From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V99 #48 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume99/48 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 48 Today's Topics: Re: [B7L] Re:Just to say Hi!! Re: [B7L] Re:Just to say Hi!! [B7L] Common People Re: [B7L] Common People [B7L] Re: Fan fiction Re: [B7L] Telepaths and psychic menances in B7 and SF [B7L] Fan fiction [B7L] Deliverance Convention tapes ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:52:48 -0000 From: "Neil Faulkner" To: "lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] Re:Just to say Hi!! Message-ID: <001601be4d01$ec1d45c0$bf16ac3e@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On behalf of us all, Hello Hellen and welcome to the ranks. >I am deeply impressed by Mr. Faulkner's elaborations, concerning the social >and political structure of the Federation. I have been red some works on >the topic (on www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/4667) yet, but these >here are much more detailed. I knew I'd impress someone eventually... They're not elaborations, just speculations. Different people have different ideas and they're all more or less equally valid. >Also it was interesting for me to read about the problem of multilingual >galactic society (raised by Judith Proctor a month ago). Actually, as my >native language isn't English, but Bulgarian (this is something more closer >to the Russian language), I am very concerned with the topic. I'm always intrigued when something like B7 turns up in unexpected places. When was it first broadcast over there (in the communist days, or afterwards?). Was it dubbed or subtitled? What time was it shown - evening primetime, or 2 o'clock in the morning? What kind of audience did it draw? For some strange reason, the amount of Bulgarian telly we get in Britain is ... erm ... well, none, actually. Neil ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:13:17 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: Re: [B7L] Re:Just to say Hi!! Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Helen, > I've been just lurking and reading your discussion for a while (for a few > months, being more correct). Is there some usual etiquette, which I must > follow to introduce myself? Welcome. The usual way to introduce one's self is to do exactly what you've done. > This reminded me to ask: does anyone knows if there are other Blake's 7 - > fans from Eastern Europe? I already know about these, who live in GB, USA, > Australia, Sweden, and, there is one guy from Belgium, but I'd never heard > for B7-devotees from other places. I get a fair pattern of fandom from where I sell zines to. You've picked out the main ones, though I've also sold the occasional zine to Japan, Spain, New Zeeland, The Netherlands and Germany. There's several fans in Germany and the Netherlands that I know. (More than in Sweden). You're the first Bulgarian I've met. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:15:10 -0000 From: "Alison Page" To: "lysator" Subject: [B7L] Common People Message-ID: <000f01be4d1b$f8053860$ca8edec2@alisonpage.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This will only make sense to anyone who knows 'Common People' by Pulp, which as I think I said before, is just about my favourite ever song. I was listening to it yesterday while I was driving, and the following sprang to mind. REBEL PEOPLE He was an Alpha with a thirst for Knowledge, I was a Delta, we were doing porridge That’s when I Caught his eye He said that he could beat the system I stole his credits and he never missed ‘em Which was fine But in thirty seconds’ time He said We’re gonna live like rebel people We’re gonna do whatever rebel people do I wanna live with rebel people Steal a ship and then sail it right out of view Well what else could I do? I said ‘Count me in the crew’ They took me out of Cygnus Alpha I don’t know why, but I was glad to get out of there Anywhere I said to Blake ‘we could enjoy ourselves with all that money’ He just laughed and said ‘Oh, you’re so funny’ I said ‘Yeah, But I don’t think Avon’s laughing. Do you?’ Are you sure… You wanna live like rebel people Do the things that other rebel people do? On the run with the rebel people When everybody’s shooting at you. But he didn’t understand, With his weapon in his hand. Leave your cosy Alpha dome, Take a space ship for a home, You might think it’s all a lark When we’re fighting in the dark In the dream where you exist. It’s no wonder I get pissed, Pretend I never went to school, Act like everybody’s fool: I’ve got nothing left to lose, And so in the end I’ll choose To go along with the rebel people Do the things the other rebel people do Laugh along with the rebel people While I watch my life slide out of view While I steal and drink and screw Because there's nothing else to do I'll leave the fighting up to you And the others in the crew One day the Fed's will get me too And the rebel people like you Rebel people like you. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:42:14 -0000 From: "Fiona Scarlett" To: "Alison Page" , "lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] Common People Message-ID: <014201be4d3b$384e0900$735795c1@acer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >This will only make sense to anyone who knows 'Common People' by Pulp, which >as I think I said before, is just about my favourite ever song. I was >listening to it yesterday while I was driving, and the following sprang to >mind. Alison - this is BRILLIANT! - It scans so well with the original that I'm gonna have these lyrics in my head whenever I hear this song now. >He just laughed and said ‘Oh, you’re so funny’ >I said ‘Yeah, >But I don’t think Avon’s laughing. Do you?’ ROFL........I can't believe how well this works..........sheer blinding brilliance my dear!!! Fifitrix ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Jan 99 18:26:00 GMT From: s.thompson8@genie.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: Fan fiction Message-Id: <199901311850.SAA29242@rock103.genie.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" One gen series that hasn't yet been mentioned and that is one of my personal favorites is Judith Seaman's fifth/sixth season stories, =Program= and =Ghost=. They are available from the author, whose address is in the Horizon newsletter, the Avon club newsletter, etc. Unfortunately the series isn't finished, but the stories are sufficiently independent to be very readable anyway. The story is very Avon-centered and heavy on angst, but there are also many wonderful science-fictional touches and complicated and interesting plot developments of a kind that is relatively rare in fan fiction and that I like very much. A =must= for Avon fans, and recommended for other people as well (unless you are a devoted Blake fan; it's PGP and he doesn't appear). If you like the story, please write to the author (she's not on line) and beg her to continue it! She's gotten interested in other things lately-- is writing Westerns, I hear-- but since Narrelle was kind enough to provide us with more of =Phoenix= after a long wait, I'm hopeful that Judith S. might be willing to do something similar. Another top gen (it has sex both hetero and homo, but only off-screen) favorite of mine is the "Hellhound" series, a wonderfully flashy, melodramatic, action-packed fifth series which has appeared as a serial in the =Southern Seven= zines. This one has especially good Avon-Blake interaction and so is highly recommended for Blake fans as well as Avon fans. In fact, all the characters are well handled (except Gan, who doesn't appear; Cally's gone too, but one of her clone sisters appears). =Southern Seven= is the other enormous anthology zine besides =Gambit=, sure to have something for every taste even if you don't like everything in it. Both are available from Linda Knights (either direct from her, or through Judith in Britain or Pat Fenech in Australia). A good way to investigate fan fiction might be to get one of these, see what you like and don't like, and then look for more by your favorite authors, and/or ask for recommendations of similar stories. There is lots of information about Hellhound on the Ashton Press web page, which you can reach via a link from Judith's web page. The series is extremely long and is not yet quite finished, but it is approaching the grand finale; there is just one book of stories left to go, and I hear it is at least half finished already. Many people are eagerly awaiting it. For fans who are curious about slash but not sure whether they would like it or not, I strongly recommend Pat Jacquerie's Avon/Tarrant novella, "Duty," available on paper in =Southern Comfort= (the adult companion to =Southern Seven=) #9.5 and on line in the author's personal archive (again, there's a link from Judith's web page). This is a very gentle, sweet (but not gooey-- more bittersweet, with a very authentic B7 feel) story that leads up gradually to some very hot explicit sex scenes. Even some fans who are not especially interested in slash, but also don't have any objection to it as such, like this story for the character interaction, the interesting portrayal of an alien society, and the elegant writing style. And if you read it and like it, by all means e-mail the author and tell her so! Ditto for any story that you like. The more positive feedback writers get, the more likely they are to produce more wonderful stories for us to read. Another slash story that is often mentioned as excellent even by non-slash fans is "Chimera" by Thomas, an Avon/Blake story in =Southern LIghts Special= (the predecessor of =Southern Comfort=) #4.5. If you aren't interested in slash but think you might like explicit heterosexual erotica, you want =Straight Blake's=. Issues #1 and 2 are available from Linda Knights and #3 from Jo Ann McCoy (Maverick Press). All are good, but I especially like #2. It has "Hearts of Glass," a fourth- season Dayna/Vila (!) story that I think is one of the most heartbreakingly beautiful B7 stories ever written. And if you like both het adult =and= slash, then you can't do better than Susan Cutter's fourth-season novel =May King=, new from Straight Up Press. It's got sex of just about every imaginable kind (but no furry sex, come to think of it-- sorry, Steve!), plot, and science-fictional social commentary, all in one terrific package. (Neil, you might like this one.) Sarah T. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:36:21 -0600 From: Lisa Williams To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Telepaths and psychic menances in B7 and SF Message-Id: <199901311932.NAA26460@mail.dallas.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Neil Faulkner wrote: >Now if you'll excuse me, I wish to vent my frustration on an innocent small >furry animal. You'll have to talk to Steve about that; he's already got the teddy bears cornered. And the sheep. - Lisa _____________________________________________________________ Lisa Williams: lcw@dallas.net or lwilliams@rsc.raytheon.com Lisa's Video Frame Capture Library: http://lcw.simplenet.com/ New Riders of the Golden Age: http://www.warhorse.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 07:38:44 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: [B7L] Fan fiction Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Sun 31 Jan, s.thompson8@genie.com wrote: > One gen series that hasn't yet been mentioned and that is one of my personal > favorites is Judith Seaman's fifth/sixth season stories, =Program= and > =Ghost=. They are available from the author, whose address is in the > Horizon newsletter, the Avon club newsletter, etc. Unfortunately the series > isn't finished, but the stories are sufficiently independent to be very > readable anyway. The story is very Avon-centered and heavy on angst, but > there are also many wonderful science-fictional touches and complicated and > interesting plot developments of a kind that is relatively rare in fan > fiction and that I like very much. A =must= for Avon fans, and recommended > for other people as well (unless you are a devoted Blake fan; it's PGP and > he doesn't appear). I really enjoyed this series myself, but I think the odds of the last volume ever being writen must be getting close to zero. It's been five or six years now since she wrote any of it. Judith Seaman writes some of the best Avon angst around. She can be slow mailing stuff, so don't be surprised if zines take a long while to appear. > > Another top gen (it has sex both hetero and homo, but only off-screen) > favorite of mine is the "Hellhound" series, a wonderfully flashy, > melodramatic, action-packed fifth series which has appeared as a serial in > the =Southern Seven= zines. This one has especially good Avon-Blake > interaction and so is highly recommended for Blake fans as well as Avon > fans. In fact, all the characters are well handled (except Gan, who doesn't > appear; Cally's gone too, but one of her clone sisters appears). I'm hoping that we'll get a collected volume of Hellhound from Ashton Press when it's complete. I actually like the original characters in Hellhound, which is probably a good thing as the series characters are heavily outnumbered in later volumes! > =Southern Seven= is the other enormous anthology zine besides =Gambit=, sure > to have something for every taste even if you don't like everything in it. > Both are available from Linda Knights (either direct from her, or through > Judith in Britain or Pat Fenech in Australia). A good way to investigate > fan fiction might be to get one of these, see what you like and don't like, > and then look for more by your favorite authors, and/or ask for > recommendations of similar stories. Southern Seven (apart from the last volume) tends to have excellent art work. I always felt that Gambit had slightly better stories, but if you enjoy good artwork, Southern Seven wins hands down. > If you aren't interested in slash but think you might like explicit > heterosexual erotica, you want =Straight Blake's=. Issues #1 and 2 are > available from Linda Knights and #3 from Jo Ann McCoy (Maverick Press). All > are good, but I especially like #2. It has "Hearts of Glass," a fourth- > season Dayna/Vila (!) story that I think is one of the most heartbreakingly > beautiful B7 stories ever written. Seconded. Dayna/Vila is not a pairing I thought I'd ever enjoy, but that story is very believable and beautiful. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 09:54:52 EST From: Mac4781@aol.com To: space-city@world.std.com, blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Deliverance Convention tapes Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I told the Deliverance 98 ConCom I was putting an ad for the tapes in the Tarrant APA and Diane asked if I could also send the info to the lists, since she's not had a chance to put the word out yet. --------------------- DELIVERANCE CONVENTION VIDEOS Horizon is currently taking advance orders for Deliverance Convention Videos. Tapes are of professional quality and will be professionally reproduced (which is why Horizon needs to know how many copies to make in advance). The VHS tapes will be available in both PAL (England/Australia broadcasting system) and NTSC (US system) formats. The committee is anticipating three videotapes, one with edited highlights from the entire convention and two with fuller versions of the best panels. Deposits of 5 pounds per tape and a SAE (or 2 IRC's or $1 bill for overseas) should be sent to Margaret Cliff, 22 Parkside, Trentham, Stoke on Trent ST4 8SR, UK. Deposits are nonrefundable unless the final price is above the anticipated 12-15 pounds per tape. There will be a special discount for anyone purchasing all three tapes. Everyone placing a pre-order will be notified when to the pay the balance due and the final price. At this time an exact list of what is on each tape will be provided. If you decide you want only one tape but have put a deposit on all three, you will be allowed to use the deposits to pay for the single tape. Tapes may be available after the main order has been completed. But to be certain of obtaining copies, send your deposit by February 20, 1999. Sterling checks payable to Deliverance 98. Checks drawn on US banks payable to Horizon, The B7 Appreciation Society. All proceeds will be going to the convention charities. ------------- Also, Diane told me they'd only be able to do NTSC tapes if they got enough orders to justify the conversion, so NTSC users in particular might want to consider advance orders. Carol Mc -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V99 Issue #48 *************************************