Walter Minne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 23:31:58 -0800 From: Jackie To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: re:[B7L] Dorian Crew Message-ID: <34B32F6E.64B@termlow.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Roger The Shrubber wrote: >> >> Jackie wrote >> Add a maniac like Dorian to the mix...... oh YES!! pleeeese, someone write >> the story! >> ***** > Dorian could have been a powerful ally had he been persuaded to join the > Blake side of the force ... his technical knowledge, general wisdom from > being alive so long, his insanity, his willingness to kill - he would have > fitted right in. Of course, it may be a problem deciding which job to give > his pet gestalt. > > Darren r > Comments are welcome ! That`s easy! It has been scientifically proven that pet owners have a significantly lower stress rate than non pet owners. Less stress = Longer life. Something to do with petting, stroking, and the non-demanding charactor of the pet, I believe! Bye for now. Jackie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 21:22:52 -0800 From: Pat Patera To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Og-Gan Message-ID: <34B1BFAC.3D6E@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit STEVE.ROGERSON@MCR1.poptel.org.uk wrote: > Pat P said: "ohmagawd! For a story that *no one's* ever written > before, try: Og/Gan!" > Don't tempt me. I would if I could work out a believable way > Gan could still be alive when Og turned up. That's easy. Gan wasn't *quite* dead after Pressure Point. Servalan's rescuers took him out. Since he escaped a prison ship the last time, he was now sentenced to be a "lab animal" in Justin's science experiment. Og shows him the ropes (pun intended). Perverted Pat P ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 01:11:27 EST From: penny_kjelgaard@juno.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: Cat Scan Message-ID: <19980106.220521.15111.0.Penny_Kjelgaard@juno.com> Lorna B. wrote: >Yes, but isn't it annoying for the cat? - Lisa wrote: No, the cat is the one doing the scanning. That's what's going on when they stand on your chest and peer inquisitively into your nostrils while you're trying to sleep. The Tarrant Nostril cat? Peace, Penny ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 01:11:27 EST From: penny_kjelgaard@juno.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: Avon and Cally Message-ID: <19980106.220521.15111.1.Penny_Kjelgaard@juno.com> I think that Avon only really loved Anna...but I do believe he held a deep bond for Cally. She understood him more than the rest did, and I do believe Avon knew that...I think she could sense his deep pain, and though she realized he wanted to keep it to himself, she had a great deal of empathy for him. The rest of the crew were straight forward about their pasts...Avon seemed to speak to keep it hidden. Also the intelligence factor. As we know, we all have different friends of different mental capabilities, but there are those we click with and those we don't. Those we use big words with and those we can't. I think Avon and Cally clicked intellectually. Not that the others weren't smart, because they all were in their own ways.... But when you bond with someone like that, the relationship is almost outside the realm of sex and emotion and runs on pure energy. Penny ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 14:55:32 +0100 (MET) From: "Jeroen J. Kwast" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se (mailing list) Subject: Re: Jenna's Jewelry was Re: [B7L] The Way Back Message-Id: <199801071355.OAA31815@pampus.gns.getronics.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > This little conspiracy raises connects to something that I was on the > verge of raising on the list myself. > > How does Jenna, presumably a regular criminal smuggler, manage to get > all the way through the Federation Justice System, and most of the way > to Cygnus Alpha, with her jewelry intact? > > If she was a VIP, in the conspiracy, the guards may have been looking > out for her. Maybe the jewelry was immitation? Jeroen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 04:33:29 +1100 From: Fran Myers To: B7 Subject: [B7L] jackie and purdie Message-ID: <34B3BC69.4D2B@ozemail.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There was another series of "Avengers" - much later - starring a rather elderly Steed, assisted by someone whose name I can't recall, but it was played by the luscious Gareth Hunt, and Purdie, played by the equally luscious Joanna Lumley. The series was a total flop. Last night I watched an old and dreadful English movie in which Jackie played - would you believe - a gypsy wench!!! The most cultivated voice ever heard from a grubby, untidy, plump gypsy. Fran M ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 08:24:39 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: Re: [B7L] Og-Gan Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 On Tue 06 Jan, Pat Patera wrote: > That's easy. Gan wasn't *quite* dead after Pressure Point. Servalan's > rescuers took him out. Since he escaped a prison ship the last time, he > was now sentenced to be a "lab animal" in Justin's science experiment. > Og shows him the ropes (pun intended). No no, , I've got a far better explanation. I always knew I liked Og, now I know why. Og *is* Gan!!! Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 16:36:24 -0800 From: Rhonda L Stroud To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] The Way Back 4/4 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980108003624.006740bc@mail.halcyon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, Firstly, Sue, thanks for all the work and thought that went into your essays (and typing them up as well). At 05:16 PM 1/3/98 -0500, Sue Clerc wrote: >All about Blake > >Watching Blake: Was someone set to watch him at all times? We know the Fed >are still keeping track of him because they send him viztapes of his >family to reinforce the conditioning. Is Blake such a major threat that >they keep him under constant surveillance even after 4 years? Maybe. Or it >might have picked up recently in response to the growing amount of >dissident activity Ravella and Foster mention; the government suspected >the rebels might approach Blake. ... >"There's not much left of the man I knew": ...[snipped] So what was Blake like >before the Fed's raped his mind? You raise some interesting questions. Blake just didn't seem charismatic enough to have such a large following if his only gripe with the Federation was personal. Many people have personal grudges against the US gov't. or a branch (the IRS immediately comes to mind), but just because someone suffered an unkindness at the tax dept. won't make me want to join up and fight. In order to attract quality followers and sensible people to a rebellion I would think you would need an ideology, a call to action that sounds logical and intelligent reason why people should care about the issue and join your revolution. If your reasons for sedition are purely personal, you aren't going to attract a crowd. That's why I've always assumed that initially Blake was someone who held a position of responsibility (I've always thought of him as a holder of a high status position in a tech field, thus explaining why Avon knew who Blake was, but Blake didn't know Avon, who was a senior researcher), who became politically active after he noticed a pattern of Federation abuses. Initially, it wasn't personal at all for him. Only later, after the gov't had erradicated most of his status, and life, did the fight become personal. That's the only thing he could remember clearly!! This would also make sense, since memories attached to emotions are extremely difficult to dislodge, but as we all know, how much of our college information did we retain? [Lots of very interesting comments from Sue C. snipped] Sue also writes: What I'm wondering, I >guess, is how much of Blake's fight in the series is a result of his >experiences in "The Way Back" and after, how much is a result of >remembering his previous self, and how much is a result of trying to >remember and reclaim what he was before. These are interesting elements to ponder. Perhaps this explains part of why Avon continues to hang around Blake. He's trying to find these answers by "studying" the source! Take care, Rhonda ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 16:36:21 -0800 From: Rhonda L Stroud To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] was Viewing Figures, now fav series, TV spoilers Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980108003621.00670578@mail.halcyon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:28 AM 1/3/98 +1100, Kathryn Anderson wrote: >I've forgotten what various surveys showed, but I suspect that Avon fans >like the 3rd series better, and Blake-Avon fans like the 2nd series >better. This is right on. Glad I'm not the only one who loves the second series best. What's frightening to me is, now that the Seattle run of B7 is near an end, I'm actually developing a liking for Tarrant and an serious annoyance for Day-ner. It would be interesting to hear if I'm the only one who has experienced "migration" in this way. I *think* Pat P. continues >> wow! there's one good thing we can say about U.S. media - they do not >> speak spoilers. Probably because they're in bed with all the producers >> and don't want to dampen viewership figures and thus offend the >> advertisers. and then Kathryn continues: >Ha! You're forgetting about spoiler teasers. Too many times I've seen, >when the actual *network* makes up the advertisments for the next week's >episode of something (this has happened with both Babylon 5 and Trek), the >extracts that they chose to display in the ad, contain things that should >not have been revealed. (How do I know this? Getting tapes from the US >which didn't have the ads cut out.) You know, like as if they showed Avon >shooting Blake when advertising "Blake". Shoot selves in foot. Actually, that practice seems to be a recent one, and for some reason the Trek and B5 are most guilty. I wonder how many years it will take marketing to figure out this is counter-productive? Spoilers are most common at the cinema. I have friends who will call me after going to a movie and report on the up-coming movies from the spoilers shown in the theater. Often times they'll say, 'don't go to movie a, just see movie b at the y cinema and you can see the entire "good bits" of movie a in about 35 seconds, and by all means, don't spend $7 to see it!!' Also, as I'm catching up on the posts, Fran Myer recently wrote: Last night I watched an old and dreadful English movie in which Jackie played - would you believe - a gypsy wench!!! The most cultivated voice ever heard from a grubby, untidy, plump gypsy. Jackie Pearce plump? Oh, say it's not so!! I've lost my faith in fairness in the world!! As ever, Rhonda > >Kathryn Andersen >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >"Yes, Vila, I take your point. You're obviously far cleverer than I am." > -- Del Tarrant (Blake's 7: Moloch [C11]) >-- > _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen >/ \ | http://connexus.apana.org.au/~kat >\_.--.*/ | #include "std/disclaimer.h" > v | >------------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere >Maranatha! | -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 17:54:17 -0600 (CST) From: "G. Robbins" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Updates II Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've just updated my web page if anyone is interested. Things look pretty different and I've added a little to my story, also given it a proper name. There are a few nit-picky details in each paragraph that have been changed....if anybody is interested, go there. Grace Robbins robbins@inet-ux.graceland.edu www.graceland.edu/~robbins -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V98 Issue #6 ************************************