From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V98 #91 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume98/91 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 91 Today's Topics: Re: [B7L] PGP Avon as villain [B7L] Plaxton and Time Lines [B7L] filk [B7L] Avon club news Re: [B7L] filk Re: [B7L] Blake's 7 on DVD? Re: [B7L] killing Dr. Plaxton Re: [B7L]: Time Line Re: [B7L] filk Re: [B7L] who sez? Re: [B7L] Plaxton and Time Lines Re: blakes7-d Digest V98 #90 Re: [B7L]: Time Line Re: [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V98 #90 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:31:30 -0800 From: Helen Krummenacker To: Bill Billingsley CC: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] PGP Avon as villain Message-ID: <3519BE02.22DE@jps.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Embarrass him? Innocent me? (quietly hiding the pages with Avon, the > moose and the bright pink leotard...) ;-) On second thought, go ahead and embarrass him. The mind boggles--bright pink leotard? > But don't worry. Tarrant comes of much wose > > But on a more serious note, what do you do with these pieces of fanfic? > Should I post it here as I write it/ in one big lump at the end/ email it > to someone with a fanfic site/ etc. ? No posting in pieces-- I would enjoy seeing it on this list, but a large email could slow loading a lot... would other people be willing to deal with that (I would) as opposed to learning yet another site to check for fiction? Whichever way, I know there was a mail on this list a while ago asking for novice fanfic, so you can be sure of a place where it will be welcome (well, I'm not sure what the host of the site will think of the moose) ;) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 01:09:29 -0500 (EST) From: adering@ziplink.net (Alex Dering) To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Plaxton and Time Lines Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Shame on all of you for missing the obvious on this: When Blake, Jenna, and Avon arrive at Cygnus Alpha, slightly behind the London, they are all wearing the same clothes (even though it is several months later) by coincidence. Blake and the others have probably been spending as much time as possible learning all about the ship. They know there's a nice room filled with clothes, and they've probably selected all the ones they want. However, now that they're approaching the point where they have to go and get the others, they, perhaps subconsciously, have put their old "convict" clothes on (I'm sure the Liberator has a washer and dryer). As to why they arrive after the London, well, to arrive before the London would be absolutely idiotic. If the London sees them, the London might call for Federation support, or at least tell them where to find the Liberator. Much more sensible to wait for the London to leave, after it drops off its prisoners. And as to Dr. Plaxton. Hmm... someone is fatally injured when the ship's engines are re-engaged. Can you say, "The ship... out of danger?" Aside from the Plaxton/Spock similarity, can anyone think of other scenarios which Blake's 7 had first, which other series then had? I recall that one of the nearly-final scenes in Brazil had the main character surrounded in the bedroom by a gang of guards, very similar, visually, to Avon's final scene. That's all for now... ---------------------------------------- The future of mankind? Remember these words - Auschwitz, Stalingrad, Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Just words. Gladys Aylward, Mother Theresa, Albert Schwietzer. Just names. Somewhere between the words and the names lies the future of mankind." -- (Doctor Who - The New Adventures: "The Pit" by Neil Penswick) -- ---------------------------------------- website: http://www.ziplink.net/~adering ---------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:15:23 +0000 (GMT) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: [B7L] filk Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII (composed over dinner...) Soup of Cally, Leg of Tarrant, Avon's little toasties, Even though the smell of them is something quite atrocious, They may think that they can cook, but you'll get hallitosis, Supercallifragilisticexpialadocious! Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:36:44 +0000 (GMT) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: [B7L] Avon club news Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII LATEST NEWS FROM 'AVON' (the Paul Darrow fan club) 20TH MARCH, 1998 HERE IS AN UPDATE OF THEATRE DATES FOR PAUL'S TOUR OF 'GUARDS! GUARDS! 18TH MARCH BLACKPOOL - THE GRAND (OPENING WEDNESDAY) 23RD MARCH HACKNEY EMPIRE (NOT ON THE THURSDAY) 31TH MARCH NEWCASTLE - THEATRE ROYAL (OPENING TUESDAY) 6TH APRIL NORWICH - THEATRE ROYAL (INCLUDING GOOD FRIDAY) 13TH APRIL HULL - NEW THEATRE (NOT EASTER MONDAY) 20TH APRIL STEVENAGE - GORDON CRAIG THEATRE 27TH APRIL EASTBOURNE - DEVONSHIRE PARK THEATRE 4TH MAY TO BE CONFIRMED 11TH MAY TO BE CONFIRMED 18TH MAY HANLEY - THEATRE ROYAL 25TH MAY ABERDEEN - HIS MAJESTY'S 1ST JUNE EDINBURGH - KING'S 8TH JUNE READING - HEXAGON DARLINGTON HAS BEEN CANCELLED PAUL WILL BE INTERVIEWED BY NED SHERRIN ON HIS RADIO PROGRAMME 'LOOSE ENDS' - SATURDAY 28TH MARCH - RADIO 4 - 7.00 AM!! HE WILL ALSO BE INTERVIEWED ON THE STEVE ALLEN SHOW ON LBC RADIO ON MONDAY 23RD MARCH - 5.00 PM ANOTHER INTERVIEW WITH PAUL IS ON 'TELETEX' - SEE UNDER THEATRE SECTION - CHANNEL 4. ANN BOWN -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:43:01 +1000 (EST) From: Gordon & Carol To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] filk Message-Id: <199803260743.RAA03878@magna.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:15 PM 3/25/98 +0000, you wrote: >(composed over dinner...) > > > Soup of Cally, Leg of Tarrant, Avon's little toasties, > Even though the smell of them is something quite atrocious, > They may think that they can cook, but you'll get hallitosis, > Supercallifragilisticexpialadocious! > >Judith ROTFLMAO !!!!!!!! What was in your mind at the time my dear, that you came up with this little ditty. :-) Carol. Semper Fidelis Carol "Hondo" Mason < gcb7@magna.com.au > ******************************************************************* * "If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done"? * * "Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity" * * "Everyone has a photographic memory. Some just don't have film" * * "Friends may come and go, but enemies tend to accumlate" * * "If you can't convince them, confuse them" * * "Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk" * ******************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:52:11 +0000 From: Julia Jones To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake's 7 on DVD? Message-ID: In message <199803252027.VAA24338@samantha.lysator.liu.se>, Julie Horner writes > >Unfortunately I missed it on the BBC first time round so I am not aware >of any special bits I should be looking out for. Can someone enlighten me? > There is a bit in the fight scene between Avon and the computer technician, where Avon slams his hands over the guy's ears. It was trimmed from the video, IIRC because at the time there had been a spate of kiddies imitating this from the Tango ad (and various others) and causing perforated eardrums or worse. -- Julia Jones "Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!" The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:47:43 +0100 (MET) From: "Jeroen J. Kwast" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se (mailing list) Subject: Re: [B7L] killing Dr. Plaxton Message-Id: <199803260847.JAA15544@pampus.gns.getronics.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > In 'Stardrive' (series 4) she is the scientist who has created a new > super-dooper thingummy which makes spacecraft go like s**t off a shovel. > > She is using this marvellous technology to help a bunch of space > punks called Space Rats (I think) make their craft faster than anything. > > Avon and the crew get her to fit this gadget to Scorpio. Unfortunately she > is a bit tardy in performing the installation and does not have time to get > > out of the way before Avon has to use said thingummy to escape the > Federation ships - thus killing Dr. Plaxton. > > Hard decision but someone had to make it. > > Hope I covered all the relevant points there. > > Julie Horner > Which is fortunate really because: 1. They would be stuck with dr. plaxton 2. They would go to fast for the federation 3. Lost Slave the first time he would speak to dr. plaxton :) 4. They might actually keep some techno-stuff for real instead of losing it in the same episode :) 5. ... Jeroen PS: Sorry :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:15:00 -0000 From: "Taylor, Steve [MIS]" To: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: Re: [B7L]: Time Line Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain Someone - attribution lost:-( ->>Also, supposedly they were about halfway to CA when they got the Liberator, ->>which means they still had another 4 months to go (ref the comment in TWB ->>where someone says it takes 8 months to get there. Yet when they arrived, ->>they were all wearing the same clothes as they were when they set course ->for ->>CA......... -> ->Yeah that always makes me laugh. They must have been pretty smelly by ->then!! -> They could have used the Liber-launder facility! SteveT ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:08:49 -0500 (EST) From: sjk3@cornell.edu To: Judith Proctor cc: Lysator List Subject: Re: [B7L] filk Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Judith Proctor wrote: > (composed over dinner...) > Soup of Cally, Leg of Tarrant, Avon's little toasties, > Even though the smell of them is something quite atrocious, > They may think that they can cook, but you'll get hallitosis, > Supercallifragilisticexpialadocious! When I read the first couple lines of this I was wondering what in the world put the idea into your head of making soup out of Cally. Perhaps too many readings of "Stranger in a Strange Land"? Then I read the third line... Sandra Kisner sjk3@cornell.edu ------------------------------ Date: 26 Mar 1998 14:13:55 +0100 From: Calle Dybedahl To: "G. Robbins" Cc: Jay , blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] who sez? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII "G. Robbins" writes: > > Pat gave us these wonderful words of wisdom: > > 10. Keep your friends close, and your enemies even closer. > > Number ten sounds like something very familiar....from The X-Files, > perhaps? I remember it from Babylon 5. G'kar says it to Na'toth in first season episode "Parliament of Dreams". -- Calle Dybedahl, UNIX Sysadmin qdtcall@esavionics.se http://www.lysator.liu.se/~calle/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:00:34 -0800 From: Helen Krummenacker To: Alex Dering CC: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Plaxton and Time Lines Message-ID: <351A6D92.4817@jps.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alex Dering wrote: > > Shame on all of you for missing the obvious on this: > > When Blake, Jenna, and Avon arrive at Cygnus Alpha, slightly behind the > London, they are all wearing the same clothes (even though it is several > months later) by coincidence. Blake and the others have probably been > spending as much time as possible learning all about the ship. They know > there's a nice room filled with clothes, and they've probably selected all > the ones they want. However, now that they're approaching the point where > they have to go and get the others, they, perhaps subconsciously, have put > their old "convict" clothes on (I'm sure the Liberator has a washer and > dryer). Maybe not subconsciously. They'll be meeting their fellow-prisoners. And everyone on Cygnus Alpha will wear convict clothes. So, to be inconspicuous when he goes to take a look around, Blake puts his convict outfit back on. Avon decides to wear his, so as not to advertise how much material goods came with the ship. Jenna wears hers to "fit in", since she'll still be the only female around and she doesn't want to "pretty up" for men who haven't seen a girl in 4 months (at least). The answer, at last! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:44:35 EST From: penny_kjelgaard@juno.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Cc: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: blakes7-d Digest V98 #90 Message-ID: <19980326.083845.2223.0.Penny_Kjelgaard@juno.com> In message <19980324.184342.15151.1.Penny_Kjelgaard@juno.com>, penny_kjelgaard@juno.com writes >PS: Are there any female fans out there who *don't* like Avon? >> >Anyone who admits to this will be hunted down and taken away for >reconditioning therapy by the A.S.S.es > > >Come and get me. > So when's your next con? Just to make things easy for us, you understand. -- Julia Jones Julia, I have never been to a con, although Seattle does have such culture from time to time. I'm afraid you'll have to settle for list reconditioning. It's not that I dislike Avon, like I said before, I just don't worship him. I am an ENTP/J, so, how could I? I could argue with him, see his good points and encourage him, perhaps even trust him, but, like him? I had an aquaintance once who was much like Avon, (a whole lot LESS ruthless, mind you) and I could see his strong points, even respect him, but still not really like him. Now, on the other hand, I am a tremendous Blake fan. He is so much like me that I really identify with him, albeit he has a very strong desire for revenge (something I reserve for skinny kids in high school who show up FAT at our reunions. Wicked pleasure!) Peace, Penny Biology grows on you _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:13:50 +0000 (GMT) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: Re: [B7L]: Time Line Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Wed 25 Mar, Ian Lay wrote: > The reason why Liberator took just about the same time to reach Cygnus Alpha > as the London is I think they were travelling at similar speeds. Blake > tells Zen to get to Cygnus Alpha at Standard Speed when Zen asks for a > speed. Now as Standard speed is equivalent to time distort 4, it could be > possible that the London is also going Time distort 4. > > Now they could have gone faster, but they did want to "follow" the London, > and lets be honest they didn't arrive long after the London arrived. The basic problem with the 2nd and 3rd episode is that they cannot be cleanly reconciled. When watching 'Cygnus Alpha', it is evident that Liberator reached the planet only a few hours at most after leaving the London. They are still exploring the ship. Jenna discovers the clothes room and the treasury while Blake is down on the planet. Also, it is in this episode that Leylan orders suppressent gas to be used on London and he sends his report of what happened in the prisoners' revolt. In other wordss, London arrives at CA a day after the revolt at the most. In short, the 4 month/8 month time references have to be ignored as one of them is totally wrong. My only way of managing it is to assume that 8 months referred to te round trip to CA and back to Earth, although this does not sit well with the context in which it is used. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:54:45 -0800 From: Helen Krummenacker To: penny_kjelgaard@juno.com CC: blakes7@lysator.liu.se, blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V98 #90 Message-ID: <351B14F5.AC4@jps.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > It's not that I dislike Avon, like I said before, I just don't worship > him. I am an ENTP/J, so, how could I? I could argue with him, see his > good points and encourage him, perhaps even trust him, but, like him? > > I had an aquaintance once who was much like Avon, (a whole lot LESS > ruthless, mind you) and I could see his strong points, even respect him, > but still not really like him. > > Now, on the other hand, I am a tremendous Blake fan. He is so much like > me that I really identify with him, albeit he has a very strong desire > for revenge (something I reserve for skinny kids in high school who show > up FAT at our reunions. Wicked pleasure!) Blake _likes_ Avon. He is often annoyed by him, often tired of having to argue with him constantly, and having his authority undermined-- (seems familiar; oh yeah, my frequent conflicts with authority figures unless I learn to trust them)-- but he likes him. Because he respects him. Actually, I can't imgaine seeing someone the way you say you see Avon (respect, recognizing strong points, trusting) and not liking them as part of the package. -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V98 Issue #91 *************************************