From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V99 #88 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume99/88 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 88 Today's Topics: Re: [B7L] Myers Briggs Re: [B7L] Myers Briggs Re: [B7L] PD and Avon [B7L] Redemption con reports Re: [B7L] Career change? Re: [B7L] Career change? Re: [B7L] Zine help? was Re: Mary Sues Re: [B7L] Career change? Re: [B7L] Zine help? was Re: Mary Sues Re: [B7L] Virn and Hills Re: [B7L] Review: Solstice Re: [B7L] Allure Def? & bits (was Re:Allure, Power Games and Tar Re: [B7L] Career change? Re: [B7L] Allure Def? & bits (was Re:Allure, Power Games and Tar Re: [B7L] Allure Def? & bits (was Re:Allure, Power Games and Tar [B7L] Swansea + Paul Darrow Re: [B7L] Review: Solstice Re: [B7L] Redemption Con report Re: [B7L] Swansea + Paul Darrow Re: [B7L] More B7 game stats ( really long) Re: [B7L] More B7 game stats ( really long) [B7L] Dream writers/directors/guest stars for B7 Re: [B7L] Dream writers/directors/guest stars for B7 Re: [B7L] Myers Briggs Re: [B7L] More B7 game stats ( really long) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 08:57:37 GMT0BST From: "VJC" To: "Ma.James" CC: B7 list Subject: Re: [B7L] Myers Briggs Message-ID: <2E237BB57CB@OU20.nwservers.iso.port.ac.uk> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > Date: 27 Feb 1999 11:25:01 -0800 > From: "Ma.James" > To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > Subject: [B7L] Myers Briggs > Not that I have anything against Myers Briggs or Vick, I would simply rather > base my interpretations of the characters on what I see on the screen rather > than on a questionable personality test. So I'm deleting, deleting, deleting... Hello friends. I'm back. I suppose I'm the only person on this list who has to travel 15 miles over land and sea to answer their e-mail, so I like my e-mail to be worthwhile.... Let's get back to the Briggs! Vick Ha HA hahahahahahahahahahaha! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 09:00:48 GMT0BST From: "VJC" To: VulcanXYZ@aol.com CC: B7 list Subject: Re: [B7L] Myers Briggs Message-ID: <2E2467F6845@OU20.nwservers.iso.port.ac.uk> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > I actually like the Cally (INF) side of > me better and have worked at developing this for many years. > Conformist!!!! Vick. Back with a vengaence!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 09:06:29 GMT0BST From: "VJC" To: abasart@dnai.com CC: B7 list Subject: Re: [B7L] PD and Avon Message-ID: <2E25E8F2172@OU20.nwservers.iso.port.ac.uk> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > Reply-to: > From: "Ann Basart" > Someone on the list conjectured that Paul Darrow didn't really understand > Avon. Sounds like the beginning of a very interesting new thread. What was > Avon _really_ like? How _should_ PD have played him differently? Avon was an INTP. Paul started out good, but seeings as he isn't an INTP, he evolved into Han Solo / Jim Kirk. Have you read Paul's writings in the old Marvel Magazines? Proves my point doesn't it. Regards, Vick. INTP and iconoclast. > Ann > abasart@dnai.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 12:10:41 +0000 From: Steve Rogerson To: Lysator , Space City Subject: [B7L] Redemption con reports Message-ID: <36DBD53F.C38F639B@mcr1.poptel.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We are going to change the web page to a post con version and we would like some con reports on it. Can people who have, or are planning to, post reports let me know if they mind if these go up. -- cheers Steve Rogerson "Get in there you big furry oaf, I don't care what you smell" Star Wars ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:18:07 GMT0BST From: "VJC" To: B7 list Subject: Re: [B7L] Career change? Message-ID: <2E6907D71D0@OU20.nwservers.iso.port.ac.uk> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > Sure must! Remember your Clarke: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is > indistinguishable from magic." > My name's Clarke, so I'm hardly likely to forget. Vick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:20:00 GMT0BST From: "VJC" To: B7 list Subject: Re: [B7L] Career change? Message-ID: <2E698945C01@OU20.nwservers.iso.port.ac.uk> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > BTW, I think it must be a 'P' trait to hit 'reply all' and give the > person your addressing 2 copies of all your emails instead of taking a > few seconds to fix the address. Or is it just plain apathy? > Sorry, no wonder everyone found my Myers-Briggs thread so annoying. Vick. Apathy? I just couldn't give a damn! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:23:48 GMT0BST From: "VJC" To: B7 list Subject: Re: [B7L] Zine help? was Re: Mary Sues Message-ID: <2E6A8E54BB1@OU20.nwservers.iso.port.ac.uk> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > And where does Avon's brother fit in to all this? > Avon doesn't have a brother. The manifestation he saw was his own shadow. That's why it addressed him Avon and also why Avon looked so perturbed. Vick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:29:25 GMT0BST From: "VJC" To: B7 list Subject: Re: [B7L] Career change? Message-ID: <2E6C05810C1@OU20.nwservers.iso.port.ac.uk> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > > Unfortunately, us poor Yanks don't get to see Paul very often if at all. I > think he'd make a fabulous Technomage! Or maybe a Centauri...can you imagine > him and Londo at a Centauri banquet? > I think he'd be great as Zaphod Beeblebrox in a re-make of HHGTTG, along with Paul Merton as Arthur Dent, Richard Cadell as Ford Prefect and Kylie Minougue as Trillian. After seeing him in Guards! Guards! last month, I've come to appriciate his talent for comedy. Perfect. Vick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:33:31 GMT0BST From: "VJC" To: B7 list Subject: Re: [B7L] Zine help? was Re: Mary Sues Message-ID: <2E6D2055788@OU20.nwservers.iso.port.ac.uk> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > Also, for my tastes, I've read stories where I thought > Servalan, Cally, etc. were turned into Mary Sues.... Exactly my point, although that was a couple of weeks ago now. In my 25000 page unpublished (still waiting) novella Tomb of Ezron, Avon is ME! Vick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:36:09 GMT0BST From: "VJC" To: B7 list Subject: Re: [B7L] Virn and Hills Message-ID: <2E6DD3D0525@OU20.nwservers.iso.port.ac.uk> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT -- he must be of Irish descent. Vila With a name like Restal, he's more likely to be Jewish. Vick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:41:38 GMT0BST From: "VJC" To: B7 list Subject: Re: [B7L] Review: Solstice Message-ID: <2E6F4FA1174@OU20.nwservers.iso.port.ac.uk> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > Pennant Roberts had his own quarry story. They had to pull up plants (I > couldn't catch the name; maybe one of you British gardeners can tell me what > it is--it sounds like something I might want to plant) It's called Buddlia, and it's purple! I don't know if it grows where you live but I'd you not to try importing any, for fear of disrupting the eco-system. It grows like crazy! Vick > from one section of the > quarry during a shoot, because the plants were attracting butterflies, and > butterflies didn't seem to go with the alien planet look they were trying to > achieve. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:50:38 GMT0BST From: "VJC" To: Russ Massey CC: B7 list Subject: Re: [B7L] Allure Def? & bits (was Re:Allure, Power Games and Tar Message-ID: <2E71B21355F@OU20.nwservers.iso.port.ac.uk> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > Avon rarely failed to intimidate any women he got his lips onto. Avon acts like a person who's been hurt before and indeed this he is. He would never kiss a woman that he felt no spite against, that's why he didn't kiss Meegat. The last woman he kissed in love was Anna, and look what she did to him. Avon has become a product of his own cynicism. The post-modern quasi-reclusive techno wizard, thrown out of life and into uncertainty. His intelligence and his poetic sense of irony are all that remains of the original Kerr. Pity him. Vick On a philosophical tip! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 09:33:24 EST From: Pherber@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Career change? Message-ID: <9655b8fc.36dbf6b4@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/27/99 11:38:09 AM Mountain Standard Time, avona@jps.net writes: > I can picture it now. > A splendid ridge of hair, except for this gap in the center... a coat > cut in the approved Regency-style men's formal wear, made of pure black > leather. A silver lame sash runs crosswise, shoulder to knee, indicating > his high rank. And around all edges of the coat, a line of white piping > and a double row of silver studs. He surveys himself in a mirror with an > off-kilter smile. > "I thought my career was dead after I got stuck on a ship with that mad > rebel, Blaicoroggi. Fortunately, the new Emperor had no love of the old, > and I might be able to regain my ministry in the financial sector. > V'lan!" He snaps his fingers, and the Narn, a free soul who preffered > life in a civilization where there were things worth stealing, brushed > his own drab clothing (which held an assortment of useful, hidden > things) into place, and handed Avon Kerronoli his ornate sword cane. LOL! You just made me realize how much Vir reminds me of Vila. But I'm having a hard time picturing an obsequious Narn. Hmmmm..... Nina ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 14:03:38 +0000 From: Russ Massey To: VJC Cc: B7 list Subject: Re: [B7L] Allure Def? & bits (was Re:Allure, Power Games and Tar Message-ID: In message <2E71B21355F@OU20.nwservers.iso.port.ac.uk>, VJC writes > >> Avon rarely failed to intimidate any women he got his lips onto. > >Avon acts like a person who's been hurt before and indeed this he is. >He would never kiss a woman that he felt no spite against, that's >why he didn't kiss Meegat. The last woman he kissed in love was Anna, >and look what she did to him. It's a wonder the experience didn't drive him into the arms of a man :) -- Russ Massey Sirius Games, 161 Montague Street, Worthing, West Sussex BN11 3BZ (01903 217334) http://www.wriding.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:01:44 EST From: Mac4781@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Allure Def? & bits (was Re:Allure, Power Games and Tar Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Russ quoting Vick: > The last woman he kissed in love was Anna, > >and look what she did to him. > > It's a wonder the experience didn't drive him into the arms of a man :) LOL! I think Russ has been hanging out on SC for too long. He knows how we think. Vick, thanks for the Buddlia information. I shall pass that along to my husband--he's the family gardener--along with your wise advice about not importing alien plant life. I would enjoy some butterfly friendly flora about if he can come up with Buddlia or something similar. Carol Mc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 18:39:22 GMT0BST From: B WILLCOCK To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Swansea + Paul Darrow Message-ID: <7A3F9F6878@POLI2.SWAN.AC.UK> Guards Guards opened in Swansea last night to a very enthusiastic crowd who greatly enjoyed the play. Indeed the cast themselves seemed to be enjoying it as well. The entire cast also made themselves available for autographs in the bar and were very happy to answer questions, indeed I was surprised to be asked by Death whether anyone caught his thrown dafadil at the end! Paul was very kind and amenable to the waiting autograph hunters, myself included. In fact I was very pleased to be able to meet him again at Waterstones this morning where he spent about 20 minutes talking about people as diverse as Terry Scott, Roger Taylor (of Queen), Bob Hoskins and Geoffrey Archer! He denied his own autobiography would be interesting when I asked him if he would be prepared to write one!! I must confess getting so long with Paul must be every convention fans dream, he told me two things which I found especially interesting. First that his friend George Takei told him Leonard Nimoy watched B7 before making Star Trek 3!! and also that there is likely to be a third radio production at the end of the year, with even vague talk about a possible radio series. He also felt that the BBC simply refuses repeats because of the money they are currently making and would have to shell out if it was screened again. He also confessed that his book `The Eye' (which I really enjoyed and is amazingly out of print, we must get onto Boxtree about this!!) was actually written in just a month! I always look to books like this as a bonus to the B7 universe. It was also nice to meet up with people from the list for the first time (hello all!). For those about to see the play in the future -enjoy. All the best, Bryn. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 18:28:22 -0000 From: "Neil Faulkner" To: "lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] Review: Solstice Message-ID: <006801be64de$1eba5d80$3e16ac3e@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Carol wrote: >Pennant Roberts had his own quarry story. They had to pull up plants (I >couldn't catch the name; maybe one of you British gardeners can tell me what >it is--it sounds like something I might want to plant) from one section of the >quarry during a shoot, because the plants were attracting butterflies, and >butterflies didn't seem to go with the alien planet look they were trying to >achieve. As VJC pointed out, it is indeed Buddleia (sometimes spelt Buddleja), but also known just as 'butterfly bush'. B. davidii is a good one for attracting butterflies to the garden, since it flowers in late summer. Plenty of sunlight, not too much water, and make sure the soil is alkaline (it can grow in bare chalk). Note to butterfly fans - larval food plants are even more important than nectar sources for the adults. Just a pity the larvae prefer nettles, thistles, long grass etc - precisely the things most gardeners dedicate themselves to getting rid of. Neil ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 18:46:42 -0000 From: "Neil Faulkner" To: "lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] Redemption Con report Message-ID: <006901be64de$216161a0$3e16ac3e@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Iain wrote: >Sunday Afternoon: A couple of discussions. I organise a small workshop on >dodgy science in B7 which is good fun with thought-provoking contributions >from all who join in. I even make an apology to Neil, but that's a matter >for another post. Ah, but thanks to the wonders of the flipchart and the mighty marker pen, I now know about Roche lobes. Confusion is dispelled and apologies rendered superfluous. The Dodgy Science was a great session - all thanks to Iain for taking the trouble. I was also impressed by the panel with David Walsh, a man of tremendous courage, and Lillian Shepherd's talk on putting the science into media fiction without necessarily knowing anything remotely scientific. Everyone responsible for getting Redemption off the ground deserves congratulating. It was my fourth con and easily the best, not least because it was far and away the most efficiently managed I've experienced. Virtually every event I went to ran on schedule (unlike my train home). It was great to meet so many people, for the first time or otherwise, and the idea of a fan-oriented (as opposed to guest-oriented) con worked splendidly. Double thanks, of course, to all those who bought me a pint... Neil ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:40:49 EST From: Mac4781@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Swansea + Paul Darrow Message-ID: <175e1b8f.36dc4cd1@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Bryn passed along from Paul: > and also that there is likely to be a > third radio production at the end of the year, with even vague talk > about a possible radio series. That's great news. Thanks for sharing it. Neil wrote: > B. davidii is a good one for > attracting butterflies to the garden, since it flowers in late summer. > Plenty of sunlight, not too much water, and make sure the soil is alkaline > (it can grow in bare chalk). Thanks for the additional recommendation. I shall print all of this up and pass it along to the resident green thumb. Carol Mc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 21:03:27 +0000 From: Julia Jones To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] More B7 game stats ( really long) Message-ID: In message <36D4D0A1.15079A0A@ptinet.net>, mistral@ptinet.net writes >4) What Happens When You Give a Geek a Spaceship (my personal vote): In >my experience, inside every little geeky male computer nerd there is a >superhero [monster] screaming to be let out . I think there's a lot of truth in this one... >5) Male Mental-Pause (made up this morning, especially for you, after >40 hours without sleep, and it's just crazy and scientifically >plausible enough to be the 'truth'): Avon is roughly Blake's age, >possibly a little older, putting him early to mid-thirties when we meet >him. Even with my low opinion of the male animal, I'm not sure I'd go along with the idea that a man in his early thirties is likely to go into menopause. But then, Avon isn't in his early thirties. Considering the actors as well as the characters - Blake's age as stated in the series (32 in Weapon) is the same as Gareth Thomas's. Avon's age isn't stated, but Paul Darrow was 35 or 36 when filming started (I can't remember exactly when filming started, and I'm not going looking for my copy of the Boxtree book). Julia Jones "Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!" The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 16:25:44 -0800 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 list Subject: Re: [B7L] More B7 game stats ( really long) Message-ID: <36DC8188.7305A820@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Julia Jones wrote: > Even with my low opinion of the male animal, I'm not sure I'd go along > with the idea that a man in his early thirties is likely to go into > menopause. Yes, I can see how that idea seems a bit iffy; I'd always thought that midlife crises started closer to about age forty, until I read a book on the midlife change and how it is portrayed in folktales, and was surprised to discover that it generally does start in the early-to-mid thirties -- something I've seen played out in the lives of people around me, now that I'm aware of it. I have a dear friend who's 35, and she's well and truly sunk into the middle of her own existential midlife crisis -- I've also seen several men start to develop a roving eye and/or leave their families at about this age. As for how this applies to Avon, well, that was mostly a joke, although I do think a plausible one; (pause to go check Weapon); the clone gives his (Blake's) age as 34, actually, which would make Blake 32-33 when we meet him; I've no idea how that relates to Avon's age, never having seen any pre-production background material for the show. I've just always assumed Avon's age to be in a range somewhere between Blake's stated age and Paul Darrow's actual age. (I don't think it's plausible that he's younger than Blake; it seems to me the interpersonal dynamic suggests that another thing bugging Avon might be having to defer to a younger man.) If you assume some individual variation from society to society and person to person, I'd guess anything from early thirties to early forties could be considered reasonable for the onset of the midlife crisis; and Avon does seem to display some signs of that typical existential angst (want to believe in something/nothing worth believing in - which seems to me a big part of his conflict with Blake); so I'd maintain that a competent writer could do something with it; but really, I'd just intended it as a rather sideways, mildly humorous possibility :) And, BTW, I'd love to hear anybody else's ideas about what might be a logical/silly explanation for the change in Avon from series A to series D. Or how many angels can dance on the head of a pin :) Cheers, Mistral -- "And for my next trick, I shall swallow my other foot."--Vila ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 03:41:19 -0000 From: "Jonathan" To: "Blake's 7 List" Subject: [B7L] Dream writers/directors/guest stars for B7 Message-ID: <000601be65f0$deb346c0$b324883e@ming> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Proposed pointless exercise : If you imagine you had a US primetime sixth season of Blake's Seven - there's a big budget and the CGI team has already been headhunted from B5/DS9 - who would you pick to write / direct / guest star ? Personally I'd like to have an AE van Vogt script to start the season. This is *my* fantasy, so I'd have the production company time machine pull him out from the '40's when his work was at a peak. I've always seen B7 as very Vogt-ish - the power-mad characters, super-technology and crazed plotting of the writers and the charcters) are common to both. CJ Cheryth would be an especially obvious choice if I wanted another SF novelist - I'ved said before how much her heroine in Cyteen reminds me of Avon and she's used to long-running space opera plots. Still from SF, Vernor Vinge is good at computers and spacewar, so he makes a great choice for the sixth season's version of the computer-trying-to-take-over-the-galaxy story. And (really pushing it here) I think I'd like a Patrick O'Brian script for a character-oriented story (set, if he really insists, on a planet where the locals speak in C19th English.) And I'll have a Le Carre script for a spy story - either Anna's clone or her brother is looking for Avon ? I haven't really made my mind up about actors, except that I'd like a cameo for Kenneth Williams and a role for Brian Blessed as a barbarian ruler because earlier seasons had parts that must have been written for his stock barbarian king act but he never appeared - probably because the budget wouldn't stretch that far. ) Directors - I think this is the controversial one. I'm probably in a minority here, but I think that killing the Scorpio's crew (and especially Avon killing Blake) was a terrific move. Very Verdi - really space *opera*. So to restore dramatic unity and tension, the resurrected crew has to be killed off even more dramatically - and most of all painfully - at the end of season six. I see a plot along the lines of Avon and Servalan finally getting together. They retire to a mansion in the Magnellic clouds, safely out of reach of war crimes commissions, old enemies, vengeful Auronites, and rebels peeved at Avon blowing away their hero. Cut to shots of the the sociopathic two running giddily through meadows, playing with kittens/Mutoids/Andromedans, choosing china patterns, flying kites. Villa warns Avon it's a trap, but Avon won't listen. Dayna and Tarrant object much more strenuously. They decide to kill Servalan. There's a big gun fight where Avon and Soolin wipe them out, but through some freak Soolin, the cast's deadliest gunfighter, is slain. Servalan hears the news that one of them is dead but thinks it's Avon. She mourns, and attempts to commit suicide after singing an aria. Villa finally believes that her love for Avon is sincere and restrains and comforts her. Then Avon arrives back. He see's Villa holding her in his arms and concludes that they've got a serious social snuggling relationship going on behind his back. He's Avon, so he kills them both. Orac then tells him the truth. He's still Avon, so he sets fire to the set and strides into the flames holding Orac... I have a *strong* gut feeling that Tarrantino is the man we need for this, although Villa especially may disagree. (The probably crazed) Jonathan Coupe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 22:03:33 -0600 From: Lisa Williams To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Dream writers/directors/guest stars for B7 Message-Id: <199903030408.WAA19900@mail.dallas.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Jonathan wrote: >I have a *strong* gut feeling that Tarrantino is the man we need for this, I'd recommend Giacomo Puccini, personally. - Lisa _____________________________________________________________ Lisa Williams: lcw@dallas.net or lwilliams@rsc.raytheon.com Lisa's Video Frame Capture Library: http://lcw.simplenet.com/ New Riders of the Golden Age: http://www.warhorse.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 21:11:01 -0700 (MST) From: Betty Ragan To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Myers Briggs Message-Id: <199903030411.VAA04854@gardenia.aoc.nrao.edu> Somebody asked me about the other personality test I mentioned and whether it was on-line, but apparently there was a problem with my e-mail address and the bot blocked my post. Anyway, Calle very kindly forwarded it back to me, so FWIW here was my response to whoever-it-was: > I haven't seen one, despite having spent some time recently looking. > If anybody else knows of one, I'd love to hear about it. (The name of > the test is the Berkeley Personality Profile.) *Sigh*. I seem to have nothing but problems posting here. I think maybe something is telling me to go back into lurk-mode... --------------------------------------------------------------------- Betty Ragan (bragan@nrao.edu) Home page: http://www.nrao.edu/~bragan "Employers should be sure that night workers have plenty of caffienated beverages available..." -- an American Sleep Disorders Association pamphlet on shift work ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 01:21:34 PST From: "Rob Clother" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] More B7 game stats ( really long) Message-ID: <19990303092135.7523.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-type: text/plain >Even with my low opinion of the male animal, etc. etc. I take offence at that throwaway remark. I happen to be one of the species, and my upbringing has taught me, where possible, to treat women with politeness and respect. I have an implicit understanding that broad, sweeping attacks on the female gender are unacceptable. Personally, I expect the same respect to be extended to my own gender. Everyone is entitled to hold their own opinion: however, this list amounts to a public forum. Please keep your sexist opinions private: they are no more acceptable coming from members of one sex than the other. -- Rob ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V99 Issue #88 *************************************