From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V99 #14 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume99/14 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 14 Today's Topics: Re: blakes7-d Digest V98 #311 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:20:19 GMT From: "Dita Stanistraken" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se, blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: blakes7-d Digest V98 #311 Message-Id: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 20:43:31 +0100 (MET) > From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se > Subject: blakes7-d Digest V98 #311 > To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se > Reply-to: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > ------------------------------ > > Content-Type: text/plain > > blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 311 > > Today's Topics: > Re: [B7L] What does 'Duel' Tell Us... > Re: [B7L] What does 'Duel' Tell Us... > Re: [B7L] What does 'Duel' Tell Us... > [B7L] worst cast > [B7L] Breakfast with Blake & Co. > [B7L] Re: Breakfast with Blake and Co. > Re: [B7L] Gilbert and Servalan > Re: [B7L] Re: Breakfast with Blake and Co. > Re: [B7L] Re: Breakfast with Blake and Co. > Re: [B7L] worst cast > Re: [B7L] What does 'Duel' Tell Us... > Re: [B7L] What does 'Duel' Tell Us... > [B7L] Has anyone done a vid to this one? > Re: [B7L] worst cast > RE: [B7L] Travis has three faces > [B7L] BLAKES 7: THE MUSICAL MOTION PICTURE > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 12:52:21 +0100 (BST) > From: Judith Proctor > To: Lysator List > Subject: Re: [B7L] What does 'Duel' Tell Us... > Message-ID: > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII > > On Thu 17 Dec, Cam MacLeod wrote: > > > I never saw Travis' interest in Kiera's past life as a come-on or sexual > > at all. On the contrary to me it appears as deliberate cruelty, like a > > person going up to someone else with a disability or disfigurement and > > deliberately mocking it. > > > > But this makes Travis all the more real to me. He is disfigured and is > > bitter, so he lashes out cruelly at someone else who can't fight back. > > That's an interesting idea, and quite believable. The 'kick the cat' frame of > mind. He can't get at Blake, so he gets at the nearest available target. Blake > being so close by would have made him more inclined to feel that way. > > Judith > -- > http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 > > Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention > 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent > http://www.smof.com/redemption/ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 12:49:51 +0100 (BST) > From: Judith Proctor > To: Lysator List > Subject: Re: [B7L] What does 'Duel' Tell Us... > Message-ID: > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII > > On Wed 16 Dec, Penny Dreadful wrote: > > Judith said: > > > > >With a mutoid, a pick-up line would be irrelevent. They are conditioned to > > >obey orders. If he'd wanted sex, he would just have had to command it. > > > > I think it's more complicated than just "wanting sex". It's, um, wanting > > to get someone to want to have sex with one. Hmm. Otherwise the world of > > procreation would be much more straightforward than it is. > > Or to put it another way, he wanted human contact as much as sex. > > > > Why did Travis prefer mutoids? Was it more that he felt rejected by normal > > > people and thus turned to mutoids because they weren't repelled by him? > > > > I think he felt isolated from, and (psychologically) threatened by, > > normal people even when he was physically "normal". I think he felt more > > empathy for the mental processes of mutoids than he did for those of > > normal people. > > Possibly. But why? > > > > > >And that brings us onto the question of why he refused plastic surgery for > > >his eye. What do you think his motives were there? > > > > I think he perceived himself as a machine even before he got shot up, > > and was glad of a chance to overtly display this inhumanity. > > I think there may have been a display element as well. 'Look what Blake did to > me'. He claimed it was so that Blake wouldn't fail to recognise him, but in > actual fact, I think he wanted other people to be aware of it too. > > If he saw himself as a total machine, I don't think he would have been so > desperate for revenge. > > Judith > > -- > http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 > > Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention > 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent > http://www.smof.com/redemption/ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:41:59 -0800 > From: Pat Patera > To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > Subject: Re: [B7L] What does 'Duel' Tell Us... > Message-ID: <36795077.3D5@geocities.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Cam MacLeod wrote: > > Penny Dreadful wrote: > > > >Why is Travis so interested in Keera? > I thought he was testing her; trying to determine how much humanity she > might have left. > > > > I always saw that as a seriously inept come-on. A hostile, half-hearted > > > pick-up line. > > I never saw Travis' interest in Kiera's past life as a come-on or sexual > > at all. On the contrary to me it appears as deliberate cruelty... > > Absolutely. He tells this poor, friendless, enslaved, leather-encased, > probably sexless thing: > You used to be very beautiful, very much admired. > (i.e. you lost a great body) > But I suppose you don't remember any of that? > (i.e. you lost a good mind) > > My curiosity: When she says it doesn't matter, how could it? Is she > telling the truth, or only trying to show Travis that he can't hurt her > with his barbs. How much humanity is left to a mutoid? > > > > But this makes Travis all the more real to me. He is disfigured and is > > bitter, so he lashes out cruelly at someone else who can't fight back. > > He is very like Servalan in this respect. She attacks the old, the > feeble, the sick, the blind. She runs from true warriors. > > BTW, most know that Glynnis Barber played a mutoid in Project Avalon. Is > there any fanfic regarding Soolin's possible relationship with this > creature? Twin sister? Former state? Perhaps positioning Soolin as a > reconditioned mutoid set to infiltrate the B7 crew? If so, why did she > never act on her position to sabotoge the base? > > Pat P > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:15:36 -0800 > From: Pat Patera > To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > Subject: [B7L] worst cast > Message-ID: <36794A48.72ED@geocities.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > A friend (not on this list) who is a film buff sent me this, so I am > posting it to this list. > > You wake up in a differnet universe. It seems like the one you knew. > Stupid > politics continue in Washington, Star Trek movies continue to insult SF > fandom everywhere, but this universe is darker. Meaner. In this Universe > in > the year 1999, a studio strives to bring to the Big Screen....BLAKES 7, > THE > MOVIE. Only it has a nightmare cast! The worst actors for each role. The > following is for seasons one-two ... Be Afraid, be Very Afraid ... > > BLAKES 7 THE MOVIE > Starring: > > Roj Blake.........................William Shatner > Kerr Avon.........................Steven Segal > Jenna Stannis.....................Pamela Anderson Lee > Cally.............................Madeline Stowe > Villa Restal......................Adam Sandler > Olag Gan..........................Sylvester Stalone > ORAC..............................Arnold Schwartzenegger > > Servalan..........................Roseanne Barr > Tarvis(I).........................Bruce Willis > Travis(II)........................Keanu Reeves > > Crew: > Directed by.......................Micheal Bay (The Rock & Armegeddon) > Written by........................Branon Braga (ST) & Micheal Piller > (ST) > Music by..........................John Carpenter > > I love playing these games. I know fans enjoying casting who would be > perfect for a B7 film, I like casting who would be the worst actor for > the > part. hehehhe > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:32:37 -0800 > From: Pat Patera > To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > Subject: [B7L] Breakfast with Blake & Co. > Message-ID: <36794E45.817@geocities.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > oops! I left out fearless leader, so here goes again: > What does the crew eat for breakfast? > Several posters wrote: > ha he ho (to which I add my own) > > Servalan: incompetent underlings > > Travis: Blake's guts > > Blake: Wheaties, breakfast of champions > > Avon: vinegar & lemon juice (most effective way to set a day long scowl) > > Gan: Panchakes, waffles, bacon, eggs, hash browns, etc., etc., etc., > etc. > > Cally: Apparently nothing :-D > > Vila: Beer and twinkies > > Jenna: elegant crepes suzettes > > Tarrant: Trix (are for kids) > > Dayna: roasted rack of Sarran > > Soolin: ICEd tea and lemon TARTs > > Zen: lava lamps > > Orac: bytes of Bill Gates' biographies > > Slave: crow > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 14:15:41 PST > From: "Joanne MacQueen" > To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > Subject: [B7L] Re: Breakfast with Blake and Co. > Message-ID: <19981217221542.4306.qmail@hotmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Kathryn said: >Gan would be an eggs-and-bacon-on-toast sort of >person. > > Given that Gan has to keep up that enormous strength of his, I suggest > the full English breakfast you see the gentry consuming in Agatha > Christie adaptations and the like. You know the sort of thing - bacon > and eggs and toast and kippers and kidneys and cooked tomatoes and > (waffle on ad nauseam). > > I think you are right about Vila, but I'm sure he'd be glued to the > television commercials to see what little knick-knack was being offered > by which brand this week. He'd probably eat Happy Meals at > McDonalds, and other little kids' meals at other fast food places for > the same reason. > > Cally's muesli blend and fresh fruit is the summer menu, or so I > presume. She'd probably be happy to eat a small bowl of porridge in > winter. > > Judith said: >Travis - Blake's guts > > Travis must have more imagination than I've previously given him > credit for, in that case. > > On another, vaguely B7 related matter: anyone in Sydney who likes > Barbara Paul's Marian Larch mysteries? "Full Frontal Murder" is > available at Abbey's in York Street. Or, at least, it was last night > (Thursday night) - there were two copies on the shelf, and I bought one > because Marian is one of those fictional detectives I happen to > like (like Wexford, or Barnaby, or Alleyn, or Bone, or Thanet - a female > detective makes a nice change). Curt "by name and nature" Holland I > could do without, actually, but if the author likes him a lot, as she > seems to... > > Regards > Joanne > > The North wind is tossing the leaves, the red dust is over the town > The sparrows are under the eaves, and the grass in the paddock is brown > As we lift up our voices and sing to the Christ child the heavenly king > --an Australian Christmas carol > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 04:44:22 -0000 > From: "Neil Faulkner" > To: "lysator" > Subject: Re: [B7L] Gilbert and Servalan > Message-ID: <007401be2a57$a7a544a0$2a19ac3e@default> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > On a frontier planet a little space rat > Sang 'Vila, dear Vila, dear Vila.' > I said to her, 'Punky girl, why are you sat > Singing Vila, dear Vila, dear Vila? > Are you jacked up on shadow, and out of your head? > Or a bait for a trap to see me end up dead?' > 'Oh no,' she replied, 'I would take you to bed, > Oh Vila, dear Vila, dear Vila.' > > She stripped off her leathers and pitched her voice higher, > Crying 'Vila, Oh Vila, Oh Vila. > I've got something for you that I know you desire, > Oh Vila, Oh Vila, OH VILA!' > I asked, 'Is it soma?' for that sounded fine. > 'Or maybe a bottle of Dorian's wine?' > She stalked off in a huff with a two-fingered sign > Sighing 'Vila, queer Vila, queer Vila...' > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 04:59:00 -0000 > From: "Neil Faulkner" > To: "lysator" > Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Breakfast with Blake and Co. > Message-ID: <007501be2a57$a8332cc0$2a19ac3e@default> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > >Cally's muesli blend and fresh fruit is the summer menu, or so I > >presume. She'd probably be happy to eat a small bowl of porridge in > >winter. > > > Wouldn't they all eat porridge, given the number of fans who are desperate > to see our heroes get their oats? > > Neil > > "And so the Sword That Was Broken was forged anew, and Aragorn did rename it > as Anduriglimiglimoglirompompom, but Elrond said that was silly." > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 05:36:10 -0000 > From: "Neil Faulkner" > To: "lysator" > Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Breakfast with Blake and Co. > Message-ID: <007701be2a57$aa7ea360$2a19ac3e@default> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > >Marian is one of those fictional detectives I happen to > >like (like Wexford, or Barnaby, or Alleyn, or Bone, or Thanet - a female > >detective makes a nice change). > > Thanet? Thanet!!?? Thanet is a grotty little parcel of land sitting like a > boil on the pimply backside of Kent. I know it's a dump because I live in > it. > > And when it comes to female detectives, give me Kay Scarpetta any day. > > Neil > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 05:29:16 -0000 > From: "Neil Faulkner" > To: "lysator" > Subject: Re: [B7L] worst cast > Message-ID: <007601be2a57$a8fc9740$2a19ac3e@default> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Oh come on, Pat, is that the best you can do? > > BLAKES 7: THE MOVIE > Starring: > > Roj Blake - Rick Moranis > Kerr Avon - Steve Martin > Cally - Ruby Wax > Jenna Stannis - Valerie Perrine > Del Tarrant - David Hasselhoff > Vila Restal - Leonardo DiCapprio > Servalan - Elizabeth Taylor > Travis - Quentin Tarantino > > SPECIAL GUEST ROLE > Justin - Peter Byrne > > Directed by - Sam Peckinpah > Written by - whoever did the screenplay for 'Copycat' (or 'Judge Dredd') > Music by - The Dubliners > Theme song sung by - Mariah Carey > > Any more for any more? > > Neil > > "Do anything you like to the girl but LET ME GO!" > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 04:34:57 -0000 > From: "Neil Faulkner" > To: "lysator" > Subject: Re: [B7L] What does 'Duel' Tell Us... > Message-ID: <007301be2a57$a6f44420$2a19ac3e@default> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Judith wrote > >Why did Travis prefer mutoids? Was it simply because they were well > trained and > >never questioned orders or was there more to it than that? I think he once > >claimed that he felt part mutoid himself because of his cybernetic arm, but > I > >think there was a bit more to it than that. > > > >Was it more that he felt rejected by normal people and thus turned to > mutoids > >because they weren't repelled by him? > > > >And that brings us onto the question of why he refused plastic surgery for > his > >eye. What do you think his motives were there? I think it was a bit more > >complex than the reason he gave Servalan. > > > I seem to recall writing in one of those Stories That Never Get Finished, > "In the ranks of the modified, the half-prosthetic man might still consider > himself human" or something like that. I don't see Travis as feeling > rejected by normal people, more a case of him rejecting them on account of > his disfigurement. Hiding it with cosmetic surgery would be to deny that it > had ever happened, a deceit he could not countenance. (I see Travis as an > extremely honest man in some respects - he might freely resort to subterfuge > to achieve his goals, but would have a total disdain of needless > fripperies). Caught between his honesty and self-revulsion, he could turn > the obvious visibility of his disfigurement into a focal point for his > hatred of the man he deemed responsible (ie; Blake). Not necessarily a > logical train of thought for a military man who could reasonably expect to > be mutilated in the course of duty, but whoever said Travis ought to be > logical? > > Neil > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 02:04:09 PST > From: "Penny Dreadful" > To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se > Subject: Re: [B7L] What does 'Duel' Tell Us... > Message-ID: <19981218100410.29767.qmail@hotmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Judith said: > > > Or to put it another way, he wanted human contact as much as sex. > > Okay. I assume sex is an undercurrent in any male/female interaction, > until proven otherwise. And maybe I read his behaviour as *flirtatious* > (in a deranged sort of way) because of the entire "compare and contrast" > theme of the episode - Travis and the mutoid as Evil Blake and Evil > Jenna. > > >> I think he felt isolated from, and (psychologically) threatened by, > >> normal people even when he was physically "normal". I think he felt > more > >> empathy for the mental processes of mutoids than he did for those of > >> normal people. > > > >Possibly. But why? > > Because normal people's minds tend to be convoluted conglomerations of > wants and fears and dreams (of varying grandiosity levels) of wealth, > love, power, pleasure; not to mention maintenance of various > social/familial relationships. Travis doesn't appear to suffer from such > complications, and he can't understand people who do. For instance he > always seems surprised to see what's going on in Servalan's head, and he > does not like to be surprised. Mutoids, on the other hand, don't have > Ulterior Motives. Travis can predict their behaviour, more or less, they > probably won't surprise him. > > >If he saw himself as a total machine, I don't think he would have been > so > >desperate for revenge. > > He could *see* himself as a machine without *being* a machine, or acting > like one. Wishful thinking. He would *like* to be a machine; he would > like the universe to be clockwork. > > -- Penny "Pocket Freud" Dreadful > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 09:19:22 -0600 (CST) > From: Susan.Moore@uni.edu > To: BLAKES7@lysator.liu.se > Subject: [B7L] Has anyone done a vid to this one? > Message-id: <01J5H7V8O98Y8WWCEB@uni.edu> > > Every time I hear "Learning to Fly" by Pink Floyd, I think about Tarrant. Does > anyone know if someone's done a vid for it? > > The lyrics (from the Lyrics Server, so they may not be 100 percent accurate): > > Learning To Fly > > Into the distance, a ribbon of black > Stretched to the point of no turning back > A flight of fancy on a windswept field > Standing alone my senses reeled > A fatal attraction holding me fast, how > Can I escape this irresistible grasp? > > Can't keep my eyes from the circling skies > Tongue-tied and twisted Just an earth-bound misfit, I > > Ice is forming on the tips of my wings > Unheeded warnings, I thought I thought of everything > No navigator to guide my way home > Unladened, empty and turned to stone > > A soul in tension that's learning to fly > Condition grounded but determined to try > Can't keep my eyes from the circling skies > Tongue-tied and twisted just an earth-bound misfit, I > > Above the planet on a wing and a prayer, > My grubby halo, a vapour trail in the empty air, > Across the clouds I see my shadow fly > Out of the corner of my watering eye > A dream unthreatened by the morning light > Could blow this soul right through the roof of the night > > There's no sensation to compare with this > Suspended animation, A state of bliss > Can't keep my eyes from the circling skies > Tongue-tied and twisted just an earth-bound misfit, I > > From the album: A momentary lapse of reason > > Susan M. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 08:23:53 -0800 > From: Pat Patera > To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > Subject: Re: [B7L] worst cast > Message-ID: <367A8199.4C3F@geocities.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Neil Faulkner wrote: > > Oh come on, Pat, is that the best you can do? > I didn't do that, but passed on a friend's list. I'm not much of a movie > buff, but I'll do my best: > (these celebrities are old - but then so am I!) > > > BLAKES 7: THE MOVIE > > Starring: > > > > Roj Blake - Sylvester Stallone > > Kerr Avon - Woody Allen > > Cally - Goldie Hawn > > Jenna Stannis - Bette Middler > > Del Tarrant - Clint Eastwood > > Vila Restal - O.J. Simpson > > Servalan - Carol Burnett > > Travis - Oprah Winfrey > > > > SPECIAL GUEST ROLE > > > > Directed by - Newt Gingrich > > Written by - whoever did the screenplay for Time Bandits > > Music by - Devo > > Theme song sung by - Tiny Tim > > Psychotic Pat P > PS. Neil, I've greatly enjoyed your long essays on a wide range of B7 > subjects that have been posted here. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 12:37:59 +0100 (BST) > From: Judith Proctor > To: Lysator List > Subject: RE: [B7L] Travis has three faces > Message-ID: > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII > > On Thu 17 Dec, Jacqueline Thijsen wrote: > > In a great story, Judith wrote: > > > > > Blake, who had seen only the eyepatch that distinguished Travis so strongly, > > > and never wondered about the >man behind it. > > > > I'm sorry, Judith, but this is a weak part in your otherwise beautiful story. > > Blake is the one who shot Travis up so that the eyepatch had to be put there. > > The next time he sees a Travis, it is (according to your story) already the > > fake T ravis. The eyepatch would be just as new to Blake as the rest of the > > face, and would t herefore not cause him to mix up the fake Travis with the > > real one. > > Actually, I see 'Weapon' as the weak point. > > I don't think Blake necessarily remembered Travis that clearly. He'd seen him > in a combat situation, but if they'd known one another well, this > conversation might have been different. > > SERVALAN: But why did you never let the surgeons finish the job? > TRAVIS: [Chuckles] What are you suggesting, cosmetic surgery? I'm a > field officer, not one of your decorative staff men. > SERVALAN: You're certainly not decorative. > TRAVIS: You find it repulsive? > SERVALAN: I find it ... unpleasing. > TRAVIS: But memorable. You wouldn't mistake me for anyone else. > SERVALAN: Hardly. > TRAVIS: Mm. Neither will Blake. Even after all this time, he'll know > me, and remember what happened at our first meeting. > > > Blake believed that he would recognise Travis again, but you'd be surprised just > how bad people can be at recognising faces that they've only seen for a short > time (especially after they've had a memory erase). Travis is giving Blake a > key to recognise him by as Blake knows he shot Travis in the face. > > My story really falls down where Blake meets Brian Croucher's Travis in Weapon. > UNless he just figured that Travis had had plastic surgery but they had been > unable to fix his eye. After all, a man with an eyepatch, standing next to > Servalan and obviously wanting to kill Blake does tend to strongly suggest an > identity. It's still the weakest point though. > > Judith > -- > http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 > > Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention > 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent > http://www.smof.com/redemption/ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:42:14 -0600 > From: Reuben Herfindahl > To: "'BL7'" > Subject: [B7L] BLAKES 7: THE MUSICAL MOTION PICTURE > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain > > BLAKES 7: THE MUSICAL MOTION PICTURE > Starring: > > Roj Blake - The guy from Lord of the Dance > Kerr Avon - David Warner > Cally - Claudia Christian > Jenna Stannis - Shelly Long > Gan- Jessie "The Mind" Ventura > Vila Restal - Johnny Dep > Servalan - Debora Watling > Travis - George Cloony > Orac-Voice of Majel Barret > > > Directed by - William Shatner > Written by - Terrance Dicks > Music by - The B52's > Theme song sung by - Boys2Men > > > Idea by Reuben Herfindahl > (tee-hee) > > Reuben > http://www.reuben.net/blake/ > > -------------------------------- > End of blakes7-d Digest V98 Issue #311 > ************************************** > Dita, President and Supreme Commander of the Terran Federation. -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V99 Issue #14 *************************************