From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V99 #85 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume99/85 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 85 Today's Topics: Re: [B7L] Zine help? was Re: Mary Sues [B7L] Bad news Re: [B7L] Bad news [B7L] Re: Zine help [B7L] Zine help? -> PGP Re: [B7L] Avon & Vena (was Re:Allure...) Re: [B7L] Run for the hills... [B7L] Berkeley Personality Profile Re: [B7L] Career change? Re: [B7L] Career change? [B7L] Sex Kittens of Virn Re: [B7L] Zine help? was Re: Mary Sues Re: [B7L] Run for the hills... Re: [B7L] Sex Kittens of Virn [B7L] Virn and Hills Re: [B7L] Virn and Hills Re: [B7L] Career change? Re: [B7L] Virn and Hills [B7L] Myers Briggs RE: [B7L] Career change? Re: [B7L] Career change? Re: [B7L] Career change? [B7L] "Aftermath" in frame library ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 10:12:50 +1100 From: Kathryn Andersen To: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: Re: [B7L] Zine help? was Re: Mary Sues Message-ID: <19990227101250.63989@welkin.apana.org.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii And now, of course, I've had *more* thoughts! On Fri, Feb 26, 1999 at 08:07:54AM -0800, mistral@ptinet.net wrote: > > Characters I prefer: Blake-Jenna-Avon-Vila-Soolin, in no particular > order; I like the others too, just can't find much commonality with > them. My favorite viewpoint is a really well written Vila, he seems to > notice things and have insights the others wouldn't naturally have; > also Soolin-- they both seem natural observers and commenters on life. Unfortunately, Soolin is a very neglected character in fanfic; I can't really think of any stories that take her as a viewpoint character. Hmmm, one, a short, which I liked, called "These Dreams", which I can't for the life of me remember what zine it was in. If you want Vila, he gets a big role in the Deltah-Base stories in _The Seven Live On_. They started in issue 1. It's a PGP. One of the optimistic ones. And on the PGP front, how could I have forgotten "Key" by Jenny Hayward and Marie Logan? It's one of my most re-read zines! Originally appeared in _Enarrare_ 5-7, it was reprinted in _Chronicles_ 56/57/58 (a triple issue) and should still be available.(*) It concentrates on Avon, but has some good Vila bits. One good Vila bit? And a tricksy plot. Avon has partial amnesia - he doesn't remember shooting Blake. He's in Servalan's hands, she's found Orac, but its key is missing. Lots of people are interested in Avon, with secret agendas of their own. Who is friend and who is foe? And where does Avon's brother fit in to all this? (*) I did the illos and layout of the Enarrare' edition, and the illos and cover of the Chronicles edition, and wish the layout of the Chronicles edition had been done better. Oh well, can't have everything. The cover was yummy, even if I say so myself. Another good Avon PGP is "Crucible" by Michelle Douglas in _Dark Between The Stars_ 2. I got my copy second-hand, so I don't know if it's still in print. The supporting characters are a bit flat, but I like the Avon stuff in it. (IMHO, the story needs a good rewrite, but I enjoyed it nonetheless). Does anyone know if Michelle ever wrote a sequel? Does anyone know Michelle Douglas's address, so I can nag her to write a sequel? Kathryn Andersen (who's supposed to be working on sequels herself...) -- _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen / \ | http://home.connexus.net.au/~kat \_.--.*/ | #include "standard/disclaimer.h" v | ------------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere Maranatha! | -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 19:44:16 -0600 (EST) From: Tegan Brandi To: space-city@world.std.com, B7 list Subject: [B7L] Bad news Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if you haven't heard, Babylon 5 - Crusade is officially no longer going to happen. *pout* No new B7 avatars on tv. Apparently, TNT wan't behind the production the way that JMS wanted, they went looking for SciFi Channel to pick it up, and SFC couldn't afford it, having spent all thir money for the year. Instead of doing something he doesn't believe in, JMS has stopped production on the show and the actors have been released from their contracts. The 13 episodes that are in the can are going to be aired, and if ratings are good there might be a second season, but we shouldn't hold our breathe. For now, JMS is going off to do someting for a major network. This seriously bums me out. B7's influence on B5 is what got me to watch B7 in the first place, and I was looking forward to seeing the two universes collide. tegan (*) tegan@goddess.coe.missouri.edu http://goddess.coe.missouri.edu/~tegan Surreality is syrupy. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 20:54:57 EST From: SupeStud00@aol.com To: tegan@goddess.coe.missouri.edu, space-city@world.std.com, blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Bad news Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/26/99 8:53:00 PM EST, tegan@goddess.coe.missouri.edu writes: << I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if you haven't heard, Babylon 5 - Crusade is officially no longer going to happen. *pout* No new B7 avatars on tv. Apparently, TNT wan't behind the production the way that JMS wanted, they went looking for SciFi Channel to pick it up, and SFC couldn't afford it, having spent all thir money for the year. Instead of doing something he doesn't believe in, JMS has stopped production on the show and the actors have been released from their contracts. The 13 episodes that are in the can are going to be aired, and if ratings are good there might be a second season, but we shouldn't hold our breathe. For now, JMS is going off to do someting for a major network. This seriously bums me out. B7's influence on B5 is what got me to watch B7 in the first place, and I was looking forward to seeing the two universes collide. >> Arrrgggghhhhh! I can't believe it. Incidentally, Tegan, do you by any chance resemble the character Tegan Jovanka from Dr. Who (she was a companion.) If so, are you available? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 99 04:51:00 GMT From: s.thompson8@genie.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: Zine help Message-Id: <199902270456.EAA17637@rock103.genie.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Mistral, I think you'll really like the Bizarro and Cheeseboard zines. The latter are an example of something that could be construed as a Mary Sue but that nearly everyone likes anyway. =Renaissance= I haven't seen yet, of course, but it sounds promising. Alternate Universe (AU) stories with a historical setting are relatively rare in B7 fan fiction; there are only a few of them so far. You might consider some of Judith's reprints of fannish classics. I especially like =The Road to Hell=, a collection of stories by Suzan Lovett that have wonderfully intense Blake-Avon interaction. The =Jabberwocky= series by Sheila Paulson is not exactly a PGP but rather an alternate fourth series in which Cally does not die on Terminal after all. Anything by Sheila Paulson is guaranteed to be well written and usually fairly cheerful, as B7 fan fiction goes. Probably my top favorite of her stories is a B-A story, "Game of Humanity" in =Probability Square=, a zine that is still available in a reprint edition from Linda Knights (though you may want to look for a used copy of a first edition in order to get the best possible quality of reproduction on the scrumptious Lovett illos that accompany the story). There's also a sequel to it in one of the =Blake's Doubles= zines. =The Machiavelli Factor= by EPS is another alternate post-Terminal story, very complicated and interesting, as is anything by the same author. I second Kathryn's recommendation of "The Pattern of Infinity" in the big =Enarrare= zine, but you may have to hunt a bit to find it. I did see a slightly battered used copy for sale last year at MediaWest. I think it's a wonderful story. It is very Avon-centered, though, so some fans of other characters find it less interesting. Among my own top favorites are the =Program= and Ghost= PGP series by Judith Seaman. The series is not finished but is very readable anyway. I like it partly for its unusually high degree of SFishness and partly because Avon suffers beautifully and at length. A must for get-Avon fans. I also very much like the Hellhound series, a very long PGP series that has appeared in various zines from Ashton Press (available through LInda Knights). It is different in many ways from the original B7, but I find it plausible and highly enjoyable. See the Ashton Press website for details (I don't have the url on hand, but you can get there from Judith's page). And remember that there are at least two excellent PGP series available on line, Narrelle's =Phoenix= and J. Kel's =Pattern of Infinity= (the latter in the fan fiction archive run by Vickie McManus, also reachable from Judith's page). Be sure to check those out too! Sarah T. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 21:15:58 PST From: "Sally Manton" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Zine help? -> PGP Message-ID: <19990227051602.25305.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-type: text/plain mistral@ptinet.net wrote: To which Kathryn replied - So who do you *want* to have survived, Mistral? My view (once I had forgiven everyone concerned for the ending - it only took me 20 years!!!) was that I don't know. Not even about Blake. I don’t *have* to know. As far as PGP stories are concerned, I take the view that only three survivors are really necessary (for dramatic purposes, you understand) Avon (um - of course) and Blake (and I don’t care what Gareth Thomas’ contract said, if no one actually checked and made sure he was dead, he might not be) to make way for an almighty explosion between two badly damaged, very dangerous and seriously pissed off men - and poor Vila, stuck in the middle with precious little if any trust in either of them anymore. I do think Tarrant should survive long enough to let Avon know *what* happened to him (fuelling said explosion with a vengeance). The aftershocks could have filled a whole novel - or a season - quite easily. <_The Road to Hell and Other Stories_ is excellent, a "best of" Suzanne Lovett.> The Road to Hell is my favourite story so far. All the characters are pretty close to the way I see them, especially Blake and Avon. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 02:03:18 EST From: Pherber@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon & Vena (was Re:Allure...) Message-ID: <1e15652b.36d798b6@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/26/99 12:45:14 PM Mountain Standard Time, mistral@ptinet.net writes: > many people see an Avon/Cally connection -- remember in > the early eps, when he just looked quietly at her a lot? One of my favorite Avon/Cally scenes is in "The Web", when she finds him taking the teleport apart. He's obviously startled by her, then goes sort of quiet and looks at her with a *very* speculative expression - you can practically see the wheels spinning in his head as he tries to figure out why she's coming on to him and how to react. Another glimpse of the "real" Kerr Avon, I think -- a little shy and appealingly geeky. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 02:03:24 EST From: Pherber@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Run for the hills... Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/26/99 5:37:29 AM Mountain Standard Time, Mac4781@aol.com writes: > > Here's a story about a man named Roj > > Who wanted his freedom so very much > > He liked engineering, held his head high > > And he hated the Feds but he didn't know why > > No doubt because of the "Here's a story" beginning, I sang this verse to the > tune of The Beverly Hillbillies theme. Try it, except for the second line, > where some syllables have to be drawn out, it works pretty well. I want you to know what a truly evil suggestion this was...I read this before I went to work this morning and the bloody thing's been tormenting me all day! Nina ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 02:03:27 EST From: Pherber@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Berkeley Personality Profile Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/24/99 10:09:12 PM Mountain Standard Time, Betty writes: > So, there you have it, Avon's Berkeley Personality Profile, from the > "too much time on my hands" files. :) I hope this was all of interest > to *someone*... Welcome, Betty! This *is* interesting, definitely a different approach. Thank you for the effort. Nina Time to do more research! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 02:03:23 EST From: Pherber@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Career change? Message-ID: <68fbcee4.36d798bb@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/26/99 6:22:56 AM Mountain Standard Time, csm80316@port.ac.uk writes: > > > Techno-wizard? Hmmm...Now there's a thought - Avon as a technomage! They'd > > > have to give up the no-hair rule, though. > > Not to sure about the hair. Have you *seen* Paul lately? I think he'd > make a great Technomage, JMS should sign him up. Unfortunately, us poor Yanks don't get to see Paul very often if at all. I think he'd make a fabulous Technomage! Or maybe a Centauri...can you imagine him and Londo at a Centauri banquet? Nina ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:16:24 -0800 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 list Subject: Re: [B7L] Career change? Message-ID: <36D79BC8.24988755@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pherber@aol.com wrote: > Unfortunately, us poor Yanks don't get to see Paul very often if at all. I > think he'd make a fabulous Technomage! Or maybe a Centauri...can you imagine > him and Londo at a Centauri banquet? LOL, Nina, he would make a perfect Centauri. Especially since they consider themselves such ladies' men Mistral -- "And for my next trick, I shall swallow my other foot."--Vila ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:28:56 EST From: Mac4781@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Sex Kittens of Virn Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Now that I've got your attention... Practicing yet more cyberspace conservation, I'm tossing together a mix of replies that don't include any references to Virn, sex, or kittens. But I couldn't think of any "subject" headers that I've not already used when I combine posts. Mistral wrote: > Notice, please, how the godmother of the Tarrant Nostra evilly tempted me in > by > offering to lower Tarrant's scores, and than ran away to safety. I prefer the term strategic withdrawal. ;) With quotes from Russ on "Wild Man Kerr": > > I'd go along with this except for one thing. He's not wild enough! He's > > always urging caution, complaining about the risks undertaken and > > generally being very careful with his own life. > > Tries to tango with an asteroid? Goes to Malodar with a gun but no * > bracelets*? > Walks into the slave camp himself, and alone? Goes to Terminal alone? A member of the Tarrant APA recently, and perceptively, pointed out that Avon has a major weakness. He can't resist the lure of a trap. He thinks Terminal is a trap; off he goes, full steam ahead. "Assassin" is another trap he charged into. He suspected a trap in "Gold," and I think that made the scheme all the more appealing to him. Sally wrote: > I do think Tarrant should survive long enough to let Avon know > *what* happened to him (fuelling said explosion with a vengeance). Poor Tarrant. He's been reduced to a plot device. Well, at least Sally thinks Avon will be sorry that Tarrant was so mistreated, or so I'm guessing. Some PGPs have Avon reacting "if Tarrant weren't dead, I'd kill him for his mistake," forgetting that Tarrant was just a pawn in Blake's testing program. A badly injured and very heroic pawn, I might add. Nina wrote: > I want you to know what a truly evil suggestion this was...I read this > before I went to work this morning and the bloody thing's been tormenting me > all day! Sorry about that... :) Those silly tunes do have a way of sticking with us, don't they? Carol Mc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:28:54 EST From: Mac4781@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Zine help? was Re: Mary Sues Message-ID: <46b020c9.36d7f316@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Mistral wrote: > I am willing to read just about anything gen except to > *unknowingly* read a Mary-Sue, which in fact I would also read if it had a > good > story and I had a chance to erect some internal emotional walls first. I think part of the problem in regard to "labeling" (for warning purposes) Mary Sues is in the definition of what constitutes a Mary Sue, which varies according to individual readers. Are all ocfs (original character, female) who get involved with the regulars Mary Sues? Are only SuperCharacter ocfs (not only get involved with the crew but have all the answers to all the problems) Mary Sues? Also, for my tastes, I've read stories where I thought Servalan, Cally, etc. were turned into Mary Sues (endowed with too many of the writer's feelings, and hence no longer in character as I see them in the show). On the good side, for you, there aren't a lot of overly blatant MSs in print zines that I can recall (mind you, my memory is better at recalling stories I've loved, and read and reread, rather than stories I've not liked). I can only recall two zines (as in a series of zines from the same editors) that have a consistently high proportion of ocfs: Rebel and Oracle. > My taste in B7 fanfic is fairly catholic, although I would prefer to begin > with > things that resemble episodes, and more humorous than dark -- just for > starters; I > like dark too, but sometimes I have to be careful what I feed my brain; I'd > like > to have nice things to read on hand first. You don't like to make things difficult, do you? Resemble episodes and more humorous than dark don't exactly go together. ;-) > Characters I prefer: Blake-Jenna-Avon-Vila-Soolin, Not to mention make it impossible for me to help. I notice a distinct lack of Tarrant in that list. But I see that more knowledgeable others have shared specific recommendations with you. I'd add a recommendation that you pick up a couple of anthology zines to get a feel for authors/exact stories. Most mega-anthology zines should contain a proportion of stories that you'll like (maybe even fall in love with). Horizon zines tend to have stories that are more like episodes. US anthology zines tend more toward exploring the characters beyond what we saw on screen. Anthology zines usually also have a mix of light and dark. A practical way to explore zines is to buy used. If you go to any major media con you can often find very good bargains ($20 zines selling for $5-10). Last month, Roseanne Postelnek told us about the upcoming Internet Zine Sale by the Revelcon group. I popped in on it last year and there were B7 bargains available. If you need that URL, let me know and I'll send it along. I very much second Sarah's recommendation of the on-line zine Phoenix. It's top quality. Also, Vickie's site, which includes stories from out-of-print zines. If you are into Avon-Vila, which I kind of gathered from some of your posts , the A-V authors I've enjoyed who immediately come to mind are Kathy Hintze and the collaborative duo of Annie Wortham and Leah Rosenthal. Speaking of which, Annie and Leah have fiction archived on their web site which you might want to check out. I absolutely adore their "The Play's the Thing"--which is episodic in feel, includes touches of humor, and explores the characters. All right--stop shining the lights in my face--I'll confess. The story also has wonderful Tarrant in it, but it's hard to completely avoid him when reading fanfic ;). Another web site with archived zine fic that I'd recommend is Jean Graham's. Carol Mc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:33:38 -0500 From: Susan Beth To: blake7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Run for the hills... Message-Id: <3.0.4.32.19990227083338.00e71ef4@world.std.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Pherber@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 2/26/99 5:37:29 AM Mountain Standard Time, Mac4781@aol.com >writes: > >> > Here's a story about a man named Roj >> > Who wanted his freedom so very much >> > He liked engineering, held his head high >> > And he hated the Feds but he didn't know why >> >> No doubt because of the "Here's a story" beginning, I sang this verse to >the >> tune of The Beverly Hillbillies theme. Try it, except for the second line, >> where some syllables have to be drawn out, it works pretty well. > > I want you to know what a truly evil suggestion this was...I read this >before I went to work this morning and the bloody thing's been tormenting me >all day! > This is *weird*, because when I read it what popped into my mind was the theme song for the Brady Bunch -- and it pretty much works for that, too, with syllables rushed instead of drawn out.... Susan Beth (sbs@world.std.com) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 06:14:37 -0800 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 list Subject: Re: [B7L] Sex Kittens of Virn Message-ID: <36D7FDCC.6D397581@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mac4781@aol.com wrote: > A member of the Tarrant APA recently, and perceptively, pointed out that Avon > has a major weakness. He can't resist the lure of a trap. He thinks Terminal > is a trap; off he goes, full steam ahead. "Assassin" is another trap he > charged into. He suspected a trap in "Gold," and I think that made the scheme > all the more appealing to him. Ha, ha. Yes, I hadn't thought about that; generally traps set by Servalan, and generally with Avon-specific bait. Tarrant, OTOH, falls into any old trap set by any old ordinary enemy -- Ultraworld, Harvest, City, Sarcophagus. > Poor Tarrant. He's been reduced to a plot device. Not at all! Tarrant was always a plot device :) Mistral -- "And for my next trick, I shall swallow my other foot."--Vila ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 10:45:28 EST From: Mac4781@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Virn and Hills Message-ID: <2685aebe.36d81318@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Mistral wrote: > Ha, ha. Yes, I hadn't thought about that; generally traps set by Servalan, > and > generally with Avon-specific bait. Tarrant, OTOH, falls into any old trap > set by > any old ordinary enemy -- Ultraworld, Harvest, City, Sarcophagus. It's a wonder the third and fourth season crews survived as long as they did with two such reckless boy wonders directing operations. What seems to be their saving grace is that Avon and Tarrant usually took turns at reckless behaviors. Though they both would have ended up as Cancer bait if Soolin hadn't been on the scene. My favorite reckless Tarrant moment is when he runs *toward* the bomb that is about to explode in "Warlord." > Not at all! Tarrant was always a plot device :) Might I urge everyone to send condolences to Mistral's family and friends in anticipation of her premature demise. A universe...er...list without her will take a certain amount of getting used to. ;) Susan Beth shared: > This is *weird*, because when I read it what popped into my mind was the > theme song for the Brady Bunch -- and it pretty much works for that, too, > with syllables rushed instead of drawn out.... It does! This is scary. We are left with: 1. Are all tv theme songs actually the same tune? and 2. How many musically challenged fans attempt to fit filks to tunes they know? Carol Mc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:23:41 -0800 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 list Subject: Re: [B7L] Virn and Hills Message-ID: <36D81C0C.97B817BF@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mac4781@aol.com wrote: > It's a wonder the third and fourth season crews survived as long as they did > with two such reckless boy wonders directing operations. What seems to be > their saving grace is that Avon and Tarrant usually took turns at reckless > behaviors. Though they both would have ended up as Cancer bait if Soolin > hadn't been on the scene. 'Ray Soolin! But the real reason the boy (Tarrant) and the wonder (Avon) ;-) didn't get everybody killed sooner is that the real hero (Vila) was always sheltering them in the umbrella of his luck -- he must be of Irish descent. Vila is obviously the centerpiece of the band, being the only character who appears in all 52 episodes. ;-P Mistral -- "And for my next trick, I shall swallow my other foot."--Vila ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 12:13:03 -0700 From: Helen Krummenacker To: B7 list 1 Subject: Re: [B7L] Career change? Message-ID: <36D84372.1DF9@jps.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mistral@ptinet.net wrote: > > Pherber@aol.com wrote: > > > Unfortunately, us poor Yanks don't get to see Paul very often if at all. I > > think he'd make a fabulous Technomage! Or maybe a Centauri...can you imagine > > him and Londo at a Centauri banquet? > > LOL, Nina, he would make a perfect Centauri. Especially since they consider > themselves such ladies' men > I can picture it now. A splendid ridge of hair, except for this gap in the center... a coat cut in the approved Regency-style men's formal wear, made of pure black leather. A silver lame sash runs crosswise, shoulder to knee, indicating his high rank. And around all edges of the coat, a line of white piping and a double row of silver studs. He surveys himself in a mirror with an off-kilter smile. "I thought my career was dead after I got stuck on a ship with that mad rebel, Blaicoroggi. Fortunately, the new Emperor had no love of the old, and I might be able to regain my ministry in the financial sector. V'lan!" He snaps his fingers, and the Narn, a free soul who preffered life in a civilization where there were things worth stealing, brushed his own drab clothing (which held an assortment of useful, hidden things) into place, and handed Avon Kerronoli his ornate sword cane. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 12:28:23 -0700 From: Helen Krummenacker To: B7 list 1 Subject: Re: [B7L] Virn and Hills Message-ID: <36D84757.4065@jps.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mistral@ptinet.net wrote: > > 'Ray Soolin! But the real reason the boy (Tarrant) and the wonder (Avon) ;-) > didn't get everybody killed sooner is that the real hero (Vila) was always > sheltering them in the umbrella of his luck -- he must be of Irish descent. Vila > is obviously the centerpiece of the band, being the only character who appears in > all 52 episodes. ;-P You're right! Vila is Mr. Lucky, isn't he? I would say it's the Rincewind connection, myself. (The Lady tosses 7s)-- You know, I had never seent hem as very similiar until it was brought up on the list, and later the Flat Robin. Now, I will never think of Rinsewind without seeing Michael Keating's face. I may need to open a special safehouse, a refuge for fugitives from the Tarrant Nostra. Such _dangerous_ fans the gangly one has.Well, I suppose those with a teeth-fetish would develop a nasty bite. --Avona fires and dives for cover ------------------------------ Date: 27 Feb 1999 11:25:01 -0800 From: "Ma.James" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Myers Briggs Message-ID: >Russ wrote: >I hate this Myers-Briggs thing. Am I the only one deleting all >these posts? Nope! I seem to be deleting 90% of the lysator posts. Anything that has Myers Briggs in the title and anything from Vick. I notice that Cynthia is doing the same thing. Not that I have anything against Myers Briggs or Vick, I would simply rather base my interpretations of the characters on what I see on the screen rather than on a questionable personality test. So I'm deleting, deleting, deleting... Again, let me stress, this is not any kind of dislike or contempt for Vick. It's just that I know anything from him will be colored by Myers Briggs and *I* don't want to 'hear' it. For me, the whole Myers Briggs thing is boring. Gee, I never thought I'd hear myself say that *anything* on lysator was boring... Candace ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 21:22:22 +0100 From: Jacqueline Thijsen To: B7 list 1 Subject: RE: [B7L] Career change? Message-ID: <39DCDDFD014ED21185C300104BB3F99F10FB4F@NL-ARN-MAIL01> Content-Type: text/plain Avona wrote: > "I thought my career was dead after I got stuck on a ship with that mad > rebel, Blaicoroggi. Fortunately, the new Emperor had no love of the old, > and I might be able to regain my ministry in the financial sector. > V'lan!" He snaps his fingers, and the Narn, a free soul who preffered > life in a civilization where there were things worth stealing, brushed > his own drab clothing (which held an assortment of useful, hidden > things) into place, and handed Avon Kerronoli his ornate sword cane. > I love this! Maybe we can do a B7-B5 crossover when we're done with the discworld? Jacqueline ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 14:16:17 -0700 From: Helen Krummenacker To: B7 list 1 Subject: Re: [B7L] Career change? Message-ID: <36D860A2.41F0@jps.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jacqueline Thijsen wrote: > > Avona wrote: > > > "I thought my career was dead after I got stuck on a ship with that mad > > rebel, Blaicoroggi. Fortunately, the new Emperor had no love of the old, > > and I might be able to regain my ministry in the financial sector. > > V'lan!" He snaps his fingers, and the Narn, a free soul who preffered > > life in a civilization where there were things worth stealing, brushed > > his own drab clothing (which held an assortment of useful, hidden > > things) into place, and handed Avon Kerronoli his ornate sword cane. > > > I love this! Maybe we can do a B7-B5 crossover when we're done with the > discworld? > > Jacqueline Bwahahahaha! My sinister plan to lure other fans into a new story idea worked! --Avona ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:32:49 -0800 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 list Subject: Re: [B7L] Career change? Message-ID: <36D86481.6CCC3E7@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Avona wrote: > V'lan!" He snaps his fingers, and the Narn, a free soul who preffered > life in a civilization where there were things worth stealing, brushed > his own drab clothing (which held an assortment of useful, hidden > things) into place, and handed Avon Kerronoli his ornate sword cane. More, Avona! Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease? Mistral -- A day without Avon and Vila is like a day without Vila and Avon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 19:25:07 -0600 From: Lisa Williams To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] "Aftermath" in frame library Message-Id: <199902280123.TAA12915@mail.dallas.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" "Aftermath" has been added to my B7 video frame capture library. The library is located at: . - Lisa _____________________________________________________________ Lisa Williams: lcw@dallas.net or lwilliams@rsc.raytheon.com Lisa's Video Frame Capture Library: http://lcw.simplenet.com/ New Riders of the Golden Age: http://www.warhorse.com/ -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V99 Issue #85 *************************************