From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V99 #273 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume99/273 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 273 Today's Topics: Re: [B7L]Mornington Crescent Re: blakes7-d Digest V99 #272 Re: [B7L] The B7 Movie Re: [B7L] The B7 Movie [B7L] I thought so Re: Re [B7L] The B7 Ball Re: [B7L] Hi Joanne! Re: [B7L]Mornington Crescent Re: [B7L] Assassin video Re: Mornington Crescent Re: [B7L] Assassin video [B7L] Animals Appreciation Re: [B7L] The B7 Movie Re: [B7L] Animals Appreciation Re: [B7L] Animals Appreciation Re: [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V99 #272 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 19:31:50 +0100 From: "Neil Faulkner" To: "lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L]Mornington Crescent Message-ID: <001201bf02cd$3e44a2e0$3714ac3e@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Una wrote: >You talk a good fight, Faulkner. But you just check the ongoing parameters >of the Bellfriar Flip. Bayban's Rules do funny things... That move to >Zondawl doesn't seem so crafty now, does it? Er, well, yes it does, actually. > >Meanwhile, your misplaced confidence leaves me cruising along at a gentle >speed and docking for a refit at Space Command Headquarters. D'ya take milk >and sugar, then? How can my confidence be misplaced when you blatantly declare an illegal move? This is going to be bitter, I can tell. Meanwhile... Caspar ... Palmero ... Oh lawdy, I've never been so spoilt for choice. Asteroid PK-118. (That'll confuse 'em) Neil ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 22:09:58 +0100 From: "Andrew Ellis" To: Subject: Re: blakes7-d Digest V99 #272 Message-ID: <000001bf02e3$970ff3a0$67f9abc3@leanet.futures.bt.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; boundary="----------------------------"; charset="iso-8859-1" Clearly my Mornington Cresent moves are so crafty they are slipping past everybody unseen. Now I'm out towards the edge of the galaxy, its off to Star One with my new StarDrive, and turn off CFC, and all other computer based systems such as Bayban's Rules. Any player without Orac to counteract this move miss one turn. Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 22:21:24 +0100 From: "Andrew Ellis" To: "Una McCormack" , "lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] The B7 Movie Message-ID: <006801bf02e4$efedc780$67f9abc3@leanet.futures.bt.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Una, and the rest of the list, Sorry, There are obviously house rules around other than the polite "no personal attacks" and "no offensive language" types. Could you point me to a WEB site where they are explained, or perhaps send me a message indicating the sort of thing to avoid. Please remember I'm new. Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Una McCormack To: lysator Date: 19 September 1999 00:02 Subject: Re: [B7L] The B7 Movie >Andrew Ellis wrote: > >> Consider the power of Federation space ships in Space Fall, consider the >> advances made by the time of Animals (boo hiss, I won't mention it again) > >Careful now, sir. As it's only a minor infraction, you're allowed to move >along. > > >Una > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 23:12:50 +0100 From: "Una McCormack" To: "lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] The B7 Movie Message-ID: <024a01bf02ec$5822db40$0d01a8c0@hedge> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andrew wrote: >> Consider the power of Federation space ships in Space Fall, consider the >> advances made by the time of Animals (boo hiss, I won't mention it again) > > Una wrote: >> >Careful now, sir. As it's only a minor infraction, you're allowed to move > >along. > > Una, and the rest of the list, > > Sorry, > > There are obviously house rules around other than the polite "no personal > attacks" and "no offensive language" types. Could you point me to a WEB site > where they are explained, or perhaps send me a message indicating the sort > of thing to avoid. Please remember I'm new. Andrew, nothing of the kind, simply a tongue in cheek remark on my part :) I have taken it upon myself to protect the reputation of that too-much-maligned episode, 'Animals', from all and sundry. Normal 'house rules', I guess, involve telling me that I'm a misguided and foolish individual! You're *very* welcome here - and you'll soon get used to us! :) Una ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 08:52:34 EST From: "Joanne MacQueen" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] I thought so Message-ID: <19990919225234.36674.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Saw a familiar looking face in the ads for The Witch's Daughter, on ABC between 5 and 6 last night, so I watched it to make sure. What did I see? One Scottish villager, with beard darker than his hair, played by Gareth Thomas. Pity it was so short a part. Maybe he'll get a bigger part to play as the series goes on. Or maybe he won't. I hope he does. Regards Joanne ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 17:17:26 -0700 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 List Subject: Re: Re [B7L] The B7 Ball Message-ID: <37E57D16.639715B0@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit forgot to change the addy again; sorry, Neil. Neil Faulkner wrote: > In the meantime, Mr and Mrs Plagueship, with their Kalashnikov-toting > daughter, Wanda 'AK-47' Plagueship Ack! I can't believe I just got this. Ack! Heeheehee. Okay, who's the joker that set my brain on infraluminal when I wasn't looking? Mistral -- "Ad hoc, ad loc, and quid pro quo. So little time! So much to know!" --Jeremy Hilary Boob, Ph.D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 12:15:59 EST From: "Joanne MacQueen" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Hi Joanne! Message-ID: <19990920021559.69963.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: Sally Manton >Right, take -THAT...oh damn, dropped it on my foot...Joanne, get back here >and be bludgeoned properly!!! >Sally (who would make Vila look good as Freedom Fighter material ) Surely not! Regards Joanne (groaning over the demands of rhyming and her seriously depleted knowledge of French) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 09:22:24 +0100 From: "Una McCormack" To: "lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L]Mornington Crescent Message-ID: <02bc01bf0341$462e4be0$0d01a8c0@hedge> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Neil wrote: > >Meanwhile, your misplaced confidence leaves me cruising along at a gentle > >speed and docking for a refit at Space Command Headquarters. D'ya take milk > >and sugar, then? > > How can my confidence be misplaced when you blatantly declare an illegal > move? No, no, no. It only becomes illegal when the Jubilee Line extension is finished. > This is going to be bitter, I can tell. Don't worry, Neil, I'll respect you afterwards. > Meanwhile... Caspar ... Palmero ... > > Oh lawdy, I've never been so spoilt for choice. > > Asteroid PK-118. > > (That'll confuse 'em) Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Domo. Una ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 09:45:35 +0100 From: "Una McCormack" To: "Blake's 7 (Lysator)" Subject: Re: [B7L] Assassin video Message-ID: <036e01bf0344$8346add0$0d01a8c0@hedge> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Harriet wrote: > I've just picked up the latest Fab Films video re-release, and discovered > they're now working on entries for a category we forgot to consider when > Calle and I drew up our list of suitable/silly photos to use if we ever got > control of the distribution rights: the spoiler photo! Avon clutching a dying Anna. Una ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 11:44:47 +0100 From: "Una McCormack" To: Subject: Re: Mornington Crescent Message-ID: <04b501bf0355$2a615ab0$0d01a8c0@hedge> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andrew wrote: > Clearly my Mornington Cresent moves are so crafty they are slipping past > everybody unseen. Now I'm out towards the edge of the galaxy, its off to > Star One with my new StarDrive, and turn off CFC, and all other computer > based systems such as Bayban's Rules. Any player without Orac to counteract > this move miss one turn. Curses! Neil and I were so busy pawing the ground I didn't spot you! I retire defeated. Una ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 07:52:24 EDT From: Mac4781@aol.com To: BLAKES7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Assassin video Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Another possible spoiler photo: The crew watching Liberator break up in TERMINAL. Carol Mc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 14:58:54 +0100 From: "Una McCormack" To: "lysator" Cc: "Freedom City" Subject: [B7L] Animals Appreciation Message-ID: <062901bf0370$48096920$0d01a8c0@hedge> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Those wishing to explore the depths of my delusion can now visit: http://www.q-research.connectfree.co.uk/personal/animals.htm Anything in the way of comments, suggestions, and/or ridicule is welcome. Una ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 07:10:33 PDT From: "William Merlock" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] The B7 Movie Message-ID: <19990920141035.88608.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Excellent point! Though B7 didn't venture into the realm of fantasy, it also didn't obsess with technical minutia (as the various discussions on 'spacials' and 'standard by' confirm.) The writers should choose the technology level they want to use and keep it in the background. Besides characterization, the only things I'd like to add are, first, that the dark mood of the show must be maintained. A B7 movie where the "good guys" come out on top would be a major downer to me ;) Second, though the talk has tended to center around Avon and Vila, I'd really like to see Jenna back......... >From: "Andrew Ellis" >To: >Subject: [B7L] The B7 Movie >Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 23:11:43 +0100 > >Here is a thought about the movie. > >Consider the power of Federation space ships in Space Fall, consider the >advances made by the time of Animals (boo hiss, I won't mention it again) >and other S4 episodes. In terms of speed, firepower, physical design etc >etc. The rate of change of technology is quite remarkable. I mean, Avon >makes a simple detector shield using bits and bobs from Radio Shack, which >is viewed as a remarkable advance. This is in a time when we have FTL >travel >etc.. In the space of 10 years or so, we could have widespread teleport >facilities etc. What a difference to the way society operates. So the >military could be very different, society could be very different, >Everything could be different. Indeed, all that can we can insist is >continuous is the characterisation of the lead characters. (I'm sure you've >covered this all before, but what the heck). Since that was one of the best >bits of the show, I would think having one of the main characters in charge >would be a good thing. No more burgers for Vila. > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 17:57:56 +0100 (BST) From: Iain Coleman To: Una McCormack Cc: lysator , Freedom City Subject: Re: [B7L] Animals Appreciation Message-Id: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, Una McCormack wrote: > Those wishing to explore the depths of my delusion can now visit: > > http://www.q-research.connectfree.co.uk/personal/animals.htm > > Anything in the way of comments, suggestions, and/or ridicule is welcome. A lovely site, Una and almost convincing. I think there's one important point missing from your discussion of why "Animals" is so poorly regarded. It 's the amount of screen time given to the really crap bits. You're right that other B7 episodes have flaws in script, production or performance to match those of "Animals", but these will generally be on screen for a short enough time until we cut back to something less risible that the flaws are easier to get past. "Animals" offers these huge scenes with Justin and Dayna which have absolutely no redeeming features, and which go on and on and on and on. That's what makes watching it such a trial. Iain ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 18:06:50 +0100 From: "Una McCormack" To: "lysator" Cc: "Freedom City" Subject: Re: [B7L] Animals Appreciation Message-ID: <001901bf038a$8a9c6a20$0d01a8c0@hedge> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Iain wrote: > A lovely site, Una and almost convincing. That's not bad for something I knocked out this afternoon, then. Bit more effort and you might have been completely persuaded! ;) > I think there's one important > point missing from your discussion of why "Animals" is so poorly regarded. > It 's the amount of screen time given to the really crap bits. You're > right that other B7 episodes have flaws in script, production or > performance to match those of "Animals", but these will generally be on > screen for a short enough time until we cut back to something less risible > that the flaws are easier to get past. "Animals" offers these huge scenes > with Justin and Dayna which have absolutely no redeeming features, and > which go on and on and on and on. That's what makes watching it such a > trial. Yeah, I do mention these bits, I think - the essentially very dull bits of very dull dialogue. My only answer? 'Deliverance' has lots of extended very dull bits with Jenna and the Ape Men and then the tedious scenes watching Young Ensor nod off. Also, as I point out in my review of 10 Episodes Which Are Worse Than 'Animals', 'Breakdown' is substantially a very long, dull, pointless section. Una ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 07:32:44 +0100 From: "Neil Faulkner" To: "lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V99 #272 Message-ID: <000201bf039a$2353bac0$5618ac3e@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andrew Ellis wrote: >Clearly my Mornington Cresent moves are so crafty they are slipping past >everybody unseen. Now I'm out towards the edge of the galaxy, its off to >Star One with my new StarDrive, and turn off CFC, and all other computer >based systems such as Bayban's Rules. Any player without Orac to counteract >this move miss one turn. You might find that a bit difficult, since Star One was destroyed -before- Plaxton perfected her Stardrive. And Bayban's Rules are not computer-based. They are burly, leatherclad and cruel to Vila. And using Orac is cheating, anyway, unless you're prepared to confine yourself to counter-clockwise moves through odd-numbered sectors WITHOUT belayed commands. Neil -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V99 Issue #273 **************************************