The Charlatans Digest Sun Dec 03, 1995 Volume 1 : Issue 03 There are 75 messages totalling 1675 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. easy life.... (3) 2. touring 3. Hot Licks + Etc. (2) 4. youngest fan (2) 5. top 10 bands (32) 6. bands and albums 7. Stone Roses Bootleg CD (2) 8. top 10 list 9. Top 10 Worst Bands (9) 10. top ten likes/dislikes 11. Worst band in the world (4) 12. Next album!! 13. EARTHLING 14. 10 15. why top 10s... (3) 16. top 10 17. let it die... (3) 18. up to our hips (2) 19. Worst bands (2) 20. as per requested: Charlies' Top Tenner 21. Q article 22. Charlatans mailinglist Archive --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 19:08:45 -0500 From: lwminton@COLBY.EDU (Lee W. Minton) Subject: Re: easy life.... I did get that nifty little box and the postcards, but Tim's was missing. Oh well. ---------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 19:03:09 MST From: MERRILEE WOLSEY Subject: Re: easy life.... tim didn't come with that set only 3 of the 7 did if you have something you wanna trade i'll trade you my post cards of tim and rob ---------------------- From: "Greg Ipp" Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 19:02:05 +0000 Subject: Re: easy life.... > tim didn't come with that set only 3 of the 7 did if you have something you > wanna trade i'll trade you my post cards of tim and rob wow, you're actually willing to trade tim?? :) to the rest of the list: anyone have a copy of Me In Time you'd be willing trade/part with for cash? ---------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:29:19 +0100 From: Eirik Gudmundsen Subject: Re: Re[2]: touring > I read in an interview in MM that when they finished Up to Our Hips they didn't > feel the album had been up to their best and started recording Charlatans > almost straight away. When they finished that Tim felt they had exhausted all > their best ideas and were therefore very happy with the album. I therefore > can't really see them releasing any new albums for the next 12 months, > especially as no recording will be taking place whilst they are still touring. I read that interview myself. But that was just around it's release, and it's normal they feal they have given all their best, and that they don't have anything more to give. But now they've been on tour again, and have propably got some new inspiritation. I have read in an interview after the one in MM, and there Tim actually said he wanted to make the albums fast. It really sounded like he wanted to make a new album pretty quickly in that interview. I hope and believe they won't wait too long before they release some new stuff. But then again, you never know with the Charlatans. I know the next thing they'll do will be great, though. Anyway, I've heard rumours that they were going to appear along with Stone Roses and Black Grape at Spike Island (I'm suddenly not quite sure that was the righ name, but anyway..) in May 1996, so that's at least one concert. I am also lookimg forward to when the tribute album for The (Small) Faces are being released in 1996. The Charlatans are contributing with a song there along with Ride, Primal Scream and a bunch of others. cheers, ------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:41:26 -0500 From: Balluff@aol.com Subject: Hot Licks + Etc. Hello all, For those interested, The Beat! Records in Sacramento, CA has several copies of the Charlatans Hot Licks bootleg CD for sale. The disc was recorded in Italy in 1992, and has very good audio. You can mail order, and the phone number is 916-446-4402. I'm also selling a live Stone Roses bootleg CD called "Stoned Kids". It was recorded on 5/21/95 at the Avalon Club in Boston. I'd like $25 which includes postage. Email if interested. Kevin --------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:10:37 -0500 From: "James D. Lowe" Subject: Re: Hot Licks + Etc. > For those interested, The Beat! Records in Sacramento, CA has several copies > of the Charlatans Hot Licks bootleg CD for sale. The disc was recorded in > Italy in 1992, and has very good audio. You can mail order, and the I can't reccomend this CD enough! The sound quality is amazing...far better than most boots you find and it really demonstrates how good the charlies are in person. Tim's mumbling is hilarious...especially when he promises that "this is the last time you'll ever here this song" (The Only One I Know). More than anything, its worth it for the killer version of "Happen To Die". Its about 10 minutes long...dead dead good! "Can't Even Be Bothered" also stands out as a song much better live than on the studio recording. My only complaint about this CD is that it doesn't have "Sproston Green" on it, but at least its on the "Isolation" CD. jim ---------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:56:08 -0800 From: klyakov@ucsd.edu (Lyakov) (Krassi Lyakov) Subject: youngest fan Just a funny note for everyone... My little cousin, who's only four years old, likes the Charlatans and the Stone Roses more than anything else!!! Seriously! I take him to kindergarten every morning, and he always asks me to play *the Organ Song*(The Only One I Know) by *sharlans*, or *the Jungle Song* (Breaking into Heaven by the Stone Roses). His other faves are *the Drums Song* (Fools Gold), *the Guitar Song*(Wonderwall) by *Ueyses* , *the Ghost Song* (Echoes by Pink Floyd), *I bin uatchin' you* by *the Policemen*, and *the Funny Song*(Intermission by Blur - is that what it's called? I'm not sure, but it's the 9th song on Rubbish...And he REALLY likes all of the songs mentioned! He likes them more than the soundtracks to Lion King, Aladdin, etc. He even has the same haircut as John Squire and Tim Burgess but he's blond. He cracks me up! "I can't even be bothered, energy breaks me down..." Krassi ----------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:02:03 -0800 From: klyakov@ucsd.edu (Lyakov) (Krassi Lyakov) Subject: top 10 bands Hi everyone! Since the list has been a bit slow, maybe we could do some kind of a music taste survey...Let's list our top 10 favorite bands/musicians/artists/songwriters (Charlatans not counting of course), and our top 15 favorite albums (no Charlies stuff here either). I've always found it helpful to get exposed to new music (meaning music I haven't heard before) by recommendations from other people who's passion also is music. I'll start first: top 10 bands 0.Beatles 1.Stone Roses 2.Pink Floyd 3.Slowdive 4.The Cure 5.Orbital 6.Oasis 7.New Order 8.Depeche Mode 9.The The top 10 albums 0. Orbital - brown album (Orbital 2?) 1. Stone Rose - Stone Roses 2. Chemical Brothers - Exit Planet Dust 3. Pink Floyd - Meddle 4. The Cure - Disintegration 5. The Pixies - Bossanova 6. The Smiths - Strange Ways Here We Come 7. Vivaldi - Four Seasons 8. Stone Roses - Second Coming 9. Slowdive - Just For A Day 10. Pink Floyd - Dark Side Of The Moon 11. Oasis - Definitely Maybe 12. Moodswing - Moodfood 13. Beatles - Abbey Road 14. The The - Mind Bomb Lastly, maybe we could name one CD that we couldn't imagine living without. Imagine if you were to live on an island for say a year, and you could take only one CD with you - the one that you feel you won't get sick of listening to for so long... I know that it's a tough choice, but let's try! top 1 album 1. Pink Floyd - Dark Side Of The Moon "I can't even be bothered, energy breaks me down..." Krassi ---------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 14:02:05 +0000 From: "Greg Ipp" Subject: Re: top 10 bands ok ... my top ten bands: 1. the verve 2. the stone roses 3. ride 4. spiritualized 5. slowdive 6. swervedriver 7. sianspheric4 8. blur 9. oasis 10. happy mondays top 10 albums: 1. the stone roses - the stone roses 2. the verve - a storm in heaven 3. ride - nowhere 4. slowdive - souvlaki 5. spiritualized - pure phase 6. blur - leisure 7. the verve - a northern soul 8. swervedriver - ejectorseat reservation 9. sianspheric4 - somnium 10. ride - going blank again album i couldn't live without: the stone roses - the stone roses -------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 14:46:24 -0800 (PST) From: Justin Beck Subject: Re: youngest fan Sounds like a cool kid! Bet he doesn't like Barney either. Justin ------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 16:10:40 -0500 From: hultiin0@seraph1.sewanee.edu (Niklas Hultin) Subject: Re: top 10 bands Top 10 bands in no particular order: Blur, Inspiral Carpets, the Rosemarys, Ride, Suede, Band of Susans, Echobelly, Saint Etienne, Verve, Oasis, Slowdive (hmm...thats 11...oh well). Top 10 cds in no particular order: Ride - Nowhere, Ride - Smile, Saint Etienne - Foxbase Alpha, Verve - A Northern Soul, Inspiral Carpets - Revenge of the Goldfish, Slowdive - Souvlaki, Suede - Dog Man Star, Oasis - WTSMG, The Rosemarys - the Rosemarys (current faves...list will be completely different in a week). Either Suede - DMS, Ride - Nowhere or Slowdive - Souvlaki. Cant make up my mind. Nik Hultin ---------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:15:27 -0600 (CST) From: cooper andrew j Subject: Re: top 10 bands in no particular order, off the top of my head... dinosaur jr kate bush boiled in lead the cure drovers soundgarden possum dixon erasure jimi hendrix afghan whigs ten albums kate bush - hounds of love the cure - seventeen seconds soundgarden - superunknown babes in toyland - fontanelle dinosaur jr - where you been mazzy star - so tonight that i might see belly - king nine inch nails - pretty hate machine erasure - the innocents catherine wheel - chrome > album i couldn't live without: -------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 18:22:21 -0500 From: lwminton@COLBY.EDU (Lee W. Minton) Subject: Re: Hot Licks + Etc. Can you list the songs on both the Charlies live disc and the Stone Roses live disc. I'm interested but I would like to know the songs before buying. Thanks -LM --------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 18:30:12 -0500 From: lwminton@COLBY.EDU (Lee W. Minton) Subject: Re: top 10 bands Top Ten in No Order. Oasis Catherine Wheel Depeche Mode Stone Roses Blur Ocean Blue 311 Smiths/Morrissey Sundays Frank Black ------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 18:49:26 -0500 From: Balluff@aol.com Subject: Re: top 10 bands Here's my list...... Favorite Artists: Paul Weller / Style Council Oasis Beautiful South / Housemartins The The Galliano Primal Scream Black Grape / Happy Mondays Led Zeppelin Stone Roses Blur Favorite Albums: Paul Weller - Wildwood Paul Weller - Live Wood Paul Weller - Stanley Road Style Council - Live, Home & Abroad Beautiful South - Miaow Housemartins - London 0 Hull 4 The The - Dusk Oasis - Definitely Maybe Galliano - What Color Our Flag? Primal Scream - Give Out But Don't Give Up Led Zeppelin - Box Set Mother Earth James Taylor Quartet Kevin --------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 18:49:55 EST From: "Aliena" Subject: top 10 bands ok ... my top ten bands: 1. The Verve 2. The Beatles 3. The Stone Roses 4. Oasis 5. The Chemical Bros. 6. St.Etienne 7. Portishead 8. Ride 9. REM 10. Soul Coughing top 10 albums: 1. The Verve - A Storm in Heaven 2. Jefferson Airplane - The Worst of Jefferson Airplane 3. The Boo Radleys - Learning to Walk 4. The Stone Roses - Second Coming 5. The Verve - A Northern Soul 6. St.Etienne - So Tough 7. Captain Beefheart - Strictly Personal 8. Pink Floyd - The Wall 9. James Taylor - Mud Slide Slim 10. Ride - Canival of Light Album I couldn't live without: Des O'Connor's Magic Christmas (Disco beat mix) oh......ermmm I mean: The Verve - ASIH ;-D Cheers, Robyn :) ---------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 20:01:14 -0500 (EST) From: Rehak Subject: Re: top 10 bands Funny, but so far I seem to be alone in my musical tastes. I like a lot of the bands that've been listed, like Inspiral Carpets, Stone Roses, 311, the Verve, but none of 'em would make my top 10 list. Here, I'll show you: The Pogues Billy Bragg They Might Be Giants Ramones Dead Can Dance Velvet Underground Jane's Addiction Misfits Velocity Girl Pink Floyd That's in no particular order. Top 10 albums is hard to narrow down, but here goes: Rum, Sodomy & The Lash---Pogues Dark Side of the Moon----Pink Floyd Flood---They Might Be Giants News Of the World---Queen The new Smashing Pumpkins(cant find it & dont remember the name) Ziggy Stardust----Bauhaus Ramones Mania---Ramones Collected Robert Johnson vol.1 Saltarello---Dead Can Dance Best of Jimi Hendrix(or something) Just my 2 cents(or pence, or whatever). ------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 19:10:40 -0600 (CST) From: John H Bergstrom Subject: bands and albums bands: depeche mode psychedelic furs pink floyd beatles the the smiths everything but the girl church smashing pumpkins pet shop boys albums: black celebration- depeche mode wish you were here- pink floyd the hurting- tears for fears stone roses- stone roses talk talk talk- psychedelic furs viva hate- morrissey louder than bombs- the smiths sgt. pepper's- the beatles pills 'n' thrills- happy mondays paris- the cure island: black celebration- depeche mode. jb ------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 21:02:55 -0500 From: jrobin@tiac.net (Sproston Green) Subject: Re: top 10 bands I'll have a go... >top 10 bands or so in no peticula ordr Stone Roses Cure Orbital New Order / Joy Division / Electronic Ride Black Grape / Happy Mondays The The Inspiral Carpets Chameleons ..and some angry stuff for high speed drivin' - .....nin, skinny puppy, ministry, frontline assembly.. >top 10 albums ride - nowhere orbital - brown album joy division - closer inspiral carpets - life cure - disintegration black grape - it's great when you're f*cking straight, yeah stone roses - stone roses the the - soul mining new order - low-life >top 1 album cure - pornography ----------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 22:19:47 -0500 (EST) From: Kevin Green Subject: Re: top 10 bands mine would have to be the stone roses laterz ----------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 00:27:53 -0500 From: lwminton@COLBY.EDU (Lee W. Minton) Subject: Re: top 10 bands You are a chump, Kevin Green ------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 95 11:32:36 GMT From: ceemg@cee.hw.ac.uk (Mark Gordon) Subject: Re: top 10 bands 1.Stone Roses 2.Stone Roses 3.Stone Roses 4.Stone Roses 5.Stone Roses 6.Stone Roses 7.Stone Roses 8.Stone Roses 9.Stone Roses 10.Stone Roses ----------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:24:12 +0100 From: Eirik Gudmundsen Subject: Re: top 10 bands It seems like I listen to music that all of you listen to. But I was most suprised by Niklas Hultin mentioning The Rosemarys. I've actually got that CD only by chance, and I haven't heard nothing whatsoever about them. They sound like a band a little too late for the Manchester scene, but it's OK! Anyway, here's my list, at least for today, in no order: Ride The Verve The The Jellyfish Stone Roses Oasis Blur Lush The Boo Radleys The Real People That's not enough of my favourite bands that I could've put in here, but those were the first in my head. Top 15 albums in no order: The Real People - The Real People Ride - Going Blank Again The The - Dusk Jellyfish - Bellybuttom Airhead - Boing! The Prodigy - Experience Verve - A Storm In Heaven Lush - Spooky The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses Howard Jones - Humans Lib Suede - Dog Man Star Dodgy - Homegrown The Lightning Seeds - Jollyfication The Beautiful South - Welcome To The Beautiful South Curve - Doppelganger This is hard, because I love everything! Howard Jones sits deep in me, from my childhood. It was my first big musical experience when I was 8 years, and it was strong. The one album I would need on an island except from the Charlatans' is: The Real People - The Real People That album is a classic, and for me it's timeless. It's sad they've been forgotten! --------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:19:45 GMT From: campbell colin Subject: Re: top 10 bands its not where your from mate its where your at ------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:19:07 GMT From: campbell colin Subject: Re: top 10 bands im no kevin green but the second coming is one hell of a good album theres no pleasing some people it totally kicks the shit out of anything fuckin oasis and co. have released ever ok? --------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 09:55:04 -0500 From: hultiin0@seraph1.sewanee.edu (Niklas Hultin) Subject: Re: top 10 bands >It seems like I listen to music that all of you listen to. But I was most >suprised by Niklas Hultin mentioning The Rosemarys. I've actually got that CD >only by chance, and I haven't heard nothing whatsoever about them. They sound >like a band a little too late for the Manchester scene, but it's OK! >Anyway, here's my list, at least for today, in no order: [...] I think they (the Rosemarys) try really hard to sound like Ride or Lush, with some success.They have two albums out on Fox Records (California based - they are from San Fran). I'm surprised they have been released in Europe. Nik Hultin ---------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 08:11:46 -0800 (PST) From: Justin Beck Subject: Re: top 10 bands I've seen people mention St. Etienne and Spiritualized. Somehow I've managed to miss hearing their music. Anyone care to give me some sort of description or comparisons with other bands or sounds? Stereolab as well! thanks! Justin ----------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 10:34:44 -0500 From: hultiin0@seraph1.sewanee.edu (Niklas Hultin) Subject: Re: top 10 bands >I've seen people mention St. Etienne and Spiritualized. Somehow I've >managed to miss hearing their music. Anyone care to give me some sort of >description or comparisons with other bands or sounds? Stereolab as well! Cant help you with Spiritualized but as for Saint Etinne... well, they are very much club oriented but not techno or the "eurobeat" stuff MTV plays. Every once in a while they remind me of a less noir Portishead, though such a comparison is far from correct. Actually, their material ranges from the very dancy Pale Movie (of Tiger Bay, they latest) to more dub-oriented material like "She's the One" from their debut Foxbase Alpha to retro-ish ballads like "Hobart Paving" from So Tough. I haven't heard much of Tiger Bay but I think it's a little bit more dance-oriented than their previous two albums. Of So Tough and Foxbase Alpha, I recommend the latter more (if for no other reason, it has a really cool cover of Neil Young's "Only Love Can Break Your Heart"). Hope this helps some, maybe someone else can pick up where I left... Nik Hultin P.S. I noticed that many people mentioned the Inspirals as one of their faves. I'm currently working on an WWW page dedicated to them. For more info, or if you can help me with material, e-mail me at: hultiin0@seraph1.sewanee.edu ---------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:22:03 GMT From: "Dave Lewis" Subject: Re: top 10 bands seeing as St Etienne now seem to be the major topic of conversation I can reccomend Dubstar to any fans. They sound pretty similar and the album 'Disgraceful' is excellent. Theyre touring the UK at the moment and are brilliant live. As for top ten artists/bands (no particular order) - Stone Roses Oasis Gorky's Zycotic Mynci Beatles Crowded House Cast Jeff Buckley Ash Teenage Fanclub Tokyo Sexwail (my mates their guitarist and he'd be offended if I didnt include them. If anyone has ever seen them live (they play around Norwich) then please e-mail me!) sorry but I cant be bothered to think of my top ten albums. Dave ------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:52:37 -0500 From: Balluff@aol.com Subject: FS: Stone Roses Bootleg CD As I mentioned a few days ago, I have a live Stone Roses CD for sale. It is called "Stoned Kids" and was recorded at the Avalon Club in Boston on 5/21/95. It seems to be an audience recording, and the audio quality is fair to good. I'd like to get $25 (which includes postage) for it. The track listing is: 1. i wanna be adored 2. waterfall 3. ten storey love song 4. daybreak 5. your star still shines 6. tightrope 7. elizabeth/ressurection 8. good times 9. love spreads 10. made of stone 11. driving south total time: 62:14 --------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 16:32:37 -0500 From: lwminton@COLBY.EDU (Lee W. Minton) Subject: Re: FS: Stone Roses Bootleg CD How about the track listing for the live Charlies CD? ----------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:21:39 +0000 From: "Greg Ipp" Subject: Re: top 10 bands > From: "Aliena" > > ,---> so i got in the car, we drove for a mile, i didnt even know her name > | she said, "you got the money and i've got the time." ... > `-. five years later on, she became my lover, taught me everything i know. > | she said, "you were born to fly my son," > `---> i said, "hey, i already know." > because it's all inside > because it's all inside > I was born to fly, fly pretty high > Because it's all in the mind...... hey ... im impressed :) -------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Nov 95 11:08 PST From: backbeat@IslandNet.com (backbeat@islandnet.com) Subject: Re: top 10 bands My top 10 fave bands: 1 - The Beatles 2 - The Rolling Stones (esp. when Keith holds the reins) 3 - The Who 4 - The Stone Roses 5 - Blur 6 - Nirvana 7 - Texas 8 - The Grapes Of Wrath 9 - The Black Crowes 10 - Dramarama My top 10 fave albums: 1 - Revolver (The Beatles) 2 - Live At Leeds -- the reissued release (The Who) 3 - Exile On Main Street (The Rolling Stones) 4 - Bleach (Nirvana) 5 - The Stone oses (The Stone Roses) 6 - Plastic Ono Band (John Lennon) 7 - Layla (Derek and the Dominos) 8 - The Beatles (The Beatles) 9 - Parklife (Blur) 10 - Automatic For The People (REM) Album for the deserted island: The Beatles (The Beatles) ---> Just because there are so many different types of songs, and therefore tough to get bored of. A masterpeice! Dougie ------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:57:28 -0500 From: lwminton@COLBY.EDU (Lee W. Minton) Subject: Re: top 10 bands Am I the only current Brit Pop fan who doesn't like the Beatles at all? -LM ------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:02:08 -0700 (MST) From: Mique Reisch Subject: Re: top 10 bands On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, Lee W. Minton wrote: > Am I the only current Brit Pop fan who doesn't like the Beatles at all? nope, I despise them ----------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 12:12:19 +0000 (GMT) From: RM Hewes Subject: top 10 bands Why has no one got PULP in their list of favourite bands? PULP Rule ----------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 19:17:27 -0500 From: lwminton@COLBY.EDU (Lee W. Minton) Subject: Re: top 10 bands >On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, Lee W. Minton wrote: > >> Am I the only current Brit Pop fan who doesn't like the Beatles at all? >> > nope, I despise them Alright, I found at least one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! --------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 20:40:01 -0500 From: DavidG6523@aol.com Subject: top 10 list Greetings, This was extremenly difficult!!! bands 10. Therapy? 9. Jane's Addiction 8. The Cure 7. The Smiths 6. The God Machine 5. Blur 4. Smashing Pumpkins 3. Nine Inch Nails 2. The Stone Roses 1. Catherine Wheel -- this band rules!!! recordings -- no particular order Verve - the new one Blur - Mordern Life... The Smiths - Hatful Of Hollow The Cure - Faith The Stone Roses - Second Coming Therapy? - Nurse Smashing Pumpkins - Gish Catherine Wheel - everything they ever recorded The God Machine - Scenes From The Second Storey Swervedriver - Mescal Head Suede Rage Against The Machine Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine Lush - Spooky desert island (this is imposible!!!) Ride - nowhere As you can see from the above, I have a somewhat schizophrenic taste in music. Am I the oldest one on this list at 35? The new Chemical Brothers CD is really growing on me. Can anyone suggest some similar artists to try out? Cordially, Dave (please don't call them the Charlies) Gardin -- DaividG6523@aol.com ---------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 21:18:09 -0500 From: jrobin@tiac.net (Sproston Green) Subject: Re: top 10 bands >>On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, Lee W. Minton wrote: >> >>> Am I the only current Brit Pop fan who doesn't like the Beatles at all? >>> >> nope, I despise them > >Alright, I found at least one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! make that two. i never really cared for their music. i can't refute the great influence its had on the music we listen to but the songs just tend to get old real fast. i guess you had to be there (i wasn't). ------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 21:49:41 PST From: Ellen Kim Subject: Top 10 Worst Bands Here's a twist on things `cause all our top tenners are about the same things: 1. NKOTB 2. Celine Dion/Atlanis M etc (all these Cdn crap female singers) 3. Hooty and the Blowfish 4. Pearl Jam 5. --------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Nov 95 19:33 PST From: backbeat@IslandNet.com (backbeat@islandnet.com) Subject: Re: Top 10 Worst Bands > Here's a twist on things `cause all our top tenners are about the same > things: > > 1. NKOTB > 2. Celine Dion/Atlanis M etc (all these Cdn crap female singers) As long as Sarah McLachlan isn't includd in this category. > 3. Hooty and the Blowfish Call me odd, but I like Hootie. > 4. Pearl Jam I'm gonna ignore this. > 5. 5. Take That 6. Phil Collins 7. Tears For Fears (well, I like Songs From The Big Chair) 8. Poison (and any other supposed hard rock band like Bon Jovi) 9. TLC (and other lame ass dance bands) 10. The supposed "soul" music we hear today that would have Otis Redding rolling in his grave ------------------------- Date: Fri, 01 Dec 1995 00:16:12 -0500 From: st930454@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU (Briana Campbell) Subject: top ten likes/dislikes First of all . . . hate the Beatles? I know Michael Stipe said he thought they were elevator music, but come on! My top bands, in no particular order at all: The Jam, Pulp, Beautiful South, Echobelly, REM, Blur, The Verve, Suede . . . I am kind of partial (perhaps due to geography) to the following bands: Tracy Bonham, Jennifer Trynin . . . The Boston scene as it happens today and as it evolves from day to day. Albums that completely rock: Um, anything and everythign by the Jam: Live Jam, Wasteland, Extras . . . everything. The Beautiful South-Miaow, Welcome to the Beutiful South Echobelly-EGO, On Supergrass-I Should Coco Blur-Modern Life Is Rubbish Pulp-It, His N' Hers (the new one's not out in the States yet :( ) Radiohead-The Bends The Verve-A Northern Soul REM-Chronic Town and everything UNTIL (and not including) Out of Time and a few songs from Monster (particularily Crush With Eyeliner) Album I could not live without: Echobelly-Everyone's Got One (I am a painter and that album really helped me through an extremely difficult time in my life and work) or maybe, hm, something by the Jam, but I can't bring myself to pick . . . Bands that completely suck: I agree with whoever started the list and I disagree with whoever it was that like Pearl Jam. And, puh-lease! Hootie and the Blowfish? I suppose you dig Dave matthews and Phish as well. Those are the big pot-smoking frat boy bands where I'm at. Now I have a question which I'd like to pose: My friend and I will be in London for two weeks in Late December/early January. What should we definitely do/see? What should we bypass? AND, anyone know of any good shows at that time? Thanks in advance! Briana Campbell ---------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 01:18:01 -0500 From: lwminton@COLBY.EDU (Lee W. Minton) Subject: Re: Top 10 Worst Bands >Here's a twist on things `cause all our top tenners are about the same >things: > >1. NKOTB >2. Celine Dion/Atlanis M etc (all these Cdn crap female singers) >3. Hooty and the Blowfish >4. Pearl Jam >5. I'm very dissappointed. NKOTB???????????? ANd you're a CHarlatans Fan????? ---------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 01:22:03 -0500 From: lwminton@COLBY.EDU (Lee W. Minton) Subject: Worst band in the world Hey I got the two worst bands ever. Even worse than the Beatles. 1) Grateful Dead 2) Phish Enough said. -LM ------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 01:19:14 -0500 From: lwminton@COLBY.EDU (Lee W. Minton) Subject: Re: Top 10 Worst Bands >Here's a twist on things `cause all our top tenners are about the same >things: > >1. NKOTB >2. Celine Dion/Atlanis M etc (all these Cdn crap female singers) >3. Hooty and the Blowfish >4. Pearl Jam >5. I'm sorry.After I sent that last message, I realized that these are top 10 worst bands. Right on!!!!!!!!! Again,my apologies. --------------------- Date: Fri, 01 Dec 1995 12:04:04 +0100 From: Eirik Gudmundsen Subject: Re: Top 10 Worst Bands Top 10 Worst bands: 1. Kenny G 2. Mariah Carey 3. Guns'n'Roses - All Heavy Metal bands (they are not "heavy" at all!) 4. Dr. Albarn 5. Bonnie Riatt 6. East 17 7. Celine Dion - absolutely 8. Queen - especially the releases after Freddi's death 9. Soul Asylum 10. Green "fucking" Day ------------------------- Date: Fri, 01 Dec 1995 10:24:34 +0000 From: Tim B Subject: Next album!! I knew that if I put 'top 10 albums' as the title no one would bother reading it, so I used a little bit of artistic licence. Top Bands (No Order): :Oasis :Stone Roses :Bluetones :Black Grape :Nirvana :Beatles :Bluetones (Too good to be put in just once) :Chemical Bros :Supergrass :The Kinks The albums would follow pretty much the same pattern --------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 06:35:53 -0500 (EST) From: Tai Subject: Re: top 10 bands hey everyone! i'm new on the list, just like to say that the beatles suck, suck, suck that's all but the Charlatans RULE!!@! bye! tai ------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 11:44:18 GMT From: "Dave Lewis" Subject: Re: top 10 bands > Am I the only current Brit Pop fan who doesn't like the Beatles at all? YES ------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 12:01:34 +0100 From: gill Subject: RE: top 10 bands In message Thu, 30 Nov 1995 12:12:19 +0000 (GMT), RM Hewes writes: > Why has no one got PULP in their list of favourite bands? > PULP Rule damn right ----------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 14:01:53 +0000 From: 9416641@edufee.fee.uva.nl Subject: EARTHLING hi everybody, I'm new to the list', or actually i've been on it for a week now . I don't understand why everybody sends in his top ten list. it includes so many of the same bands that I wonder why not everybody just only mentions the ones that are a bit more odd. Well maybe no one agrees but that is the way I see it. AND........ Why isn't EARTHLING nowhere on the lists??? I saw them 2 days ago here in Amsterdam and they definetely ruled. Bye, lisa ------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 14:48:38 GMT From: a94cw@alpha2.luton.ac.uk (SO THIS IS HOW IT FEELS TO BE LONELY THIS IS HOW IT FEELS TO BE SMALL...) Subject: top 10 bands Right these are my ten favourite bands, 1. Oasis 2. The Stone roses 3. Gene 4. The Bluetones 5. The Charlatans 6. Pulp 7. Menswe@r 8. Primal Scream 9. Heavy stereo 10. Black Grape ------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 10:07:55 PST From: Ellen Kim Subject: Re: Top 10 Worst Bands On Fri, 1 Dec 1995, Lee W. Minton wrote: >Here's a twist on things `cause all our top tenners are about the same > >things: > > > >1. NKOTB > >2. Celine Dion/Atlanis M etc (all these Cdn crap female singers) > >3. Hooty and the Blowfish > >4. Pearl Jam > >5. > I'm very dissappointed. NKOTB???????????? ANd you're a CHarlatans Fan????? To give you the benefit of the doubt. Did you read the header? It says top 10 WORST bands...started on a bored whim; didn't think people would ponder it. Let's end it now or we can spend here til disco 2000 saying all the bands that are crap. Cheers&sneers, El -------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 09:34:49 -0600 (CST) From: Sproston Green Subject: Re: top 10 bands i cant believe im doing this but here are my 10 fav bands 1. Charlatans 2. The Orb 3. Dinosaur Jr 4. Teenage Fanclub 5. Sonic Youth 6. Blur 7. Pavement 8. Oasis 9. Moby 10. Flaming Lips Top 10 albums of all time 1. R.E.M.- Murmur 2. Charlatans- Up To Our Hips 3. Dinosaur Jr- Youre Living All Over Me 4. Teenage Fanclub- Bandwagonesque 5. Flaming Lips- Transmissions From the Satellite Heart 6. The Orb- Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld 7. Stone Roses- Stone Roses 8. Blur- Modern Life Is Rubbish 9. Pavement- Slanted and Enchanted 10. Sonic Youth- Daydream Nation Also worth considering: Charlie Parker, The Verve, All, The Clash, Oasis, Guided By Voices, Boo Radleys, Stereolab, Spiritualized, Pulp, Chemical Brothers cheers matt ---------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 08:08:56 -0800 (PST) From: Justin Beck Subject: Re: Top 10 Worst Bands HEY PAY ATTENTION. The post was about ****WORST**** bands. Justin ------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 14:21:37 -0500 (EST) From: rvm Subject: Re: top 10 bands On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, Lee W. Minton wrote: > Am I the only current Brit Pop fan who doesn't like the Beatles at all? i'm there with ya, buddy! cheers! rvm ------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 11:18:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Benda Subject: 10 1.) Stone Roses Stone Roses 2.) Tsunami Heart's Tremolo 3.) Red House Painters (1st eponymous) 4.) Digable Planets Blowout Comb 5.) Charlatans Up to Our Hips 6.) Drugstore Drugstore 7.) Felt Ignite the 7 cannons 8.) Nice Apple Pie 9.) Ride Grasshopper (Japan Imp.) 10.) Stereolab Mars Audiac Quintet 10-11 Charlatans Between 10th and 11th Get it? Damn I'm clever. Also new to the list. And "Just Looking" for now, huh, huh, on a roll... ---------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 14:22:32 -0500 (EST) From: Kevin Green Subject: Re: why top 10s... this is a list of bands that I think a lot of charlatans fans might like stone roses happy mondays inspiral carpets northside all of the madchester type stuff new bands like northern uproar are excellent( i only have their debut single and its great) the bluetones are definitely a band everyone should give a shot in my opinion slight return is definitely the best single of 1995 in my opinion and are you blue and bluetonic are great also laterz --------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 12:02:04 +0000 From: "Greg Ipp" Subject: Re: why top 10s... > the bluetones are definitely a band everyone should give a shot in my opinion > slight return is definitely the best single of 1995 in my opinion and are > you blue and bluetonic are great also yeah, they're a great band ... almost as good as: cast ------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 09:50:54 -0800 From: klyakov@ucsd.edu (Lyakov) (Krassi Lyakov) Subject: why top 10s... Hi Lisa and everyone! >I don't understand why everybody sends in his top ten list. >it includes so many of the same bands that I wonder why not everybody >just only mentions the ones that are a bit more odd. Ok. I was the one who started this thread, and I appologize to the people on the list who are tired of getting messages with "top 10" in the subject line. I didn't expect this to get blown out of proportion... All I wanted, was to see what other music Charlatans fans like. By sharing our tastes, I thought that people on the list would know what to listen to and look for in the music store, the next time they're there. Recommendations from fans are a lot more helpful (in my opinion) than any other source of exposure to music - radio, MTV, magazine reviews, etc. So, for those of you who DID enjoy finding out what other bands are liked by Charlies fans, I can compile a list with the bands that had the most entries, and then a list of the ones that had only say 1 or 2, that is - a list of the "more odd" bands. >Well maybe no one agrees but that is the way I see it. >AND........ Why isn't EARTHLING nowhere on the lists??? >I saw them 2 days ago here in Amsterdam and they definetely ruled. See Lisa, that's exactly my point! I have never heard of EARTHLING before, but now I know that it's a band that someone with a similar taste of music likes and I would try to find their disc and listen to it... Peace! ----------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 15:47:22 -0500 (EST) From: rvm Subject: Re: Top 10 Worst Bands On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, Ellen Kim wrote: > Here's a twist on things `cause all our top tenners are about the same > things: > > 1. NKOTB > 2. Celine Dion/Atlanis M etc (all these Cdn crap female singers) > 3. Hooty and the Blowfish > 4. Pearl Jam > 5. cool. another university of waterloo student. incidentally, i don't think pj is all that bad. nkotb on the other hand... cheers! rvm --------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 16:13:25 -0500 (EST) From: rvm Subject: Re: Worst band in the world On Fri, 1 Dec 1995, Lee W. Minton wrote: > Hey I got the two worst bands ever. Even worse than the Beatles. > > 1) Grateful Dead > 2) Phish cheers! rvm ------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 13:43:38 -0800 (PST) From: Justin Beck Subject: Re: Top 10 Worst Bands I hate to perpetuate a thread by asking that a thread be ended, but this is really ridiculous. It's a mailing list--NOT a newsgroup. So little comments about this or that are not appropriate. I'm very close to cancelling my subscription to this list. Don't reply to this thread-- email me if you want to gripe. Justin ----------------------- Date: Fri, 01 Dec 1995 15:05:29 MST From: MERRILEE WOLSEY Subject: re: top 10 top 10 albums: 1. The Verve - A Storm in Heaven 2. Jefferson Airplane - The Worst of Jefferson Airplane 3. The Boo Radleys - Learning to Walk 4. The Stone Roses - Second Coming 5. The Verve - A Northern Soul 6. St.Etienne - So Tough 7. Captain Beefheart - Strictly Personal !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a squid eatin dough in a polyethyline bag is fast and bulbous! YES FINALLY SOMEONE METIONS THE CAPTAIN! ------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Dec 1995 10:58:02 MST From: MERRILEE WOLSEY Subject: RE: Worst band in the world i must agree with your selections... phish is one of the most over rated bands only following nirvana and pearl jam ----------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 18:16:32 PST From: Ellen Kim Subject: let it die... Last posting (I command!) on the whole bloody "top 10 worst" thread. As I thought I nicely explained; it was an accident that it even got sent. 2ndly, I am not responsible if others wanted to add to it. Thought it was a nice diversion from "I luv the Roses, Oasis etc..." but as some people are taking it a lil' too close to heart; let it die. Onto some Charlies' news (more importantly). Don't know if anyone else has mentioned the Dec 5 issue of "Raw". Has a proper top10 list...how to be stars by Tim&co. Hilarious. Will print it up if anyone requests it. ---------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 15:55:44 -0800 (PST) From: Justin Beck Subject: Re: let it die... Please, I'd like to see their funny list! Justin ------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 20:48:22 -0500 From: DavidG6523@aol.com Subject: up to our hips Howdy, Has this ever happened to you... I have one of those jobs where you sit around a lot. So I have a boombox at my desk and listen on headphones most of the day. I was listening to "up to our hips" for about the 100th time. It seems that everytime I get to Patrol or Inside-Looking Out I totally loose concentration on whatever I'm working on and I have to start groovin' to the music. This album is just so awesome!!! Martin and Jon are soooo tight on rhythm, awesome!!! By the way, does anyone out there know what the heck "i never want an easy life..." is all about. It a great, great groove, but I'd like to know what they're trying to say. Any ideas? Keep on groovin', Dave Gardin "you're fuck-all next to me" - the charlatans P.S. I thought the top 10 idea was a good one: I personally found a few bands that I've got to check out now because of your lists -- and it was also a good lesson in crowd psychology ------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 21:35:31 -0500 (EST) From: Rehak Subject: Re: let it die... On Fri, 1 Dec 1995, Justin Beck wrote this about the list in Raw that Ellen Kim mentioned: > Please, I'd like to see their funny list! Yeah, I second that. Send it to us, would ya? --------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 19:52:26 -0800 (PST) From: Justin Beck Subject: Re: up to our hips Sounds just like me except I don't feel comfortable enough yet at my job to listen to music. Ugh. Inside Looking Out is one incredible song. -------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 21:03:13 +0000 From: "Greg Ipp" Subject: Re: Worst bands > > they haven't made as great an album as Ten, but Vitology was the album > > that showed they were willing to take chances on performing different > > styles and to experiment with sounds. At least they were able to risk a > > bit, and this is more than I could say for the Charlatans. I'm not saying hmm... are you SURE this is the right thing to say on the Charlatans mailing list? in any case -- i disagree. and lets end the pearl jam/charlies comparisons here please (because there are none). ------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 95 20:55 PST From: backbeat@IslandNet.com (backbeat@islandnet.com) Subject: Worst bands > > i must agree with your selections... > > > > phish is one of the most over rated bands only following nirvana and pearl jam > > > Stop picking on Nirvana. They may not have had the most complex songs, > but they were a voice to a generation, even though this was more than Kurt > Cobain could handle. They did become huge, and I regret that. I regret > it more so when I read comments like the one above. As for Pearl Jam, > they haven't made as great an album as Ten, but Vitology was the album > that showed they were willing to take chances on performing different > styles and to experiment with sounds. At least they were able to risk a > bit, and this is more than I could say for the Charlatans. I'm not saying > I like Pearl Jam more than them, but I'm willing to say they are able to > stick their necks out more often. As for Nirvana, Bleach is brilliant. > Give it a listen to someday... if you dare. > > Dougie -------------------------- Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 13:09:34 PST From: Ellen Kim Subject: as per requested: Charlies' Top Tenner It's a wee bit long and I'm a wee bit lazy, so I'll type out the first half...something to look forward to on Mon. "So You Wanna Be a Star?" RAW: Dec 5, 1995. Just follow these ten, Charlatans-approved easy steps to success: 1. Do some bastard's motor by putting bricks thru his windscreen when he tells you your band's shit! (Tim, Cardiff, Sept90) 2. Use your mike lead to lasso bottle-throwing member of audience. (Tim, Texas, Mar91) 3. Go on a world-class bender when your single scrapes a miserable 28 in the charts. (Mark, every watering hole in the northern hemisphere, Sept91) 4. Climb on a statue in York's Roman Baths and be ejected for your troubles. Then do self-same thing in Battersea Park and get fined 500 notes for not having learnt the first time. (Tim, Mar92) 5. Have a punch-up between band members after keyboardist blows up organ four nights running. (The lot of `em, Manchester, Jun94) ...next half later. cheers, El ------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 20:09:44 -0500 (EST) From: Ioanna Kotsogiannis Subject: Re: Worst band in the world On Fri, 1 Dec 1995, Lee W. Minton wrote: > Hey I got the two worst bands ever. Even worse than the Beatles. > > 1) Grateful Dead > 2) Phish Lee, once again you are right. I HATE these bands. I've got one more band to add to that list: PIG FACE. Some of my friends are at their concert today...pathetic. -Ioanna Kotsogiannis -------------------------- Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 19:29:37 -0800 From: klyakov@ucsd.edu (Lyakov) (Krassi Lyakov) Subject: Q article Hi all! Check out a short article about the Charlatans in the December issue of Q magazine. Tim talks about the success of the new album, Rob's "driving", and how important for him is to play live for his/their fans... -------------------------- Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 23:34:01 +0100 (MET) From: Trygve Gudmundsen Subject: Charlatans mailinglist Archive http://stud2.misjonshs.no/charlie/charlatans-archive.9511.gz This is not a complete archive though (only from 15 of November) -------------------------- End of The Charlatans Digest #1.03 ********************************** * To subscribe/unsubscribe to the Digest version of the list, send your request to: then-request@lysator.liu.se * The maintainer of the Digest mailing list is chief@lysator.liu.se, and can also be reached at owner-then@lysator.liu.se * The digests can also be found in HTML format at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/then.html, and in ASCII format at ftp://ftp.lysator.liu.se/pub/texts/uxu/then * To subscribe to the Live version of the list, send your subscription request to: Majordomo@stud2.misjonshs.no * All messages to the Live mailing list should be sent to: charlatans@stud2.misjonshs.no * The maintainer of the Live list is eirikg@ifi.uio.no, and can also be reached at charlatans-owner@stud2.misjonshs.no