The Charlatans Digest Mon Mar 4, 1996 Volume 2 : Issue 04 There are 80 messages totalling 1325 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. North America (3) 2. Baker (12) 3. life is....video (4) 4. Another single (3) 5. THE SOUTH! 6. Mark 7. I Nine Wanna Acre Be Court Adored (6) 8. tunes, etc. 9. stir it up! (13) 10. Questions... (14) 11. life is sweet 12. new kid in here 13. a question (4) 14. Mail order (2) 15. Guardian Angel? (7) 16. HELLO & HELP 17. Stone Roses?? (3) 18. Bootleg 19. Dying of jealousy 20. Chem. bros. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 00:26:28 -0500 From: Munj@aol.com Subject: North America What exactly does the latest issue of 109 say about the Charlatans coming back to North America? P.S. Could someone send the address of 109, thanx. Matt ----------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 01:19:50 -0500 (EST) From: Deborah Subject: Re: North America the address for 109 is p.o. box 94, Northwich, cheshire, CW9 5TS england, uk ------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 23:15:35 -0800 From: decker Subject: Baker I never asked, but why did Baker leave, or did they not like him?? Me and my friends want to know....it's a big mystery to us. please tell me :) Decker ---------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 00:10:09 MST From: MERRILEE WOLSEY Subject: RE: North America straight from 109: Tim and Mark have just spent a week in London writing some new material and as I write this the band are writing and rehearsing in Stone Staffordshire and should start recording their 5th album within the next few months if thingo to plan. There has also been some talk od some live dates but when and where has not been decided. ---------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 09:58:49 +0000 (GMT) From: Penfold Subject: Re: Baker On Wed, 21 Feb 1996, decker wrote: > I never asked, > but why did Baker leave, or did they not like him?? > > Me and my friends want to know....it's a big mystery to us. > > please tell me :) I dont know why but his new band are playing at my local pub on friday... They are called solo 70 or something like that.... Daniel -------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 10:14:52 GMT From: campbell colin Subject: Re: life is....video you are right me old mucker ------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 14:55:03 +0000 From: Tobermory Subject: Re: Another single Personally, I think they could do a lot with "Bullet Comes", or has this already been a double A-Side with Crashin' In? Tob ------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 21:58:53 +0000 (GMT) From: "H.Ismail" Subject: Re: Another single Dear Tob, Bullet Comes was a double A side with Just Lookin' and was the second single to be released from the new album. I agree that it's an excellent song but to be honest I do prefer Just Lookin'. The video for Just Lookin' is also the best I've ever seen from the Charlatans. Have you seen it? It was shot at the GLC headquarters in London and is really clever. I reckon Here Comes A Soulsaver would make a great single but they have released enough songs from 'The Charlatans' and it would be fairer to the fans to release something brand new. from HAN P.S. Does anyone out there know whether or not the performance on May 11th 1995 at the London Astoria is going to be released on video? I was there and am dying to see it!! ------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:15:59 -0500 (EST) From: Deborah Subject: Re: Another single it was an a-side with just lookin' -------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:18:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Benjamin B. Graham" Subject: THE SOUTH! CAN SOMEONE TELL ME IF THE CHARLATANS ARE EVER COMING TO ANY OF THE SOUTHERN UNITED STATES? NORTH CAROLINA WANTS THE CHARLATANS. ----------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 19:47:31 MST From: MERRILEE WOLSEY Subject: RE: Baker i'm not exactly sure why baker left but i got the impression from that aricle in September Select, that when the had Flood produce between 10th and 11th the band wasn't happy with it and after the first day with Flood, Baker "...says he's leaving..." ---------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 10:36:07 -0600 (CST) From: traumaboy Subject: RE: Baker At the risk of being redundant (again), I'm pretty sure I've read that Baker left the band because he was uncomfortable with the strain/stress/trappings of being a "rock and roll star." jb --------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 06:47:42 -0500 From: jim lowe Subject: RE: Baker > At the risk of being redundant (again), > > I'm pretty sure I've read that Baker left the band because he was > uncomfortable with the strain/stress/trappings of being a "rock and roll > star." Can we confirm the exact date of his departure? I was under the impression that he left in between the release of "Over Rising" & "Me In Time", but an earlier message indicated that he left during the mixing of "Between 10th & 11th". Is Baker the guitarist on the second album? jim --------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 09:44:51 -0800 (PST) From: Justin Beck Subject: RE: Baker > I was under the impression that he left in between the release of > "Over Rising" & "Me In Time", but an earlier message indicated that he > left during the mixing of "Between 10th & 11th". Is Baker the guitarist > on the second album? Nope, it's Mark Collins all the way. ----------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 08:03:38 -0500 From: jim lowe Subject: RE: Baker > > left during the mixing of "Between 10th & 11th". Is Baker the guitarist > > on the second album? > > Nope, it's Mark Collins all the way. Thanks...I thought that I was losing my mind! :-) Although the subject of Mr. Baker often comes up, we never seem to discuss what an excellent job Mark Collins did when he stepped in. In concert, he can play the Baker songs without problem...and his work (especially on the most recent album) has matured significantly as the band has progressed. I honestly think that the addition of Mark Collins ensured the viability of the band and prevented them from drifting into oblivion ala so many other Madchester bands. jim ---------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 19:47:03 +0000 (GMT) From: "H.Ismail" Subject: Mark I agree with everyone who has written in support of Mark. I think he brought a new dimension to the sound of the band and has helped them to grow. I'm glad other members of the group are getting recognition for their parts in The Charlatans. I do feel that Tim always being in the limelight does make some people forget that there aree FIVE people in the band. I love Tim and his lyrics but respect to the others too. What do you think?? ----------------------- Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 16:29:49 -0600 (CST) From: traumaboy Subject: RE: Baker I agree; from the opening riff of "Don't want to see the sights," Collins has provided the group with a much more expansive, grittier guitar sound. jb ------------------------------- Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 16:15:36 -0800 From: klyakov@ucsd.edu (Lyakov) (Krassi Lyakov) Subject: I Nine Wanna Acre Be Court Adored Hey, hey, hey! Has anyone played the beginning of Nine Acre Court, and thought that the intro_bassline to I Wanna Be Adored could go really well with it? Any thoughts? I think that IF the chanting wasn't there, the background noise (random street sounds and aproaching bus-noise) is very similar to the noise in the beginning of I Wanna Be Adored....! What happened to me was, I had both The Stone Roses and the Charlatans albums (note: both self-titled albums) together with 3 others in my five disc CD player, and when the intro to Nine Acre Court came on, I was thinking the bass to Adored could begin any second...Hey, I am not trying to say they are the same in any way, so don't jump on me, alright!? They are completely diferent songs, I know... Just a thought...I guess I listen too much (which never hurts) to the Charlies and the Roses (the two greatest bands in the world) Phew! Later... "I can't even be bothered, energy breaks me down..." Krassi ---------------------------- Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 16:15:25 -0800 From: klyakov@ucsd.edu (Lyakov) (Krassi Lyakov) Subject: Re: tunes, etc. Hello all! >Anybody out there feel that Stir It Up was just a track waiting to be made a >single all its own? Absolutelly!!! One of my top five favorite Charlatans songs! Amazing! Really groovy and moving! Anyone heard/seen it live? "I can't even be bothered, energy breaks me down..." Krassi -------------------------- Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 16:20:44 +0000 (GMT) From: "H.Ismail" Subject: stir it up! I agree that Stir It Up could have been a single in it's own right and is one of the best songs by the band. I reckon that it's nice that one of their finest moments will only be experienced by real fans. I'm not sure about the Nine Acre Court/I wanna be adored theory but plan to check it out immediately, so I'll get back to you once I've researched it. Han ------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 11:05:25 PST From: Robert Harrison Subject: RE: Baker On Fri, 23 Feb 1996 09:44:51 -0800 (PST) Justin Beck wrote: > > I was under the impression that he left in between the release of > > "Over Rising" & "Me In Time", but an earlier message indicated that he > > left during the mixing of "Between 10th & 11th". Is Baker the guitarist > > on the second album? > > Nope, it's Mark Collins all the way. Are you sure ? Iam inclined to believe that old Marky boy left during the mixing of Between 10th and 11th but I could be wrong . -------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 11:11:26 PST From: Robert Harrison Subject: Re: life is....video On Thu, 22 Feb 1996 21:53:56 -0800 (PST) Justin Beck wrote: > > Andy Fraire wrote: > > > > > > Has anyone see the Chemical Brothers' "Life is Sweet" video on 120 > > > minutes?(to those in the states). > > > I was amazed to see that MTV would play the Chemical Brothers, however i > > > had heard the music used in promos. > > > -andf@as.ucsb.edu > > > > > I saw it. I had never seen the Chemical Brothers before - the lead > > singer looked very familiar. I liked the song. I believe there to be no lead singer in the Chemical Brothers as the two of them both mix and when playing live (Blackpool Empresss ballroom - Supporting The Prodigy) they had no vocalist. P.S. Do check the album Exit Planet Dust as it has some sweet music on it especially Life Is Sweet. --------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 03:41:59 -0500 From: jim lowe Subject: Re: life is....video > > > I saw it. I had never seen the Chemical Brothers before - the lead > > > singer looked very familiar. I liked the song. > > I believe there to be no lead singer in the Chemical Brothers as the > two of them both mix and when playing live (Blackpool Empresss ballroom > - Supporting The Prodigy) they had no vocalist. > > P.S. Do check the album Exit Planet Dust as it has some sweet music > on it especially Life Is Sweet. OKAY...LET'S STOP THIS RIGHT HERE! The comment about the lead singer looking familiar was a joke... The person providing the vocals for "Life is Sweet" is Tim Burgess...he is also in the video. This is a charlatans list...does everyone get the joke? :-) jim -------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 14:36:24 +0000 (GMT) From: "H.Ismail" Subject: Questions... I'm not sure if I got through last time so I'll write my questions again just in case. 1. What exactly does Tim say just before "Tell Everyone"? All I can make out is "This one's for..." 2. Has anyone seen "The Wish", the film that the Charlatans did the soundtrack for? If so, what was it like? That's all for now. If anyone would like to email me for a chat my address is hi195@soton.ac.uk You can write in English or German and it would be cool to speak to some other fans. Han. P.S. I reckon Jon left during the mixing of Between 10th and 11th too and it's the pictures of Mark in the C.D. which are making people think otherwise. ------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 08:10:14 -0800 (PST) From: Justin Beck Subject: RE: Baker On Mon, 26 Feb 1996, Robert Harrison wrote: >>>> I was under the impression that he left in between the release of >>>> "Over Rising" & "Me In Time", but an earlier message indicated that he >>>> left during the mixing of "Between 10th & 11th". Is Baker the guitarist >>>> on the second album? >>> >>> Nope, it's Mark Collins all the way. >> >> Are you sure ? Iam inclined to believe that old Marky boy left during >> the mixing of Between 10th and 11th but I could be wrong. If Mark left during the mixing of Betw. 10th & 11th, how is it that he's in the band now??? --------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 16:53:20 +0000 (GMT) From: "SC. Barrie" Subject: life is sweet It seems from the tone of a few recent letters that not everyone has clocked on to the fact that Tim Burgess is in the Life is Sweet video? He apparently recorded the vocals in one day after four-pack of Boddingtons bitter..... ---------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 17:28:06 PST From: Simon Amor Subject: Re: Questions... >P.S. I reckon Jon left during the mixing of Between 10th and 11th too and it's >the pictures of Mark in the C.D. which are making people think otherwise. I don`t suppose anyone out there has a copy of "The Only One I Know" on either CD or 12" that they would be willing to sell for a reasonable price? Cheers PS. I still think that Baker left before the recording of Between 10th and 11th, If anyone out there knows for definite then PLEASE put us all right. -------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 08:02:16 -0500 From: jim lowe Subject: Re: Questions... > I don`t suppose anyone out there has a copy of "The Only One I Know" on > either CD or 12" that they would be willing to sell for a reasonable price? I have an extra copy of the European release of the CD. I'd prefer to trade, but will sell if the "reasonable price" is right! :-) jim ------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:56:34 -0800 From: klyakov@ucsd.edu (Lyakov) (Krassi Lyakov) Subject: Re: I Nine Wanna Acre Be Court Adored Han, and everyone... >I'm not sure about the Nine Acre Court/I wanna be adored theory but plan to >check it out immediately, so I'll get back to you once I've researched it. Please, don't take it seriously! I was just caught by that idea for a moment when I was listening to my CDs...No theory, really...Just a side note, I guess...A cool thing I might try is play the bass line to Adored along with the intro to Nine Acre Court...But, hey, I wasn't saying the two songs were in any way similar, or whatever... Peace ------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 20:07:20 +0000 From: LEANNE MCQUILLAN <9524554@srv0.law.ed.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Questions... I was wondering how much "The Only One I know" CD single is worth? Anything? Cheers Leanne ---------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 20:16:44 -0500 (EST) From: kclair@sas.upenn.edu (Kristina Clair) Subject: Re: life is....video jim lowe wrote: > > > > > I saw it. I had never seen the Chemical Brothers before - the lead > > > > singer looked very familiar. I liked the song. > > > > > > OKAY...LET'S STOP THIS RIGHT HERE! > > The comment about the lead singer looking familiar was a joke... actually, I wrote that he looked familiar with no knowledge that it was Tim Burgess. I was honestly asking. I usually don't pay much attention to what bands look like, sorry. --------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 20:18:43 -0500 (EST) From: kclair@sas.upenn.edu (Kristina Clair) Subject: Re: Questions... H.Ismail wrote: >I'm not sure if I got through last time so I'll write my questions again just >in case. > >1. What exactly does Tim say just before "Tell Everyone"? All I can make out is >"This one's for..." you should check out a charlatans web page that prints the lyrics. If you don't have the site address, then I can get one for you. ------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 00:35:24 -0600 (CST) From: traumaboy Subject: RE: Baker I sent a message but I'm not sure that it made it to the list. In a Q magazine interview from late last year, Mark Collins said that he joined the band right after "Me In Time" went into the British charts, which would be well before 10th and 11th was finished. Mark Collins gets a co-writing credit on 6 of the 10 songs on Between 10th and 11th; Baker is not credited at all. john ------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 22:34:11 -0800 (PST) From: 5858@connectnet.com (jeff F) Subject: Re: Questions... >> I don`t suppose anyone out there has a copy of "The Only One I >Know" on either CD >> or 12" that they would be willing to sell for a reasonable price? > >I have an extra copy of the European release of the CD. I'd prefer to >trade, but will sell if the "reasonable price" is right! :-) hi jim, i have the us cd and am willing to sell it for $8, let me know. you can e-mail me at 5858@connectnet.com jeff ----------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 10:50:15 -0500 (EST) From: Deborah Subject: Re: Questions... jeff $8 for the us copy? that is it? don't people realise how rare a copy of the only one single is. it's been deleted and absolutely impossible to find. noone even carries it anymore!!!!! ------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 09:09:22 -0800 (PST) From: Justin Beck Subject: Re: Questions... I see it in the stores occasionally. Tower Records even. ---------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 11:17:01 +0100 From: Eirik Gudmundsen Subject: Re: Baker Hi! I think I can tell you for sure that John Baker left BEFORE the making of 10th&11th. When John left, it was said that the album was recorded except from the guitarparts, but I guess they'd just played some demoes for the new album (Can't Even Be Bothered was played by John Baker in concert). After John left the band, there was a long brake before the Me.In time was released. Mark Collins was a part of the band already then. Then Flood came into the picture, and he hared Me. In Time, so they started to change a few things before they released Between 10th & 11th which has very little to do with John Baker. Mark played everything on that album. The last thing John was apart of was Over rising! Cheers! ----------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 14:51:05 -0500 (EST) From: Deborah Subject: Re: Questions... justin are you sure? when i was in england at christmas my friend askedme to get her a copy and every record shop, including tower had it as deleted on their computers. i went to every record shop i saw, including the big 3 in london and they had the same information. deleted from distributor. ------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 12:04:41 -0800 (PST) From: Justin Beck Subject: Re: Questions... Yep, I'm sure! But who knows what particular stores have laying around for sale. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 18:21:19 -0800 From: Hatuey Aboy Subject: Re: Questions... Deborah wrote: > jeff $8 for the us copy? that is it? don't people realise how rare a > copy of the only one single is. it's been deleted and absolutely > impossible to find. noone even carries it anymore!!!!! > > "IMAGINE IT'S A FILM AND YOU'RE THE STAR"no more mail !!!! ------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 19:19:46 -0800 (PST) From: 5858@connectnet.com (jeff F) Subject: Re: Questions... >jeff $8 for the us copy? that is it? don't people realise how rare a >copy of the only one single is. it's been deleted and absolutely >impossible to find. noone even carries it anymore!!!!! i just want a fair price. what do you think its worth??? jeff ----------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 21:51:39 -0500 From: Finalpoet@aol.com Subject: Re: stir it up! i'm sorry, but, here in nashville, tennessee, it's really hard to keep up with new charla-boys material....where is stir it up located? ----------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 21:53:27 -0500 From: Finalpoet@aol.com Subject: Re: I Nine Wanna Acre Be Court Adored i just wanted to put my opinion in on your faves....charlatans and shed seven are the two best! ------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 96 03:12:55 -0500 (EST) From: cstein@sava.gulfnet.com (Chris Steinmetz) Subject: Re: stir it up! Hey Y'all- >i'm sorry, but, here in nashville, tennessee, it's really hard to keep up >with new charla-boys material....where is stir it up located? IT'S ON THE JESUS HAIRDO SINGLE Question: Anyone found any good CD boots from shows including stuff from the latest album? If so: a. Where can Iget one? b. How much? c. Venue? d. Quality? e. length? You can tell me via private e-mail to avoid clogging everyone's computer(s) Thanks Peace, Chris ------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 22:33:25 -0500 From: Finalpoet@aol.com Subject: Re: Questions... hey you lovelies!.......does anyone have a copy of "diversion" that they would like to sell?......i've got three versions of the 'only one i know' single.....two versions are the 4-song ep's, one on cd, the other on 12"......plus, i've got the 2-song u.s. promo of the single.....also, i'm looking for the indian rope single, sproston green single, some more of those darn 'up to our hips' postcards, and........the crashin in single......someone come to my rescue!..........'if you happen to die, i won't be there!".... --------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 22:52:31 -0500 From: Finalpoet@aol.com Subject: Re: stir it up! the only boot leg i have is hot licks.....which has materail from somefriendly, overrising, and between 10th and 11th.....see ya! ---------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 23:54:01 -0500 From: HEISEI6692@aol.com Subject: new kid in here Damn! I thought I was the only Charlies fan left in America. Or one of the last ones. Here in Tucson we don't get much britpop albums and to find a Charlies single I don't have (not that I have a lot) is, well about once a year. Does anybody know of a good place to mail order? I'm especially looking for Japanese imports or bootlegs (besides Hotlicks). Cheers! ----------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 09:26:32 +0100 (BST) From: "T.E. McGrath" Subject: Re: I Nine Wanna Acre Be Court Adored > i just wanted to put my opinion in on your faves....charlatans and shed seven > are the two best! comon man, yer the charlies, and the sheds are good bands, but the ultimate is THE STONE ROSES, THE MESSIAH IS ALIVE AND GROOVES HARDER TO THE ROSES! ---------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 10:55:34 GMT From: MFMEX5MH Subject: Re: I Nine Wanna Acre Be Court Adored > Has anyone played the beginning of Nine Acre Court, and thought that >the intro_bassline to I Wanna Be Adored could go really well with it? Yes, I have often thought that myself... I saw the Chemical Brothers about a month ago and they didn't play "Life Is Sweet" but they did play "Nine Acre Court" with a slippery backbeat and it was brilliant. Just thought I'd mention it, since people were discussing the Bros. Does anyone know if there's a recording available of "Nine Acre Court" with the Chemical Brothers? Melinda (taking a break from her steady diet of the Bluetones) ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 11:34:52 +0000 From: Alan Wito Subject: a question Hello everyone Can someoen tell me where i can get hold of the lyrics for the Album 'Up To Our Hips'? I would be grateful for any info Alan --------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 12:51:58 PST From: liz baynton Subject: Re: Questions... On Mon, 26 Feb 1996 20:07:20 +0000 LEANNE MCQUILLAN wrote: > I was wondering how much "The Only One I know" CD single is worth? > Anything? > Cheers Leanne It`s worth about six quid, as is Indian Rope. Simon --------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Feb 96 08:25:18 -0600 From: Brett Matthew Haydin (Bretter) Subject: Mail order Hello out there! Along with the other new kids out there, I go to school in a place that carries only the dirty grunge they now call alternative. But I used to get 109 all the time and I recall that there was some add for ordering all sorts of nifty charlatans gear (including the coveted singles). Now, school is tight, I have since passed that catalog on to others. But I also don't have my back issues up here. Does anybody have that address (I think it came from Omega records in England cos I got their sticker with it) and if you do, post it so everybody can get there hands on it. I myself got a cool long sleeve orange tour tee out of it. Oh, and the Only One That I Know is readily available at record conventions. I have never seen it go for more that $12, and usually about $10. I have spent hundreds of dollars on the single for the charlatans, suede, james, stone roses... Gosh, I really have an expensive hobby! ------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 13:43:34 +0100 (BST) From: "T.E. McGrath" Subject: Re: a question > Hello everyone > > Can someoen tell me where i can get hold of the lyrics for the Album > 'Up To Our Hips'? > > I would be grateful for any info some of the lyrics where in the fanzine 109,the fanzine is free and the address is in the sleeves of the album.you could also try the net page BACKROOM WINDOW". if you can't finnd the site,drop us a line. TIM MCGRATH. ------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 15:39:47 +0000 (GMT) From: "SC. Barrie" Subject: Re: stir it up! > the only boot leg i have is hot licks.....which has materail from > somefriendly, overrising, and between 10th and 11th.....see ya! Whoever has this bootleg, I would be willing to buy it for a large sum of money. Good price paid.......... contact me at sb4894@bristol.ac.uk ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 20:38:13 -0500 From: HEISEI6692@aol.com Subject: Guardian Angel? Has anyone heard of a Charlies record entitled "Guardian Angel"? It's a live album with songs from "Some Friendly". Also does anyone have any old copies of 109? I'd like to see what it looks like. Cheers --------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 09:14:39 +0000 From: Jason New Subject: Re: Guardian Angel? Hello there, I have "Guardian Angel" and it's excellent. I prefer it to the isolation live album. Jason ------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Feb 96 4:58 EST From: Robert_Kenny@vos.stratus.com Subject: RE: Guardian Angel? I dont know my friend. Check out the internet, and search for some pages of lyrics. Oh and if anyone has'nt checked out the documents on the stone roses, check out the lyrics pages, there are lyrics for nearly all their songs.... Rob. -------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 10:21:12 GMT From: BARRY MAY Subject: HELLO & HELP Greetings, fellow Charlies fans ! I'm Bez ( not the Rev. Black Bez, obviously, but a pretty close approximation. ) I need help ! At the moment, my music collection is pretty sad and ill-looking, and hence, I wish to expand it. I'm looking for anything by Burgess & the boys, ( apart from the 4 albums, The only one, and Just lookin' singles. ) preferably on CD. I will pay any reasonable asking prices. Please reply ( to my personal address MAYBSJ@Cardiff.ac.uk so's not to clutter up everyone else's mail. ) Cheers. ------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 15:26:17 +0100 From: Eirik Gudmundsen Subject: Re: a question > Hello everyone > > Can someoen tell me where i can get hold of the lyrics for the Album > 'Up To Our Hips'? > > I would be grateful for any info Hi! I've got nearly all the lyrics for Up To Our Hips. It isn't the official lyrics, but it's a mix of what some fans on this list, me, and a Japanese booklet have managed to get together. It will be on the BackRoomWindow soon (I've been saying that about the lyrics for a couple of months, but I think I am really going to put it in this time!) bye, ---------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 14:23:42 +0000 (GMT) From: "H.Ismail" Subject: Stone Roses?? I can't believe that someone has written into the CHARLATANS' mailing list saying that The Stone Roses are better!!! Sort it out. Respect to John Squire but they haven't got a patch on our lads AND Ian Brown can't sing live. Han ---------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 14:41:47 +0100 (BST) From: "T.E. McGrath" Subject: Re: stir it up! >> the only boot leg i have is hot licks.....which has materail from >> somefriendly, overrising, and between 10th and 11th.....see ya! > Whoever has this bootleg, I would be willing to buy it for a large sum of > money. Good price paid.......... > contact me at sb4894@bristol.ac.uk I AM NOT SURE IF HOT LICKS IS WORTH MUCH SO DON'T SPLASH OUT TO MUCH.WHEN I WET TO AMSTERDAM, TO WATCH THE CHARLIES ABOUT A 2YRS AGO ,HOT LICKS WAS IN HMV ,IT COST ABOUT stlg9.THE BOOTLEG DOES NOT CONTAIN ANY SONGS AN AVERAGE FAN WON'T HAVE ANYWAY. TIM MCGRATH ------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 17:02:09 GMT From: Mr Silly Subject: Re: a question Look on any of the Charly pages on the information superhighway - try the complete British Indie Index - many more bands than just Charleys. Mr S ------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 22:43:09 +0000 (GMT) From: "SC. Barrie" Subject: Re: stir it up! Hi mate! Thanks for the advice about Hot Licks. I only want it because I'm an obsessed fan, but I'll now try not to get ripped off. Thanks again Scott ---------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Mar 96 08:43:48 JST From: r_smith@Koyosha.CO.JP (hiroko takeda) Subject: Re: Stone Roses?? I think so too. I like you:) -------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Feb 96 23:54:12 -0500 (EST) From: cstein@sava.gulfnet.com (Chris Steinmetz) Subject: Re: Guardian Angel? Hey! What is "Guardian Angel"? Peace, Chris ------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 19:28:36 -0500 From: HEISEI6692@aol.com Subject: Re: Guardian Angel? Guardian Angels? Well it's (or mine is) a live record. I haven't heard isolation yet, but it does make me want to see the Charlies all the more. (They don't come to Arizona) its contents look like this: (bbc in concert 1/12/90) The only one I know You're not very well I Can't even be bothered Flower Ocean Rising then SIDE B Indian Rope (Peel Session, June 90) You Can talk to me Polar Bear Then Always in Mind (London National Ballroom, Kilburn, 8/11/90) Ya gotta love it it's got Polar Bear on it. Cheers! Travis --------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Mar 96 00:15:06 -0500 (EST) From: cstein@sava.gulfnet.com (Chris Steinmetz) Subject: Re: Stone Roses?? HEY NOW! Just like the Beatles and Stones in the 60s, everyone, the Roses and Charlies are apples and oranges. So quit viping and make fruit salad! Peace, Chris -------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 19:44:04 -0500 From: Rainbow507@aol.com Subject: Re: I Nine Wanna Acre Be Court Adored sweet-- whoever said that they like shed 7... i agree!! they're great... ------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 19:18:11 MST From: MERRILEE WOLSEY Subject: Re: Guardian Angel? where can i get guardian angels? -------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 20:42:35 -0600 (MDT) From: MILLER_MELANI_S Subject: Re: stir it up! Hey... like..... you've all been a mega audiance! apart from 'life is sweet' and 'time for livin' does anyone know of any other tim burgess/chemical brothers stuff?? seeya, Phil. ---------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 00:25:04 -0500 From: SkEiht@aol.com Subject: Re: Guardian Angel? Finally, some respect for Polar Bear. Lovely song the lot of you. --------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 21:56:52 +0000 From: Andy Fraire Subject: Re: stir it up! Does the "Patrol" remix count??? -andy ------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 02:05:38 -0500 From: derek_f@alcor.concordia.ca (Derek Fong) Subject: Re: stir it up! >Hey... like..... you've all been a mega audiance! > >apart from 'life is sweet' and 'time for livin' does anyone know of any >other tim burgess/chemical brothers stuff?? Phil, Well, there's also Toothache and a remix of Nine Acre Court. The Charlatans released "The Charlatans UK v. The Chemical Brothers," which contains three remixes of Toothache (Toothache Chemical Risk Mix, Chemical Risk Dub and Instrumental Mix) and Nine Acre Dust (remix of Nine Acre Court). --------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 09:46:43 +0000 From: LEANNE MCQUILLAN <9524554@srv0.law.ed.ac.uk> Subject: Bootleg I have a bootleg called "They don't want to see the sights" It says on the box that it was recorded in 1994 on tour but it has no "Up to our hips" material.It is all earlier stuff and there is a really good version of "Sproston Green" and "I can't even be bothered" Leanne --------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 09:52:36 +0000 (GMT) From: "SC. Barrie" Subject: Dying of jealousy > Guardian Angels? Well it's (or mine is) a live record. I haven't heard > isolation yet, but it does make me want to see the Charlies all the more. > (They don't come to Arizona) its contents look like this: > (bbc in concert 1/12/90) > The only one I know > You're not very well > I Can't even be bothered > Flower > Ocean Rising > then > SIDE B > Indian Rope > (Peel Session, June 90) > You Can talk to me > Polar Bear > Then > Always in Mind > (London National Ballroom, Kilburn, 8/11/90) > > Ya gotta love it it's got Polar Bear on it. > Cheers! Hi mate! I'm dying of jealousy now that you've shown me the contents. What is Ocean Rising and Always in Mind????? Please, please and double please can you get this album for me? As you can tell, I'm a completely obsessive fan. I can get hold of Hot Licks from a guy called Chris on the mailing list, but he wants Stone Roses in return which I'm not sure where to get, and I don't think a monetary bribe will make him part with it.... Yours longingly Scott... --------------------------- Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 11:59:15 +0100 From: Eirik Gudmundsen Subject: Re: Mail order Hi All! If you are interrested in getting a lot of Charlatans merchandise, I'd recommand you writing to this address: Nic Sheen C/o Omega Music 2 Witton Walk Northwich Cheshire CW9 5RQ ENGLAND You must enclose a large stamped addressed envelope, or for us living outside the UK, just send 2x International reply coupons! IF some of you don't know how to get 109, then I'll put up that address as well: 109 PO BOX 94 Northwich Cheshire CW9 5TS ENGLAND You must send a large stamped addressed envelope, or if living outside England, send 3x International reply coupons. The next issue to come out is issue 16, but if you want some of the other issues as well, just send more IR Coupons and ask for it in the letter. Note that some of the issues are sold out! Cheers, ----------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 14:27:07 +0000 (GMT) From: "H.Ismail" Subject: Chem. bros. The Charlatans and the Chemical Brothers have done quite a lot together. It started when the Dust Brothers (as the Chems were then known) remixed Patrol for the Jesus Hairdo single. Since then they've done Life Is Sweet and Time For Livin' as you know. I also managed to get my hands on a US import called The Charlatans vs The Chemical Brothers which has four remixes from the latest album including Toothache... It's worth shelling out for. Han --------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 15:34:09 +0000 (GMT) From: Ben Subject: Re: stir it up! On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, Derek Fong wrote: > >Hey... like..... you've all been a mega audiance! > > > >apart from 'life is sweet' and 'time for livin' does anyone know of any > >other tim burgess/chemical brothers stuff?? > > > >seeya, > > Phil. > > Phil, > > Well, there's also Toothache and a remix of Nine Acre Court. The > Charlatans released "The Charlatans UK v. The Chemical Brothers," which > contains three remixes of Toothache (Toothache Chemical Risk Mix, Chemical > Risk Dub and Instrumental Mix) and Nine Acre Dust (remix of Nine Acre > Court). There is also a mix of one of the teacks off Up to Our Hips on Jesus Hairdo when the Chemical Brothers were still the Dust Brothers. Oh, and someone wrote that the Stone Roses and The Charlatans were like apples and oranges, or something. Well, IMHO "Your Skies are Mine" bears a striking resemblance to "Your Star Will Shine", Track 2 (i think it is) off of some friendly sounds a bit like "She Bangs the Drums", but it's not all one way as the version of "Tightrope" on the "Crimson Tonight" ep sounds like "Just When You're Thinkin' Things Over". Still, both bands are ace so it doesn't matter. Ben ------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 08:09:38 -0800 (PST) From: Justin Beck Subject: Re: stir it up! There's a U.S.-only CD called The Charlatans vs. The Chemical Brothers, with a Nine Acre Court remix, a couple of Toothache remixes, and something else (something from Exit P. D.) that I can't remember at the moment. It's pretty good--and cheap. ------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 11:47:03 -0500 (EST) From: Deborah Subject: Re: stir it up! isn't there a disck called the charlatans vs. the chemicals brothers. well something like that. i believe each band mixes two songs of the other. -------------------------- End of The Charlatans Digest #2.04 ********************************** * To subscribe/unsubscribe to the Digest version of the list, send your request to: then-request@lysator.liu.se * The maintainer of the Digest mailing list is chief@lysator.liu.se, and can also be reached at owner-then@lysator.liu.se * The digests can also be found in HTML format at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/then.html, and in ASCII format at ftp://ftp.lysator.liu.se/pub/texts/uxu/then * To subscribe to the Live version of the list, send your subscription request to: Majordomo@stud2.misjonshs.no * All messages to the Live mailing list should be sent to: charlatans@stud2.misjonshs.no * The maintainer of the Live list is eirikg@ifi.uio.no, and can also be reached at charlatans-owner@stud2.misjonshs.no